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I am starting to worry about Gallo
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nixluva
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10/20/2009  1:14 AM
This draft thing is tricky. Some guys are already peaked out and then you get guys like Rondo who start slow and don't even have a pro NBA jumper or PG IQ, one day it all comes together and the guy avg's a triple double. You can't always tell right away what the end result will be.
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10/20/2009  8:04 AM
"I am starting to worry about Gallo" We will choose no 'whine' before it's time.
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10/20/2009  9:15 AM
Posted by GKFv2:
Posted by sebstar:
Posted by GKFv2:
Posted by sebstar:

As of now, I'm giving Gallo the benefit of the doubt. Duke is coming off back surgery, we've got to give him time to get his legs back and acclimate himself to NBA speed again. Gallo has a very high ceiling given his size and skill set. Would I be more comfortable with a Gordon or Rudolph right now? Sure, but there is more than a good chance that Gallo could shoot past them once he fixes his shyt.

But Hill. Naw. I'm not sold. You really going to tell me that you guys would rather have Hill/Douglas than Jennings/Blair? Hil's ceiling just seems so cotdamn low.

Yes. Yes I am.

Why. So you're telling me if we had Jennings/Blair and somebody else had Hill/Douglas you would envy their picks? Be real, fam.

[Edited by - sebstar on 10-19-2009 11:05 PM]

I never liked and still don't like Brandon Jennings and wtf has Blair done to be branded some can't-miss prospect? Like I said, if you can't wait a couple of years to evaluate a young player then why even post at all? Some players take longer to develop then others. Nobody knows how anyone will pan out so why even complain about something we have no idea about?

that generic analysis is self-serving for Knick fan psyche purposes. Well, lets just say that he's going to take longer to develop because that sounds good. We have an idea of how Hill is playing now and we can reasonably project.
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10/20/2009  9:18 AM
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by sebstar:
Posted by GKFv2:
Posted by sebstar:

As of now, I'm giving Gallo the benefit of the doubt. Duke is coming off back surgery, we've got to give him time to get his legs back and acclimate himself to NBA speed again. Gallo has a very high ceiling given his size and skill set. Would I be more comfortable with a Gordon or Rudolph right now? Sure, but there is more than a good chance that Gallo could shoot past them once he fixes his shyt.

But Hill. Naw. I'm not sold. You really going to tell me that you guys would rather have Hill/Douglas than Jennings/Blair? Hil's ceiling just seems so cotdamn low.

Yes. Yes I am.

Why. So you're telling me if we had Jennings/Blair and somebody else had Hill/Douglas you would envy their picks? Be real, fam.

[Edited by - sebstar on 10-19-2009 11:05 PM]

I would take Jennings/Blair but we don't have Jennings and Blair so I don't whine about it.


You obviously have more important things to "whine" about.

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10/20/2009  9:46 AM
Gallo has gotten better every game outside of that 7-41 thing. he is fast improving and will dominate the regular season.
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10/20/2009  11:01 AM
Posted by sebstar:
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by sebstar:
Posted by GKFv2:
Posted by sebstar:

As of now, I'm giving Gallo the benefit of the doubt. Duke is coming off back surgery, we've got to give him time to get his legs back and acclimate himself to NBA speed again. Gallo has a very high ceiling given his size and skill set. Would I be more comfortable with a Gordon or Rudolph right now? Sure, but there is more than a good chance that Gallo could shoot past them once he fixes his shyt.

But Hill. Naw. I'm not sold. You really going to tell me that you guys would rather have Hill/Douglas than Jennings/Blair? Hil's ceiling just seems so cotdamn low.

Yes. Yes I am.

Why. So you're telling me if we had Jennings/Blair and somebody else had Hill/Douglas you would envy their picks? Be real, fam.

[Edited by - sebstar on 10-19-2009 11:05 PM]

I would take Jennings/Blair but we don't have Jennings and Blair so I don't whine about it.


You obviously have more important things to "whine" about.

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshheuf5TPCS3Xzb0euL

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10/20/2009  11:07 AM
Posted by Bippity10:

Seb: You and I had a rocky start but over time I have grown to think you are hilarious.

like nick cannon...
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10/20/2009  11:08 AM
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by sebstar:
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by sebstar:
Posted by GKFv2:
Posted by sebstar:

As of now, I'm giving Gallo the benefit of the doubt. Duke is coming off back surgery, we've got to give him time to get his legs back and acclimate himself to NBA speed again. Gallo has a very high ceiling given his size and skill set. Would I be more comfortable with a Gordon or Rudolph right now? Sure, but there is more than a good chance that Gallo could shoot past them once he fixes his shyt.

But Hill. Naw. I'm not sold. You really going to tell me that you guys would rather have Hill/Douglas than Jennings/Blair? Hil's ceiling just seems so cotdamn low.

Yes. Yes I am.

Why. So you're telling me if we had Jennings/Blair and somebody else had Hill/Douglas you would envy their picks? Be real, fam.

[Edited by - sebstar on 10-19-2009 11:05 PM]

I would take Jennings/Blair but we don't have Jennings and Blair so I don't whine about it.


You obviously have more important things to "whine" about.

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshheuf5TPCS3Xzb0euL

Seb: You and I had a rocky start but over time I have grown to think you are hilarious.

Is this what we call frenemies?
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10/20/2009  11:57 AM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by Bippity10:

Seb: You and I had a rocky start but over time I have grown to think you are hilarious.

like nick cannon...

Zactly
I just hope that people will like me
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10/20/2009  10:32 PM
glad to see gallo show glimpses tonight. i needed to be reminded of his skills.
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10/20/2009  10:39 PM
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by sebstar:
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by sebstar:
Posted by GKFv2:
Posted by sebstar:

As of now, I'm giving Gallo the benefit of the doubt. Duke is coming off back surgery, we've got to give him time to get his legs back and acclimate himself to NBA speed again. Gallo has a very high ceiling given his size and skill set. Would I be more comfortable with a Gordon or Rudolph right now? Sure, but there is more than a good chance that Gallo could shoot past them once he fixes his shyt.

But Hill. Naw. I'm not sold. You really going to tell me that you guys would rather have Hill/Douglas than Jennings/Blair? Hil's ceiling just seems so cotdamn low.

Yes. Yes I am.

Why. So you're telling me if we had Jennings/Blair and somebody else had Hill/Douglas you would envy their picks? Be real, fam.

[Edited by - sebstar on 10-19-2009 11:05 PM]

I would take Jennings/Blair but we don't have Jennings and Blair so I don't whine about it.


You obviously have more important things to "whine" about.

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshheuf5TPCS3Xzb0euL

Seb: You and I had a rocky start but over time I have grown to think you are hilarious.

Haha. Hells yeah, bout time you came around. Good looks, fam.

Still dont like you tho.
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10/20/2009  10:50 PM
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10/20/2009  11:46 PM
Gallo looked fine tonight.
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10/20/2009  11:52 PM
I will say that he looked like he turned the corner in the confidence department. He still looks slow out there and gets pushed around under the basket. He shoots flat footed and doesn't seem to trust his foot work.

All of these things time can heal but all in all, it was good to see the guy not look like a deer in the headlights for once.



[Edited by - Martice on 10-20-2009 11:53 PM]
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10/20/2009  11:53 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:


Is this what we call frenemies?

Perchance, did you watch Cash Cab tonight?
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10/21/2009  12:45 AM
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Posted by Martice:

I will say that he looked like he turned the corner in the confidence department. He still looks slow out there and gets pushed around under the basket. He shoots flat footed and doesn't seem to trust his foot work.

All of these things time can heal but all in all, it was good to see the guy not look like a deer in the headlights for once.



[Edited by - Martice on 10-20-2009 11:53 PM]
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I agree, I'm just trusting what I hear at this point, he ok tonight, but he's been a deer in head lights for the most part..Teams are making a conscious effort to go at him and there pretty much having there way.
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10/21/2009  1:25 AM
I think this kid will eventually figure out how to beat defenders at this level cuz he's smart. You don't have to be the biggest fastest or the strongest when you're the smartest. Larry Bird wasn't anything great physically but he knew how to change speeds, create just enough space to get he quick release off etc. I see Gallo getting to that point one day. He's still very young and new to NBA level D, but he'll adjust, mature and get stronger.
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10/21/2009  1:45 AM
Gallo had a little slump and people lost confidence. I am telling everybody, he is Bird Lite. He is just a very good basketball player.
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10/21/2009  2:05 AM
Posted by knicks1248:

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Posted by Martice:

I will say that he looked like he turned the corner in the confidence department. He still looks slow out there and gets pushed around under the basket. He shoots flat footed and doesn't seem to trust his foot work.

All of these things time can heal but all in all, it was good to see the guy not look like a deer in the headlights for once.

[Edited by - Martice on 10-20-2009 11:53 PM]

I agree, I'm just trusting what I hear at this point, he ok tonight, but he's been a deer in head lights for the most part..Teams are making a conscious effort to go at him and there pretty much having there way.
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I have to say that some of you folks don't seem to understand what you are seeing in terms of his D. Tonight's game finally showed him moving around on offense like he was part of the team and not just standing around hoping to get the ball, and I was happy to see that, but if you really look at what he is doing on the defensive end, it is pretty impressive. The "having their way comment" means that you are not really watching the game, but only seeing a few plays where guys try to bully him down low and, I might add, frequently unsuccessfully.

You have a 6'10" "defensively soft European" player actually playing the most aware defense of anyone on the team (as aware as anyone on the team, would be more appropriate). Some players come at him a little hard- they are testing him- but if you actually take the time to watch him play defense when he is not on the ball, you will be impressed by how he plays the angles and is rarely out of position. In case people were not paying attention, he had a number of important defensive plays in the second half. And in case people were not paying attention, you might have noticed that after he was taken out in the 4th, his man, Daniels, scored an uncontested layup with another many guarding him.

I have been disappointed with his diversity on offense up to this point, but defensively, for a 6'10" 21 year old kid coming off of back surgery, and clearly not on his best legs, who has been guarding shooting guards and small forwards, he has been much more than a pleasant surprise, and nothing he did tonight makes me think differently. I thought Pierce should have been called for an offensive foul one time, and one of two other Celtics should have been called for some rough play against him, but Gallinari is not adverse to mixing it up on D, and with another 15+ lbs, he should be fine. Eventually he should be playing a lot of PF, where he will have to bang a bit more, but not have to deal with the speed of 2s and 3s, and folks will be looking at him as one of the better defensive PFs (it ain't all about blocking shots) in the league.

Why not watch Cosmic's upload of the game and actually zone in on him when he is playing D off the ball so you can see how he does things. Not always perfect, but you will be surprised.

The fact that MDA continues to give Gallinari good minutes when he is shooting the ball the way he has tells you how much he thinks about his defense- and if you got MDA to ditch the diplomacy, and be honest about things, he would tell you that Gallinari is one of the most dependable defenders on this Knicks team- much more so than some of our homegrown veterans. Gallinari's struggles are on offense. He has looked lost in the flow of the offense. He always seems do know what is going on when he is playing defense. Watch the part of the game that most don't take the time to look at.
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10/21/2009  5:17 AM
I think a lot of Gallo's problem when it comes to trying to drive by guys and also stop guys defensively is that at the moment he's not strong enough and not about a lack of talent. I think as he gets stronger you will see him go to the line even more, and he already goes to the line more than anyone on this team. He just has a knack for drawing fouls.

Personally last night the fact that he kept going back at Paul Pierce and was obvoiusly aggravated and annoyed and not intimidated should be a very good sign to most of us. But I"m sure it's not
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I am starting to worry about Gallo

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