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GoNyGoNyGo
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1/8/2004  10:11 PM
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Posted by GoNyGoNyGo:
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GONY THE KNICKS ARE IN DISSARAY BECAUSE OF THE TIMING OF THE LATEST TRADE, Detroit just whooped the rockets last night what are you talking about.
NY LOST 2 games before the trade. Do you remember Chicago?

The team has been in disarray ALL YEAR!

Frank didn't start at the point position in Chicago silly, that was the chemistry I have been telling you about. Frank kept this team focused at the pg position , how soon you forget.
Oh so now you were for playing the YOUNF Frank Williams. Early in the season, it was that the vets had to play to make the playoffs. Now it is that FWILL has to play which is it. Hardcore and TKF and I and others said all along, play the young kids all the time!

Ass for injuries they are a part of the game. Since taking over for JVg, Chaney has GOTTEN EVERY benefit of the doubt. NY won games with FWILL not injured and sitting the whole game, you fool. They won games with Houston and KVH out. They lost because they were not prepared to play.
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1/8/2004  10:13 PM
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I got my Samosa's and 2 Liters of coke sitting right next to me. I hope is Stephon's breaks Yao's ankles like he did last year in Phoenix. Anyone remember that? This game is seriously going to be one for History. CANT WAIT!! CANNOT FREAKING WAIT!!

[Edited by - Silverfuel on 01/08/2004 18:55:33]
samosas?
dont knock samosas... indian dough surrounding a delicious blend of spices and vegetables (frequently potatos, green peas, chickpeas).

veritable samosa commercial. nice.
werd im not knocking them im indian i love samosas, i was gonna say they're the shiznit but wanted to make sure we were talking about the same thing lol
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1/8/2004  10:13 PM
Why is it that all the announcers say how difficult it is for a coach to try and coach when players are out for periods of time , then two trades happen within a week and you want these guys to play like they have been together all season. Stevie franchise said he knows how hard it is to learn how to play with new players and that it will take time. And you got non-athletic postas on here saying we should play with coehesion 1 freakin day after a blockbuster trade. ROFLMAO spilling my popcorn. The only one who won on the knicks tonight is Dolan$$$$$$$
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1/8/2004  10:13 PM
We can't afford to wait another week to fire him. We have a terrible record I don't care how bad the east is..if we fall 10+ games under .500 Red Auerbach won't say us!!
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1/8/2004  10:14 PM
Posted by gunsnewing:

you guys are seriously taking Playa too seriously. Can't you see through him?

Don't pay attention to what he says.
Yea man. You are right. I'll try and not argue with him anymore. Especially when he says chemistry is the reason we cannot beat the Rockets and Nets and is the reason we beat Miami, Orlando and Memphis.

Canadian: JVG isn't Top5. The way I see it:
1) Phil Jackson 2) Rick Adelman 3) Greg Popavich 4) Larry Brown 5) Rick Carlisle or Don Nelson are the Top5. Thats just my opinion.
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1/8/2004  10:19 PM
i wouldnt put Phill number 1. how has he been doing without Shaq? 0-4
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1/8/2004  10:19 PM
Posted by nyballer:

werd im not knocking them im indian i love samosas, i was gonna say they're the shiznit but wanted to make sure we were talking about the same thing lol
Shiznit bro. Samosas be shiznit. To think I started out the night with Samosa's and Coke and i'm ending it with Bottled Water instead of rum! I'm not going to a Knick game till they hit .500! This is not fair to the knick fans. atleast I dont root for the Mets. That would really suck!
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1/8/2004  10:20 PM
Posted by gunsnewing:

you guys are seriously taking Playa too seriously. Can't you see through him? He'll obvisiously go against the grain no matter what because he is an attention whore. Just ignore him...he's the only one with that mind set here so don't pay attention to what he says.

You're a media hoe Guns, they fed you Starbury and you cut off your own head and didn't stop to actually think for yourself. This trade was good for the fans but not for chemistry man. Wake up NY , when they fire chaney you will see the same uncertaintey until they get use to each other.
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1/8/2004  10:21 PM
Posted by hDavis:

i wouldnt put Phill number 1. how has he been doing without Shaq? 0-4
But he has earned it to be in Top5. I was just ranking the 5 coaches before Van Gundy thats all. Chaney's schemes got exposed and exploited on both ends by a non-top5 coach.
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1/8/2004  10:25 PM
Posted by playa2:
Posted by gunsnewing:

you guys are seriously taking Playa too seriously. Can't you see through him? He'll obvisiously go against the grain no matter what because he is an attention whore. Just ignore him...he's the only one with that mind set here so don't pay attention to what he says.

You're a media hoe Guns, they fed you Starbury and you cut off your own head and didn't stop to actually think for yourself. This trade was good for the fans but not for chemistry man. Wake up NY , when they fire chaney you will see the same uncertaintey until they get use to each other.

--We problably will but I can guarantee you that we will show more fire and respect towards our coach. And we'll get way more out of our top players.
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1/8/2004  10:30 PM
Posted by Silverfuel:
Posted by gunsnewing:

you guys are seriously taking Playa too seriously. Can't you see through him?

Don't pay attention to what he says.
Yea man. You are right. I'll try and not argue with him anymore. Especially when he says chemistry is the reason we cannot beat the Rockets and Nets and is the reason we beat Miami, Orlando and Memphis.

Canadian: JVG isn't Top5. The way I see it:
1) Phil Jackson 2) Rick Adelman 3) Greg Popavich 4) Larry Brown 5) Rick Carlisle or Don Nelson are the Top5. Thats just my opinion.
I cannot put Calrisle ahead of JVG. He has never even gotten tot he finals. Nelson is a yes, but barely...He has never gotten to the finals. If you say, Nelson because of his 1000 or so wins, then ok, but JVG is next..not Carlisle. Another good coach is Flip Saunders and JERRY SLOAN is on that list ahead of Nelson. He is a VERY GOOD COACH.
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1/8/2004  10:30 PM
Posted by gunsnewing:

We problably will but I can guarantee you that we will show more fire and respect towards our coach. And we'll get way more out of our top players.
Guns: Now you are taking playa seriously and trying to convince him! Take your own advice and ignore. Attention whores need attention whichever way they can get them. Classic sign is personal insults such as "Media hoe".
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1/8/2004  10:31 PM
So why are you blaming coaching, the announcers(kerr-fratello) understand, the players understand(steve francis)but you guys as fans are TOO impatient.
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1/8/2004  10:33 PM
That's true..good point man. What's ridiculous is the fact that he's jumping on Marbury after only 2 games when we were 14-21 and in a losing streak before we got him.

[Edited by - gunsnewing on 01/09/2004 13:58:11]
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1/8/2004  10:33 PM
GoNy: Excellent point! I had completely forgotten about Jerry Sloan who definately belongs in the Top5. I didn't want to say Flip because he has had KG and hasnt done much but I like him a lot too. Do u think Byron Scott is better? I really hate him but living in NJ I have to hear "Byron Scott is better than JVG" all the time.
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1/8/2004  10:35 PM
Posted by playa2:

So why are you blaming coaching, the announcers(kerr-fratello) understand, the players understand(steve francis)but you guys as fans are TOO impatient.
LOL! You are the same fool telling us how te trade ruined the chemistry! Which is it? Should you wait before you criticize? Or should you criticize and then say wait? Such a second hander you are.

NY is on a 5 game home stand, now 0-1 and 4 losses in a row. I will bet a 2-3 stand will not be acceptable to Isiah.
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1/8/2004  10:37 PM
Posted by Silverfuel:

GoNy: Excellent point! I had completely forgotten about Jerry Sloan who definately belongs in the Top5. I didn't want to say Flip because he has had KG and hasnt done much but I like him a lot too. Do u think Byron Scott is better? I really hate him but living in NJ I have to hear "Byron Scott is better than JVG" all the time.
i don't think Byron is the top 15. He has Kidd. Without Kidd, he would have been fired by now. I like Isiah as a coach better than Byron. And I did not like Isiah as a coach.

By the way, Spree is lighting up Portland right now. You think Isiah would have traded him for KVH? NO WAY. Can you imagine Spree and Stephon!
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1/8/2004  11:26 PM
Posted by gunsnewing:

That's true..good point man. What's ridiculous is the fact that he's jumping on Marbury after only 2 games when we were 14-20 and in a losing streak before we got him.

~Guns

You slowly finding out that Playa NEEDS someone to bash on the Knicks...

First it was Ewing
then JVG (which I agree)
then Sprewell
NOW Starbury

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1/8/2004  11:47 PM
The way the night started was electric... Man... It was like the way the Garden used to rock in the 90's... Everyone was upbeat, but I had to tell my boys that it really didn't matter whether we win or lose, because something good can come out of it. I was yelling "Fire Chaney!" before the first time out.

I had a feeling that something was amiss when my beer was stale. The game started, and everybody was wondering why the team looked SO flat. Chaney was looking so damn dull, and it rubbed off on the team. Me, knicksbb10 and a few fellas in the 300 section started the "Fire Chaney!!" chant. then the 400 section chimed in... then the 100's, and it was ON up in the Garden... WHen we first started, I saw Isaiah Thomas looking up in our direction. All that goddamned BUM Chaney could do was sit down and friggin' mope. I was wondsering why the hell this cat didn't get up and at least TRY eo motivate the team!!! It was like his ass didn't even care. During another timeout, when we started the chant again, the music came on extra loud to try to drown us out, but we just got louder- that actually made even more fans who were already disgusted by the score (we were down 18 at the time) start chanting too.

If you fellas had seen the looks on the players' faces when Chaney was talking to them, you would have thought that either they wasn't trying to hear whatever he was saying at all. Allan and KT especially looked disinterested.

Anyways, by the time it got to 7 minutes left in the fourth, some cats in the 400's were yelling "Ra-Sheed Wa-llace!!", but most of us had been yelling about Chaney so much earlier, that we had begun to get hoarse.

Did you fellas notice how disorganized we looked tonight? Can ANYBODY tell me what the friggin' strategy was- on offense OR defense? Can anybody shed a sliver of light on WHY Chaney just sat there like an ASS and let this happen? Don't think Zeke didn't peep him sitting there with his thumb up his ass, because he did. I saw it with my binocs like I saw just about all those little things one usually wouldn't catch just watching the game or peeping it on TV.

Anyone with a goddamn brain knows that this team was NOT motivated tonight. I don't know what Allan Houston was on, and Starbury just looked kinda nervous. KVH scored some, but was very tentative. The only one who really played with any kind of confidence was Moochie. No one else looked like they gave a damn besides Stephon, Deke, and a Ice-grilled Isaiah in his usual spot by the tunnel. IMO he saw that Chaney was clueless. Never have I EVER seen that dude Chaney look so lost, so indifferent. Myself and the rest of the fans saw that shyt too, believe me when I say that. We yelled so hard, most of us didn't have the voice to boo when the damn game finally ended. I for one can't hardly speak any louder than a whisper because I rooted so hard for my team- to make another change and FIRE THIS BUM-ASS COACH.

I said before that I saw a pattern when it came to Messiah Thomas' moves. Watch this next one. When I heard fans calling JVG's name, I knew in my heart that it was over for Chaney. Between that and the fever-pitch chants of "Fire Chaney!!", I know that since our old coach came in here and embarassed our team on a night like this, my wish to see Done Chaney GONE will soon come to fruition.

At one point, Isaiah was on his cell phone and talking like he didn't want anyone to know what he was saying... He was probably making those plans for moves right then. We were exposed so bad in the post that I know he's gotta be making plans for another trade too. Hopefully he'll answer the fans' request for Sheed sooner than we think.

The only thing that looked good tonight at one point was Beyonce' (who ALWAYS looks good!)...

I am too exhausted to argue or shut anyone down, so anyone trying to bring drama because of this game can save it and request your verbal spanking tomorrow.

I told Silver and Guns that I would post when I got home, so here it is. I rooted hard, fellas. Now I am gonna go rest, eat my dinner, and prepare to listen to Joe Benigno on WFAN @ 1AM. Maybe I'll call up his show after I get some lemon and honey for the throat.

Peace.
Another season, and more adversity to persevere through. We will get the job done, even BETTER than last year. GO KNICKS!
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1/9/2004  12:00 AM
excellent post Hardcore!! I'm sure Isiah noticed the same things you did and he will thank Chaney for the work he has done and he will praise his personality then he will show him the door.
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