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12/2/2009  12:10 PM
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fishmike wrote:guy is shooting 44% from downtown. Its Allan Houston Reggie Miller like. If he gets 10 open looks he should shoot every time. Maybe those numbers tail off but he showed his range last night and that extends WELL past the 3 point line.

Allan's a good comparison, except Gallo will be more versatile. I think he can actually shoot as well as Allan. It's interesting that Allan's father was a coach and Gallo's father was a player.

The one talent Allan had over other jumpshooters was that nasty pull-up jumper(to go with his solid post up game). He was tough to guard. He could shoot over the smaller guys on the pull-up. And he had enough quickness/strength to get bigger defenders off balance to get whatever shot he wanted. Gallo right now is good off the dribble if he is faking a move and going into a shot. He hasn't developed that shot where he is moving forward or making a move across the defense and then stopping on a dime for a pull-up. He often times will take one dribble passed his defender, stop, pick the ball up, be towering over his defender, but because he has not learned to use his body to bump defenders off of him he is not able to get the shot off.

Another thing he needs to work on is how to attack the basket while jumping off two feet and powering up using his body. If he takes it to the whole right now he always goes off the one leg. He goes to the hole and then takes those long loping strides into a one foot lay-up. This is one of the differences between Europe and the NBA. In Europe you can get away with that. In the NBA the players are far too athletic, so if you don't use your body or mix-up the way you attack the basket, guys can read you too easily and affect your shot. That's what is happening to him right now.


very good observations, and I think once he gets stronger, you will see him not only use his body to finish shots at the rim, but also getting there. He also gets bumped off his dribble easy, but again, once he gets stronger, you will see less of that happenning...

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12/2/2009  12:15 PM
tkf wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:
Ira wrote:
fishmike wrote:guy is shooting 44% from downtown. Its Allan Houston Reggie Miller like. If he gets 10 open looks he should shoot every time. Maybe those numbers tail off but he showed his range last night and that extends WELL past the 3 point line.

Allan's a good comparison, except Gallo will be more versatile. I think he can actually shoot as well as Allan. It's interesting that Allan's father was a coach and Gallo's father was a player.

The one talent Allan had over other jumpshooters was that nasty pull-up jumper(to go with his solid post up game). He was tough to guard. He could shoot over the smaller guys on the pull-up. And he had enough quickness/strength to get bigger defenders off balance to get whatever shot he wanted. Gallo right now is good off the dribble if he is faking a move and going into a shot. He hasn't developed that shot where he is moving forward or making a move across the defense and then stopping on a dime for a pull-up. He often times will take one dribble passed his defender, stop, pick the ball up, be towering over his defender, but because he has not learned to use his body to bump defenders off of him he is not able to get the shot off.

Another thing he needs to work on is how to attack the basket while jumping off two feet and powering up using his body. If he takes it to the whole right now he always goes off the one leg. He goes to the hole and then takes those long loping strides into a one foot lay-up. This is one of the differences between Europe and the NBA. In Europe you can get away with that. In the NBA the players are far too athletic, so if you don't use your body or mix-up the way you attack the basket, guys can read you too easily and affect your shot. That's what is happening to him right now.


very good observations, and I think once he gets stronger, you will see him not only use his body to finish shots at the rim, but also getting there. He also gets bumped off his dribble easy, but again, once he gets stronger, you will see less of that happenning...

I am thinking he shouldnt get stronger. I think losing weight and commiting to being a 3 is whats best for him, especially if he's going to have back issues. He's big so he's going to cause nice matchup problems and he can drill that jumper with guys in his face. I see him more a Rashard Lewis type than a Dirk type. Time will tell. Regardless its good to see him playing with confidence
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12/2/2009  12:16 PM
"he's been much better since putting gel in his hair before games"

fishmike - excellent point. Have you also noticed in the still photography is how huge Gallinari is above the waist? His arms should be registered as lethal weapons. The Knicks can redefine the meaning of frontcourt with his outside range. Just think Sheed without the foul attitude and the pre game dance routines.

A reasonable facsimile of Marcus Camby or Chris Bosh would be a perfect sidekick.

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12/2/2009  12:19 PM
tkf wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:
Ira wrote:
fishmike wrote:guy is shooting 44% from downtown. Its Allan Houston Reggie Miller like. If he gets 10 open looks he should shoot every time. Maybe those numbers tail off but he showed his range last night and that extends WELL past the 3 point line.

Allan's a good comparison, except Gallo will be more versatile. I think he can actually shoot as well as Allan. It's interesting that Allan's father was a coach and Gallo's father was a player.

The one talent Allan had over other jumpshooters was that nasty pull-up jumper(to go with his solid post up game). He was tough to guard. He could shoot over the smaller guys on the pull-up. And he had enough quickness/strength to get bigger defenders off balance to get whatever shot he wanted. Gallo right now is good off the dribble if he is faking a move and going into a shot. He hasn't developed that shot where he is moving forward or making a move across the defense and then stopping on a dime for a pull-up. He often times will take one dribble passed his defender, stop, pick the ball up, be towering over his defender, but because he has not learned to use his body to bump defenders off of him he is not able to get the shot off.

Another thing he needs to work on is how to attack the basket while jumping off two feet and powering up using his body. If he takes it to the whole right now he always goes off the one leg. He goes to the hole and then takes those long loping strides into a one foot lay-up. This is one of the differences between Europe and the NBA. In Europe you can get away with that. In the NBA the players are far too athletic, so if you don't use your body or mix-up the way you attack the basket, guys can read you too easily and affect your shot. That's what is happening to him right now.


very good observations, and I think once he gets stronger, you will see him not only use his body to finish shots at the rim, but also getting there. He also gets bumped off his dribble easy, but again, once he gets stronger, you will see less of that happenning...

My backcourt partner in high school that I still say is the greatest player never to make it to the nBA was a master at that. We would play one on one. I was quicker and stronger then him but somehow I could never affect his shot. He got whatever shot he wanted. It took me about 8 years of playing with him and talking to him before I noticed and was able to implement the subtle body bumps. It's not just the bump, it's when you do it. Now I'm in my 30's past my prime and I can get my pull-up over taller and quicker young guys at will, simply because I learned the exact moment of when to bump a defender. It's subtle and hard to teach. You don't have to knock the defender over. You don't have to be strong(although it helps). You just bump and use the defenders momentum against them. The key is that we need Gallo to learn as a youngster and not when he's old and fat and playing in YMCA co-ed leagues and dominating 5 foot tall teenage girls. It's a race against time my friends!!!

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12/2/2009  12:20 PM
fishmike wrote:
tkf wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:
Ira wrote:
fishmike wrote:guy is shooting 44% from downtown. Its Allan Houston Reggie Miller like. If he gets 10 open looks he should shoot every time. Maybe those numbers tail off but he showed his range last night and that extends WELL past the 3 point line.

Allan's a good comparison, except Gallo will be more versatile. I think he can actually shoot as well as Allan. It's interesting that Allan's father was a coach and Gallo's father was a player.

The one talent Allan had over other jumpshooters was that nasty pull-up jumper(to go with his solid post up game). He was tough to guard. He could shoot over the smaller guys on the pull-up. And he had enough quickness/strength to get bigger defenders off balance to get whatever shot he wanted. Gallo right now is good off the dribble if he is faking a move and going into a shot. He hasn't developed that shot where he is moving forward or making a move across the defense and then stopping on a dime for a pull-up. He often times will take one dribble passed his defender, stop, pick the ball up, be towering over his defender, but because he has not learned to use his body to bump defenders off of him he is not able to get the shot off.

Another thing he needs to work on is how to attack the basket while jumping off two feet and powering up using his body. If he takes it to the whole right now he always goes off the one leg. He goes to the hole and then takes those long loping strides into a one foot lay-up. This is one of the differences between Europe and the NBA. In Europe you can get away with that. In the NBA the players are far too athletic, so if you don't use your body or mix-up the way you attack the basket, guys can read you too easily and affect your shot. That's what is happening to him right now.


very good observations, and I think once he gets stronger, you will see him not only use his body to finish shots at the rim, but also getting there. He also gets bumped off his dribble easy, but again, once he gets stronger, you will see less of that happenning...

I am thinking he shouldnt get stronger. I think losing weight and commiting to being a 3 is whats best for him, especially if he's going to have back issues. He's big so he's going to cause nice matchup problems and he can drill that jumper with guys in his face. I see him more a Rashard Lewis type than a Dirk type. Time will tell. Regardless its good to see him playing with confidence

We're not talking about him becoming a weight lifter. We are talking about developing basketball strength. He will definitely need to do so if he wants to "take it to the next level". Some of this will come naturally and some will come in the weight room. But he certainly doesn't need to add any bulk to his body.

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12/2/2009  12:26 PM
Bippity10 wrote:
fishmike wrote:
tkf wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:
Ira wrote:
fishmike wrote:guy is shooting 44% from downtown. Its Allan Houston Reggie Miller like. If he gets 10 open looks he should shoot every time. Maybe those numbers tail off but he showed his range last night and that extends WELL past the 3 point line.

Allan's a good comparison, except Gallo will be more versatile. I think he can actually shoot as well as Allan. It's interesting that Allan's father was a coach and Gallo's father was a player.

The one talent Allan had over other jumpshooters was that nasty pull-up jumper(to go with his solid post up game). He was tough to guard. He could shoot over the smaller guys on the pull-up. And he had enough quickness/strength to get bigger defenders off balance to get whatever shot he wanted. Gallo right now is good off the dribble if he is faking a move and going into a shot. He hasn't developed that shot where he is moving forward or making a move across the defense and then stopping on a dime for a pull-up. He often times will take one dribble passed his defender, stop, pick the ball up, be towering over his defender, but because he has not learned to use his body to bump defenders off of him he is not able to get the shot off.

Another thing he needs to work on is how to attack the basket while jumping off two feet and powering up using his body. If he takes it to the whole right now he always goes off the one leg. He goes to the hole and then takes those long loping strides into a one foot lay-up. This is one of the differences between Europe and the NBA. In Europe you can get away with that. In the NBA the players are far too athletic, so if you don't use your body or mix-up the way you attack the basket, guys can read you too easily and affect your shot. That's what is happening to him right now.


very good observations, and I think once he gets stronger, you will see him not only use his body to finish shots at the rim, but also getting there. He also gets bumped off his dribble easy, but again, once he gets stronger, you will see less of that happenning...

I am thinking he shouldnt get stronger. I think losing weight and commiting to being a 3 is whats best for him, especially if he's going to have back issues. He's big so he's going to cause nice matchup problems and he can drill that jumper with guys in his face. I see him more a Rashard Lewis type than a Dirk type. Time will tell. Regardless its good to see him playing with confidence

We're not talking about him becoming a weight lifter. We are talking about developing basketball strength. He will definitely need to do so if he wants to "take it to the next level". Some of this will come naturally and some will come in the weight room. But he certainly doesn't need to add any bulk to his body.

exactly, basketball strenght, more core strength and explosivness.. That he certainly can improve on..

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12/2/2009  12:41 PM
C'mon Man!

"basketball strenght, more core strength and explosivness." please stop nitpicking at Gallo. 27 and 10 is a beautiful thing.

He has played a grand total of 46 NBA games. A little over a half season. With experience, confidence and a fluid 6'11 running buddy at center, things can only get better.

Why of why can't Nate Robinson be 6'8?

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12/2/2009  12:58 PM
The Answer Man Fires From Two Feet Outside Of Three Point Range

Q. nix - Can u imagine how good he'll be with a great passer?

A. Drew Brees!

Q. NYKbocker - Bird Lite anyone?

A. Gallo is much more handsome than Bird. Never forget that it requires an effective triumvirate of all star calibre talent to compete for a championship. Robert Parish and Kevin McHale anyone?

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12/2/2009  1:06 PM
Gallo hasn't been 6-11 for very long. He will gain some natural strength but he does need to strengthen his base. The guy has NO, NADA, ZIlCH kind of strength in his legs. He's light in the britches. He needs to do core strength and explosion work. They will hold off on that I guess so he can full heal but this summer I hope he can begin to work on that.
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12/2/2009  1:08 PM
misterearl wrote:C'mon Man!

"basketball strenght, more core strength and explosivness." please stop nitpicking at Gallo. 27 and 10 is a beautiful thing.

He has played a grand total of 46 NBA games. A little over a half season. With experience, confidence and a fluid 6'11 running buddy at center, things can only get better.

Why of why can't Nate Robinson be 6'8?

If you know me, when it comes to gallo, the last thing I do is nitpick... LOL..

we are just talking about some areas he needs to work on.. I am still smiling from last nights game, but when you start playing like that. Teams take notice.. teams are already guarding gallo at the three point line.. I am just looking at ways he can get so much better.... just look at brandon jennings after that 55 point game.. teams started paying more attention to the young fella.

This is far from nitpicking gallo... I am one of the few strong gallo defenders on here along with TMS...

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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12/2/2009  1:15 PM
tkf wrote:
misterearl wrote:C'mon Man!

"basketball strenght, more core strength and explosivness." please stop nitpicking at Gallo. 27 and 10 is a beautiful thing.

He has played a grand total of 46 NBA games. A little over a half season. With experience, confidence and a fluid 6'11 running buddy at center, things can only get better.

Why of why can't Nate Robinson be 6'8?

If you know me, when it comes to gallo, the last thing I do is nitpick... LOL..

we are just talking about some areas he needs to work on.. I am still smiling from last nights game, but when you start playing like that. Teams take notice.. teams are already guarding gallo at the three point line.. I am just looking at ways he can get so much better.... just look at brandon jennings after that 55 point game.. teams started paying more attention to the young fella.

This is far from nitpicking gallo... I am one of the few strong gallo defenders on here along with TMS...

don't leave me out dude.

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nyk4ever wrote:
tkf wrote:
misterearl wrote:C'mon Man!

"basketball strenght, more core strength and explosivness." please stop nitpicking at Gallo. 27 and 10 is a beautiful thing.

He has played a grand total of 46 NBA games. A little over a half season. With experience, confidence and a fluid 6'11 running buddy at center, things can only get better.

Why of why can't Nate Robinson be 6'8?

If you know me, when it comes to gallo, the last thing I do is nitpick... LOL..

we are just talking about some areas he needs to work on.. I am still smiling from last nights game, but when you start playing like that. Teams take notice.. teams are already guarding gallo at the three point line.. I am just looking at ways he can get so much better.... just look at brandon jennings after that 55 point game.. teams started paying more attention to the young fella.

This is far from nitpicking gallo... I am one of the few strong gallo defenders on here along with TMS...

don't leave me out dude.

of course not....

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12/2/2009  1:34 PM
tkf wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:
tkf wrote:
misterearl wrote:C'mon Man!

"basketball strenght, more core strength and explosivness." please stop nitpicking at Gallo. 27 and 10 is a beautiful thing.

He has played a grand total of 46 NBA games. A little over a half season. With experience, confidence and a fluid 6'11 running buddy at center, things can only get better.

Why of why can't Nate Robinson be 6'8?

If you know me, when it comes to gallo, the last thing I do is nitpick... LOL..

we are just talking about some areas he needs to work on.. I am still smiling from last nights game, but when you start playing like that. Teams take notice.. teams are already guarding gallo at the three point line.. I am just looking at ways he can get so much better.... just look at brandon jennings after that 55 point game.. teams started paying more attention to the young fella.

This is far from nitpicking gallo... I am one of the few strong gallo defenders on here along with TMS...

don't leave me out dude.

of course not....

HEY! I've been on board since before the draft!

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12/2/2009  1:53 PM
By the way...Is it a coincidence that Gallo had a great game when Lil Nate was benched?

Hughes was looking for Gallo and things opened up for the rest of the team.

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12/2/2009  1:58 PM
tkf wrote:
misterearl wrote:C'mon Man!

"basketball strenght, more core strength and explosivness." please stop nitpicking at Gallo. 27 and 10 is a beautiful thing.

He has played a grand total of 46 NBA games. A little over a half season. With experience, confidence and a fluid 6'11 running buddy at center, things can only get better.

Why of why can't Nate Robinson be 6'8?

If you know me, when it comes to gallo, the last thing I do is nitpick... LOL..

we are just talking about some areas he needs to work on.. I am still smiling from last nights game, but when you start playing like that. Teams take notice.. teams are already guarding gallo at the three point line.. I am just looking at ways he can get so much better.... just look at brandon jennings after that 55 point game.. teams started paying more attention to the young fella.

This is far from nitpicking gallo... I am one of the few strong gallo defenders on here along with TMS...

I'm in agreement. i don't think anyone is nitpicking. As with every basketball player on the planet he has areas where he needs improvement. Judging by how 6-5 guys are able to frustrate him by bumping him on his drives and post ups this is an area where he needs to improve. No shame in that. I actually do think he's gotten stronger since last year and will do so naturally as well as with hard work in the gym.

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12/2/2009  1:58 PM
By the way, Gallo is a bust
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12/2/2009  2:32 PM
Bippity10 wrote:By the way, Gallo is a bust

I agree fully 100%

If he can't figure out a way to stop looking so cross-eyed then he'll never have a shot at being an all-time great.

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12/2/2009  2:54 PM
nyk4ever wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:By the way, Gallo is a bust

I agree fully 100%

If he can't figure out a way to stop looking so cross-eyed then he'll never have a shot at being an all-time great.

Stiff legs, crossed eyes, hes doomed

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12/2/2009  3:17 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/2/2009  3:18 PM
nixluva wrote:Gallo hasn't been 6-11 for very long. He will gain some natural strength but he does need to strengthen his base. The guy has NO, NADA, ZIlCH kind of strength in his legs. He's light in the britches. He needs to do core strength and explosion work. They will hold off on that I guess so he can full heal but this summer I hope he can begin to work on that.

Yup- He has to lower his center of gravity by building up his lower body- he gets bumped off his spot too easily at times.

He is a lot tougher than I thought he would be on the defensive end, though- even with his strength limitations.

I also think that with his physical maturation, and increase in strength, he is heading toward the PF position. No reason to be chasing around small forwards when he can be feasting on big slow PFs on the offensive end, and using his intelligence and positioning to not get overpowered on the defensive end.

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