Childs2Dudley wrote:

Markji wrote:

Childs2Dudley wrote:If the Knicks sign Wade and Bosh this summer, does this trade matter? This is a trade you really can't ridicule for the Knicks part until we see what plays out this summer. It's neither stupid nor brilliant. It's just a trade right now with ramifications that will change the face of the franchise for better or worse this summer. It's a wait and see approach. Personally if I was the Knicks, I'd like for them to take Curry instead in that type of deal.

Wrong it is a stupid trade.

We could trade Jeffries + Jordan Hill to some team for an expiring and not have to give up first round picks.

And you know this how?

Jordan Hill=8th pick in draft
Possibly swapping a number 1 pick in the draft in 2011
and adding an unkown possibly high pick in 2012

Are we hedging in case we sck and need the picks? all for 6mm when we know LBJ isnt coming here?

i don't have a big problem with this trade if the rockets add lowry and maybe budinger to the deal and we add either hughes or mobley.

im skeptical on yahoo's inclusion of the draft picks, i wouldn't be too happy with the draft-pick scenario IF it's true, but like i said, i'm skeptical on that.

nyk4ever wrote:im skeptical on yahoo's inclusion of the draft picks, i wouldn't be too happy with the draft-pick scenario IF it's true, but like i said, i'm skeptical on that.

it will be nice to get rid of jeffries 6.8mm salary for next year. that would put us at about a 20-25mm in payroll, giving us 30-37mm to spend in free agency, which is a crap load of money and depending on the cap numbers, could give us 2 max FA and a resigned lee - tell me that's not a good team. this is a risk the team has to take based on where we're at.

My thing is stop complaining. The plan has always been 2010. Knicks weren't thinking build through the draft over 4 years. If you are worried about 2011 & 2012 then that's what your saying. Knicks aren't winning waiting for draft picks. Signing 2 players means the Knicks are trying to put together a 3-4 year run of contending for a title.

I Say Donnie should get tmac without trading Gallo and wilson...anything else including future picks are fair game.

VDesai wrote:An absolutely scary sounding trade. The Knicks need to keep the picks out of this. The Rockets are dont have cap space for next year and aren't using McGrady. They have to be realistic. For the Knicks, is it worth giving up what basically amounts to 3 first round picks just to get rid of Jeffries. Will they be able to put all that money to use?

I dont have a problem giving up Hill in order to move Jeffries, but no way am I trading away another 1st round pick, especially for a player who will never wear a rockets uni again.

EnySpree wrote:

I just threw up.

This guy is a straight up bum. A cripple.

I'd make a trade for the chance to clear FishLips but damn this new scenario has us giving up an awful lot just to accomplish that.

You know what I really want to know -- who's our competition for McGrady here? So far, I've only heard the Knicks as the only serious suitor looking to deal for him... If that's the case, why would we give up so much? I mean if they really have a man crush, maybe just wait until the summer and bring him in then and at a much lower salary. If he comes now and plays well for the rest of the year, the price goes up a ton to resign him. Then they're kinda forced to resign him at his price, with all they just gave up to bring him here which as of right now, sounds like way too much to give Houston, even if they agreed to take Jeffries. Probably way too much even if they took Curry instead of Jeffries, which the Knicks should be trying to push if all these successive draft picks are really at stake. This is nuts man, all these picks... F that...Maybe strip it back down to a T-Mac for Harrington & Larry Hughes deal & forget Jeffries. If Houston doesn't like that, they can go scratch.

nyk4ever wrote:first of all, people need to calm down. the deal that yahoo is proposing doesnt even come CLOSE to working salary wise, the knicks are acquiring about 8 million too many dollars.

i don't have a big problem with this trade if the rockets add lowry and maybe budinger to the deal and we add either hughes or mobley.

im skeptical on yahoo's inclusion of the draft picks, i wouldn't be too happy with the draft-pick scenario IF it's true, but like i said, i'm skeptical on that.

The deal works if it's

Al
Effries
Mobley
Hill
All those picks

4

T-Mac
Cook
Dorsey

or

Hughes
Darko
Effries
Hill
All those picks

4

T-Mac
Cook
Dorsey

It may come down to who the Rockets prefer the Knicks to give up to make salaries match or vice versa. The Knicks are supposedly waiting on word for Mobley's contract insurance relief. You only need to be within 125% +100k and both scenarios satisfy the guidelines.