tkf wrote:if he has another bad streak, I will say what I have said all year.. Young players are inconsistent. they have good and bad streaks.. so what is your point? you were the one who cosigned that ridiculous quote about him playing well in meaningless games...

In October you were saying Gallo could be close to 45% from the 3 this year because of his high percentage in a small sample size of games last year. I can post references if you like

dude you are all over the place.. what in the hell does that have to do with anything here? Yea, I said he "could" and he isn't, so what does that have to do with you cosigning an assinine post? I also said that chris paul can make a serious run at the MVP this year... care to elaborate on the relevance of that to this post? you have been shot down this entire thread, and you are just pulling from all over the place... why continue bro? on the real opt.. it is not a good look man....

If young players are inconsistent then what is the problem with me saying the last 3 games are a fluke? Oh if I say that Im a "hater" with an agenda.

Playa's statement was not asinine it was his opinion and based on Gallo's play over the season his conclusion is warranted.

franco12 wrote:

TMS wrote:

Again, NONE OF US watch practice. NONE OF US know what happens in practice. What happens in PRACTICE has a bearing on WHO PLAYS IN THE GAMES.

you're the one making these end all announcements about Jordan Hill's lazyness during practice... stop talkin' out yo ass dude... u haven't seen jack but sporadic play over 24 games to come to your expert analysis of this kid's game.

Plus one on this - because if you honestly believe that, then Duhon must be a completely different player in practice.

Because that is the ONLY way to explain how Douglas got no time all year.

Douglas was behind players and was a rookie and when he proved his worth he got in the game and has stayed there. What's the issue at hand? I don't see one. I saw a team with numerous veterans and rookies who needed to earn their time. Douglas did and when he was sitting he obviously worked so hard that he forced Mike to give him time. He got the time and hasn't looked back. It's been a great growth for Douglas. Again, what's the issue?

Hill was buried even further behind veteran players and he clearly wasn't nearly as ready to play as Douglas was. But even Hill started getting time and if he weren't traded he'd likely also be getting 15-20mpg as the Rockets have given him.

Again, what's the issues here? We should have started Hill and Douglas all year? And we'd have done what with the season that's any different than the position we're in now?

I think people look too far into these things. Mike hung onto the veterans a bit too long but not so long that he was some sort of idiot for doing so.

Toney Douglas is flourishing. To me that means he was handled just right.

AnubisADL wrote:
If young players are inconsistent then what is the problem with me saying the last 3 games are a fluke? Oh if I say that Im a "hater" with an agenda.

Playa's statement was not asinine it was his opinion and based on Gallo's play over the season his conclusion is warranted.

Good games indicate ceiling potential- you get an idea of what a kid can do. You have to look at who he is doing the good things against. If they always seem to come against inferior competition, and never against top opponents, that can be a telling sign.

Bad games are there to analyze a player potential weaknesses, and serve as point of reference for improvement, but you also monitor them to see who they are coming against, and how the young player is progressing over time against top competition.

With a young player you are looking for improved consistency, building on the good aspects of his game, and seeing him make the changes which will minimize or erase the bad aspects of his game. If a player is making the same mistakes 4 years after his entry into the NBA, even though he has become aware of them, that is cause for concern

You have a lot of issues, my friend. If you are taking the negative side, because some are overreacting to Gallo's evolution as a player this year and some recent success, just say it. I know that you are also going to be banging on him if he has a couple of bad games, so why be overly critical of people who like what they are seeing from him recently.

Nothing we say here really means squat here anyway-a player's development has nothing to do with you or me.

I almost hope that Gallinari does not emerge as a higher tier player, or god forbid, an All-Star, because I fear for your sanity, as you are going to have to make some mind-numbing, convoluted, and sanity threatening arguments to justify what seems to be your unwavering position that Gallinari is not now, and never will be, a good player by your standards.

And always remember, that finding arguments for a conclusion given in advance is not sports forum talk, but rather the special pleading of an insecure "fan."

CrushAlot wrote:

Cosmic wrote:

franco12 wrote:

TMS wrote:

Again, NONE OF US watch practice. NONE OF US know what happens in practice. What happens in PRACTICE has a bearing on WHO PLAYS IN THE GAMES.

you're the one making these end all announcements about Jordan Hill's lazyness during practice... stop talkin' out yo ass dude... u haven't seen jack but sporadic play over 24 games to come to your expert analysis of this kid's game.

Plus one on this - because if you honestly believe that, then Duhon must be a completely different player in practice.

Because that is the ONLY way to explain how Douglas got no time all year.

Douglas was behind players and was a rookie and when he proved his worth he got in the game and has stayed there. What's the issue at hand? I don't see one. I saw a team with numerous veterans and rookies who needed to earn their time. Douglas did and when he was sitting he obviously worked so hard that he forced Mike to give him time. He got the time and hasn't looked back. It's been a great growth for Douglas. Again, what's the issue?

Hill was buried even further behind veteran players and he clearly wasn't nearly as ready to play as Douglas was. But even Hill started getting time and if he weren't traded he'd likely also be getting 15-20mpg as the Rockets have given him.

Again, what's the issues here? We should have started Hill and Douglas all year? And we'd have done what with the season that's any different than the position we're in now?

I think people look too far into these things. Mike hung onto the veterans a bit too long but not so long that he was some sort of idiot for doing so.

Toney Douglas is flourishing. To me that means he was handled just right.

Douglas got minutes when Walsh traveled with the team on the March road trip and not before that. It doesn't make sense but it wasn't until then that he was given minutes. I think it had alot more to do with walsh being on the trip then Douglas suddenly out working everyone in practice.

Enough of these consipiracy theories....Where is the proof that Walsh (the GM) is now making coaching decisions? According to you, Walsh makes coaching decisions and MDA (the coach) is making GM decisions. According to you MDA is drafting players and trading players away and Walsh is organizing the rotations. No wonder this organization is so screwed...

CrushAlot wrote:

Cosmic wrote:

franco12 wrote:

TMS wrote:

Again, NONE OF US watch practice. NONE OF US know what happens in practice. What happens in PRACTICE has a bearing on WHO PLAYS IN THE GAMES.

you're the one making these end all announcements about Jordan Hill's lazyness during practice... stop talkin' out yo ass dude... u haven't seen jack but sporadic play over 24 games to come to your expert analysis of this kid's game.

Plus one on this - because if you honestly believe that, then Duhon must be a completely different player in practice.

Because that is the ONLY way to explain how Douglas got no time all year.

Douglas was behind players and was a rookie and when he proved his worth he got in the game and has stayed there. What's the issue at hand? I don't see one. I saw a team with numerous veterans and rookies who needed to earn their time. Douglas did and when he was sitting he obviously worked so hard that he forced Mike to give him time. He got the time and hasn't looked back. It's been a great growth for Douglas. Again, what's the issue?

Hill was buried even further behind veteran players and he clearly wasn't nearly as ready to play as Douglas was. But even Hill started getting time and if he weren't traded he'd likely also be getting 15-20mpg as the Rockets have given him.

Again, what's the issues here? We should have started Hill and Douglas all year? And we'd have done what with the season that's any different than the position we're in now?

I think people look too far into these things. Mike hung onto the veterans a bit too long but not so long that he was some sort of idiot for doing so.

Toney Douglas is flourishing. To me that means he was handled just right.

Douglas got minutes when Walsh traveled with the team on the March road trip and not before that. It doesn't make sense but it wasn't until then that he was given minutes. I think it had alot more to do with walsh being on the trip then Douglas suddenly out working everyone in practice.

LOL, now that's what I call desperate. So, um, Walsh gave him minutes did he? And why didn't Walsh give same minutes to the precious commodity in Jordan Hill?

loweyecue wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Cosmic wrote:

franco12 wrote:

TMS wrote:

Again, NONE OF US watch practice. NONE OF US know what happens in practice. What happens in PRACTICE has a bearing on WHO PLAYS IN THE GAMES.

you're the one making these end all announcements about Jordan Hill's lazyness during practice... stop talkin' out yo ass dude... u haven't seen jack but sporadic play over 24 games to come to your expert analysis of this kid's game.

Plus one on this - because if you honestly believe that, then Duhon must be a completely different player in practice.

Because that is the ONLY way to explain how Douglas got no time all year.

Douglas was behind players and was a rookie and when he proved his worth he got in the game and has stayed there. What's the issue at hand? I don't see one. I saw a team with numerous veterans and rookies who needed to earn their time. Douglas did and when he was sitting he obviously worked so hard that he forced Mike to give him time. He got the time and hasn't looked back. It's been a great growth for Douglas. Again, what's the issue?

Hill was buried even further behind veteran players and he clearly wasn't nearly as ready to play as Douglas was. But even Hill started getting time and if he weren't traded he'd likely also be getting 15-20mpg as the Rockets have given him.

Again, what's the issues here? We should have started Hill and Douglas all year? And we'd have done what with the season that's any different than the position we're in now?

I think people look too far into these things. Mike hung onto the veterans a bit too long but not so long that he was some sort of idiot for doing so.

Toney Douglas is flourishing. To me that means he was handled just right.

Douglas got minutes when Walsh traveled with the team on the March road trip and not before that. It doesn't make sense but it wasn't until then that he was given minutes. I think it had alot more to do with walsh being on the trip then Douglas suddenly out working everyone in practice.

LOL, now that's what I call desperate. So, um, Walsh gave him minutes did he? And why didn't Walsh give same minutes to the precious commodity in Jordan Hill?

Donnie Walsh spent nine days on the road with his basketball team, evaluating everything from Mike D'Antoni to the equipment manager.

Walsh, the Knicks' president, saw the good and bad of his team as well as the promising and the hopeless. No one knows exactly what Walsh, a lawyer at heart, is thinking because he's an old-school executive who likes to play it close to the vest. But several players and moments definitely stick out and we are free to assume what impressions the Knicks left him. Here are a few:

Toney Douglas: The rookie point guard was promoted to the starting lineup and performed well, particularly on the defensive end. One Celtics scout raved about Douglas' toughness and competitive spirit. That's not surprising since Walsh saw those same characteristics in Douglas when he decided to buy his draft rights from the Lakers for $3 million.

Whether Douglas can be a starting point guard on a championship-caliber team is debatable. Of course, that was also the knock on Charlie Ward, another physically and mentally tough guard from Florida State who guided the Knicks to the NBA Finals.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/2010/03/19/2010-03-19_knicks_road_has_highs_lows.html#ixzz16Vp3Xz3o