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BRIGGS
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1/5/2010  5:25 AM
What would happen if you brought guns to your job and possibly pointed one at a co-worker?

Not only would you arse be fired but you would be arrested and scr*w*d--and rightfully so.
What other message is there to send? Bring gun to work place and aim in at someone with the excuse Im a goofball? This iis a chance for NBA to not only send a message to other players but to the world--you won't tolerate this behavior--a slap on the wrist would be awful and paint poor picture for youth. You must yield a saber on this one so it never happens again.

Termination with cause/ void contract--allow for possible reinstatement in two years after appropriate education/counseling. This is reasonable--10/20 game suspension is slap on wrist--how can you slap someone's wrist when you get fired and arrested every where else in society? Usually when someone brings gun to work or school--people tend to be killed/murdered. because you are in NBA lockeroom gives you sanctity from crime????

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1/5/2010  5:40 AM
BRIGGS wrote:What would happen if you brought guns to your job and possibly pointed one at a co-worker?

Not only would you arse be fired but you would be arrested and scr*w*d--and rightfully so.
What other message is there to send? Bring gun to work place and aim in at someone with the excuse Im a goofball? This iis a chance for NBA to not only send a message to other players but to the world--you won't tolerate this behavior--a slap on the wrist would be awful and paint poor picture for youth. You must yield a saber on this one so it never happens again.

Termination with cause/ void contract--allow for possible reinstatement in two years after appropriate education/counseling. This is reasonable--10/20 game suspension is slap on wrist--how can you slap someone's wrist when you get fired and arrested every where else in society? Usually when someone brings gun to work or school--people tend to be killed/murdered. because you are in NBA lockeroom gives you sanctity from crime????

hear hear, what would happen is your life would change for the worse and then you would feel not very good about yourself.

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1/5/2010  5:48 AM
BasketballJones wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:I don't know why anyone needs guns in the first place, I know theres the amendment but if no one had guns, there would be no violence, so why not just make a total ban?

People with winning brains need the guns to shoot animals while riding bicycles.

True winners use the bicycle to pull up to the animal and then what you do is jump off and tackle it

5000 years of recorded history? gunpowder should be used for one thing and one thing only in an ideal world, fireworks for fanciful displays

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1/5/2010  9:28 AM
Andrew wrote:Just a note: Pointing an unloaded gun at someone who does not know the gun is not loaded constitutes assualt in most cases.

Multiple sources indicate he didn't aim his gun at Chit, but rather put a box containing all three in front of him and said "pick one" (as in for an imminent duel). Since Chit had fronted $60k for Arena's gambling debt, and then Gilbert balked at paying it back, they had a legit beef. I bet Gilbert (who is an ass clown) was screwing around with him as a sick practical joke and it got out of hand. I don't think Arenas was trying to assault him in the locker room. Even Isaiah or Marbury wouldn't stoop that low.

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1/5/2010  9:41 AM

Plain and simple in my book, if the police charge him with a felony he gets supsended with pay until the trail or he pleads. If he convicted of a felony I assume he does time and his contract gets voided.

If no felony then what is the NBA policy on guns in the locker, plane, or any NBA related activity where he is considered an employee? If there is none then its time to institute a rule and penalty. Suspension without pay under any circumstances resonates with these guys.

This team imploded and its really time for Grunfeld to go. Once again, they got close but really a core of Gil, Jamison and Butler are talented but not the high winning character to take a team to the next level. Not "spreewell" bad, but just no leadership amung them. Gilbert never took it too serious and his time injured did not help.

Knicks be looking pretty good these days!

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1/5/2010  10:12 AM
BRIGGS wrote:What would happen if you brought guns to your job and possibly pointed one at a co-worker?

Not only would you arse be fired but you would be arrested and scr*w*d--and rightfully so.
What other message is there to send? Bring gun to work place and aim in at someone with the excuse Im a goofball? This iis a chance for NBA to not only send a message to other players but to the world--you won't tolerate this behavior--a slap on the wrist would be awful and paint poor picture for youth. You must yield a saber on this one so it never happens again.

Termination with cause/ void contract--allow for possible reinstatement in two years after appropriate education/counseling. This is reasonable--10/20 game suspension is slap on wrist--how can you slap someone's wrist when you get fired and arrested every where else in society? Usually when someone brings gun to work or school--people tend to be killed/murdered. because you are in NBA lockeroom gives you sanctity from crime????


I think you are over reacting. Hard to kill someone with an unloaded gun. At the end of the day Crittenton and Arenas weren't just co-workers. You think Arenas would have placed 3 guns in front of Mike Miller's locker? Doubtful

Awful picture for the youth when American society in general glorifies violence in movies and videogames.

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1/5/2010  10:15 AM
The thing about an unloaded handgun is that if you were to put bullets in it, then it would be loaded. And that's not that far from what happened. If those guns had bullets, one of them could have been fired. That's the problem.
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1/5/2010  10:27 AM
orangeblobman wrote:The thing about an unloaded handgun is that if you were to put bullets in it, then it would be loaded. And that's not that far from what happened. If those guns had bullets, one of them could have been fired. That's the problem.

If Plax didn't have bullets in his gun he wouldn't have shot himself either, so what. Fact remains Arenas says the guns were unloaded and they weren't discharged either. He will be charged on what happened not what might have happened.

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1/5/2010  10:31 AM
AnubisADL wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:The thing about an unloaded handgun is that if you were to put bullets in it, then it would be loaded. And that's not that far from what happened. If those guns had bullets, one of them could have been fired. That's the problem.

If Plax didn't have bullets in his gun he wouldn't have shot himself either, so what. Fact remains Arenas says the guns were unloaded and they weren't discharged either. He will be charged on what happened not what might have happened.

if my understanding of gun laws in DC is correct (from above), what happened is he broke the law and league policy.

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1/5/2010  10:41 AM
martin wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:The thing about an unloaded handgun is that if you were to put bullets in it, then it would be loaded. And that's not that far from what happened. If those guns had bullets, one of them could have been fired. That's the problem.

If Plax didn't have bullets in his gun he wouldn't have shot himself either, so what. Fact remains Arenas says the guns were unloaded and they weren't discharged either. He will be charged on what happened not what might have happened.

if my understanding of gun laws in DC is correct (from above), what happened is he broke the law and league policy.


Yes he did. He will likely be charged with a misdemeanor given probation and suspended for around 20 games maybe less depending on what he pleads too.
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BRIGGS
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1/5/2010  11:49 AM
AnubisADL wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:What would happen if you brought guns to your job and possibly pointed one at a co-worker?

Not only would you arse be fired but you would be arrested and scr*w*d--and rightfully so.
What other message is there to send? Bring gun to work place and aim in at someone with the excuse Im a goofball? This iis a chance for NBA to not only send a message to other players but to the world--you won't tolerate this behavior--a slap on the wrist would be awful and paint poor picture for youth. You must yield a saber on this one so it never happens again.

Termination with cause/ void contract--allow for possible reinstatement in two years after appropriate education/counseling. This is reasonable--10/20 game suspension is slap on wrist--how can you slap someone's wrist when you get fired and arrested every where else in society? Usually when someone brings gun to work or school--people tend to be killed/murdered. because you are in NBA lockeroom gives you sanctity from crime????


I think you are over reacting. Hard to kill someone with an unloaded gun. At the end of the day Crittenton and Arenas weren't just co-workers. You think Arenas would have placed 3 guns in front of Mike Miller's locker? Doubtful

Awful picture for the youth when American society in general glorifies violence in movies and videogames.

What would happen if you brought three guns to work? Unless your daddy owned the store--you wouldnt be there if you were caught. No one wants to see another person scrwd and I'm quite sure it was benign BUT the facts are way to compelling to dismiss. Didnt Jayson Williams think his gun was unloaded? Well someone is not here anymore and that wasnt in an NBA arena with co-workers. This is a severe offense--I don't see anyway out of this other than termination or severe suspension--meaning two full years.

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1/5/2010  11:52 AM
BRIGGS wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:What would happen if you brought guns to your job and possibly pointed one at a co-worker?

Not only would you arse be fired but you would be arrested and scr*w*d--and rightfully so.
What other message is there to send? Bring gun to work place and aim in at someone with the excuse Im a goofball? This iis a chance for NBA to not only send a message to other players but to the world--you won't tolerate this behavior--a slap on the wrist would be awful and paint poor picture for youth. You must yield a saber on this one so it never happens again.

Termination with cause/ void contract--allow for possible reinstatement in two years after appropriate education/counseling. This is reasonable--10/20 game suspension is slap on wrist--how can you slap someone's wrist when you get fired and arrested every where else in society? Usually when someone brings gun to work or school--people tend to be killed/murdered. because you are in NBA lockeroom gives you sanctity from crime????


I think you are over reacting. Hard to kill someone with an unloaded gun. At the end of the day Crittenton and Arenas weren't just co-workers. You think Arenas would have placed 3 guns in front of Mike Miller's locker? Doubtful

Awful picture for the youth when American society in general glorifies violence in movies and videogames.

What would happen if you brought three guns to work? Unless your daddy owned the store--you wouldnt be there if you were caught. No one wants to see another person scrwd and I'm quite sure it was benign BUT the facts are way to compelling to dismiss. Didnt Jayson Williams think his gun was unloaded? Well someone is not here anymore and that wasnt in an NBA arena with co-workers. This is a severe offense--I don't see anyway out of this other than termination or severe suspension--meaning two full years.

Good call BRIGGS. My thinking is that if you're foolish enough to bring a gun to work, you're absolutely foolish enough to forget that you put a bunch of bullets in it.

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1/5/2010  11:53 AM
Ok. I just need to get something straight here. Are these the same guns he brought in to keep from his daughter or were these guns brought in separately for this purpose?

I was actually sympathetic with the whole keep the guns away from my kids thing but did he lie about why the guns were really there?

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1/5/2010  12:27 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:What would happen if you brought guns to your job and possibly pointed one at a co-worker?

Not only would you arse be fired but you would be arrested and scr*w*d--and rightfully so.
What other message is there to send? Bring gun to work place and aim in at someone with the excuse Im a goofball? This iis a chance for NBA to not only send a message to other players but to the world--you won't tolerate this behavior--a slap on the wrist would be awful and paint poor picture for youth. You must yield a saber on this one so it never happens again.

Termination with cause/ void contract--allow for possible reinstatement in two years after appropriate education/counseling. This is reasonable--10/20 game suspension is slap on wrist--how can you slap someone's wrist when you get fired and arrested every where else in society? Usually when someone brings gun to work or school--people tend to be killed/murdered. because you are in NBA lockeroom gives you sanctity from crime????


I think you are over reacting. Hard to kill someone with an unloaded gun. At the end of the day Crittenton and Arenas weren't just co-workers. You think Arenas would have placed 3 guns in front of Mike Miller's locker? Doubtful

Awful picture for the youth when American society in general glorifies violence in movies and videogames.

What would happen if you brought three guns to work? Unless your daddy owned the store--you wouldnt be there if you were caught. No one wants to see another person scrwd and I'm quite sure it was benign BUT the facts are way to compelling to dismiss. Didnt Jayson Williams think his gun was unloaded? Well someone is not here anymore and that wasnt in an NBA arena with co-workers. This is a severe offense--I don't see anyway out of this other than termination or severe suspension--meaning two full years.

I don't like dealing in hypothetical scenarios. Jayson Williams killed a man and Plaxico's gun discharged in a crowded club. Arenas did none of the above.

Fighting , being insubordinate, or constantly coming in late can get you fired at work too but that doesnt happen in the NBA. The NBA uses fines and suspensions to deal with these matters not cancelling contracts.

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1/5/2010  1:23 PM

--->I don't like dealing in hypothetical scenarios.

Is it a fact that Gilbert Arenas brought multiple guns to his work place? Y-N?

The answer is Yes. He should be terminated like any other person in this world. Who the F brings guns to work?

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1/5/2010  1:59 PM
damn... I was hoping we could trade for him this summer
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1/5/2010  2:01 PM
fishmike wrote:damn... I was hoping we could trade for him this summer

we can get him for the MLE once he gets out of jail

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1/5/2010  3:04 PM
he's not going to jail. He might not have even broken the law, thats yet to be determined. If we resign Lee and sign Lebron next summer it doesnt leave us with a lot of options for bringing in players and we could use a veteran PG (preferably one NOT named Duhon).

Arenas is a guy that might be had for a couple expiring deals in JJ/Curry. Once you bring in LBJ and resign Lee your capped out anyway.

Baron Davis would be another good options.

How would this look for next year?
PG Arenas or Baron Davis
SG Lebron
SF Chandler
PF Gallinari
C Lee
bench: Douglas/Hill/Nate?????????????

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1/5/2010  3:27 PM
fishmike wrote:he's not going to jail. He might not have even broken the law, thats yet to be determined. If we resign Lee and sign Lebron next summer it doesnt leave us with a lot of options for bringing in players and we could use a veteran PG (preferably one NOT named Duhon).

Arenas is a guy that might be had for a couple expiring deals in JJ/Curry. Once you bring in LBJ and resign Lee your capped out anyway.

Baron Davis would be another good options.

How would this look for next year?
PG Arenas or Baron Davis
SG Lebron
SF Chandler
PF Gallinari
C Lee
bench: Douglas/Hill/Nate?????????????

I was worried about a team acquiring Arenas on the cheap. You can never put it past a team to try to mimic the success of the Spreewell trade or the Stephen Jackson trade to Golden State.

Getting rid of Arenas for an expiring would be a steal. I always thought Arenas would be a beast next to Lebron.

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orangeblobman wrote:
BasketballJones wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:I don't know why anyone needs guns in the first place, I know theres the amendment but if no one had guns, there would be no violence, so why not just make a total ban?

People with winning brains need the guns to shoot animals while riding bicycles.

True winners use the bicycle to pull up to the animal and then what you do is jump off and tackle it

5000 years of recorded history? gunpowder should be used for one thing and one thing only in an ideal world, fireworks for fanciful displays

the human race & violence goes hand in hand... it's been that way since the dawn of history... guns or no guns.

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