Jason Kidd makes his teammates better. You cannot say that about Marbury.

THAT was why the Nets got 1000 times better. He got the ball to Van Horn, he got the ball to Kittles. He made Martin and Jefferson the players they are today.


Marbury is not that kind of player.

But again, if he was, why would Phoenix trade him? They would build around him, right?

Posted by ARES:

hOW GOOD WOULD THE NETS HAVE BEEN WITH JASON KIDD AND KEITH VAN HORN AND 10 STIFFS?? YOU DO THE MATH

Better than they would have been with Marbury, Van Horn and 10 stiffs! How's that math?

bootsy there are 12 guys on a team, kidd, van horn, and 10 stiffs? cause thats what marbury had. but you right i was wrong, it would of been kidd and 11 stiffs. kidd is great but he had keith on his team remeber? and keith did nothing? remember? Rembere kidd wanting Keith gone? you must of forgot? Keith took the whole playoffs off. He got drilled in every round. with the great jason kidd.

Good talking to yall I'm out I got to go back to my site. hopfully there are more moves coming. Bootsey stay up bro. if lampe is the next kareem, be easy on a brother. see yall in a few weeks.
peace.

Jason Kidd took Keith Van Horn to the NBA Finals!

You leave that out.....it doesn't help your argument.

Let's see Marbury do that before you compare the two. It's not even close.

Posted by BootsyThornton:

Jason Kidd took Keith Van Horn to the NBA Finals!

You leave that out.....it doesn't help your argument.

Let's see Marbury do that before you compare the two. It's not even close.

Kidd also got to play with a healthy Kenyon Martin, Richard Jefferson and fulyl recovered Kerry Kittles. GIve Stephon a chance.

I'm stunned by this move.

I wonder if Keith is the next to go. He and Stephon didn't get along to well on the Nets.

Posted by Silverfuel:

I dunno man. I really think Stephon is going to be unreal here. Lets just say Zeke control's him keeps him under tabs and the NY Media keeps him in line, imagine the upside we have with this guy. He is unreal. And he can make people so much better just by penetrating. He will frustrate the Eastern Conference defenses with his style of play!

I have seen this guy go off for 40 points in 3 quarters against Seattle when Ewing first came to this area after his trade. Stephon is good and if he can be harnessed he can take if to the Eastern Conference championship. As for Lampe and Milos, its just terrible they had to go but can you honestly gaurantee them being better than Stephon?

There is no question that the Knicks are better, but by making the cap situation worse, and by giving up whatever future the Knicks had, there is no chance that the Knicks will ever win a championship. Prior to this trade there was a remote chance.

"No matter how long you play in this league, there's still things that come up that are surprising, and this is definitely one of them. Personally we never had any problems. On the court we didn't win, and I think that was the biggest problem that Stephon and I had."

-- F Keith Van Horn on Jan. 5, responding to the news that former Nets teammate Stephon Marbury was joining the Knicks via trade from the Suns. Marbury had been quoted as saying Van Horn's apparent lack of talent was one reason the Nets did not win

Marbury knows new york well enough to know that he better be on his best behavoir. Oh and by the way, can we please get rid of chaney still? otherwise he's gonna be playing moochie in the 4th instead of marbury.

I hope DICE passes the physical and makes the deal legit!

NY rotation:

Marbury-Houston-KVh-KT-DEke-Anderson-hardaway-Fwill-Othella-Doleac-Sweets-Moochie
Trybanski-Leon Smith

Still one roster SPOT open.

I think Moochie will be dealt....who said something about the Clips?

i'm still trying to figure out how this rich guy says we hadd a remote shot with lampe and vuljanic ????

Bootsey I had to come back, yes Kidd TOOK keith to the finals, cause lords knows Keith didnt help.

But why are you comparing Kidd to Marbury, We didnt trade Kidd, Kidd was the guy that demolished the knicks last night. You remember the game where Keith Van horn decided not to guard anyone in the fourth or score any baskets.


oooooooooh but i get it yes Marbury is the loser. Keith, yeah this guy is a victim. it wasnt his fault he scored 1 point or so in a playoff game last year against the pistons. Yeah that was iversons fault huh?

My guess, and by this i mean no malice, you didnt really watch the nets when marbury was there. you read the clippings and sports center. i watched every game. I saw a dude playing his ass off, playing team ball, his numbers are identical to last years TEAM version of marbury. I saw guy keith do what he did all his career play hard when there is no pressure, and shy away during cluthc times. You remember when keith was in college and they made that final four run. who was taking all the critical shots who was making the plays.

Andre Miller.

Keith had great numbers with th nets, with marbury. worse numbers with kidd. they had less talent bro. how o you expect marbury to win with Morris, and jason williams. Bootsey thorton couldnt win withou ARtest.