Posted by Pharzeone:

Posted by djsunyc:

Posted by sebstar:

Posted by King1:

Jordan Hill is a little better than Ronnie Turiaf. He is very raw offensively and has no feel for the game which will kill him once the season starts

Oh my god, dude.

damn seb...PULL IT TOGETHER MAN!!!

ROFL.

first of all that little boy need to man up. I know that video. He got hurt feelings.

But about me, man IM UNDER PRESSURE, DOG. I got these bytch ass laker fans comin at my neck all day talking about how sorry the Knicks are and I cant say a cotdamn thing back.

Like I said I hated the pick and I havent seen ANYTHING to prove me otherwise.

I'm almost distraught. PLEASE DEAR GOD!

Posted by sebstar:

Posted by Pharzeone:

Posted by djsunyc:

Posted by sebstar:

Posted by King1:

Jordan Hill is a little better than Ronnie Turiaf. He is very raw offensively and has no feel for the game which will kill him once the season starts

Oh my god, dude.

damn seb...PULL IT TOGETHER MAN!!!

ROFL.

first of all that little boy need to man up. I know that video. He got hurt feelings.

But about me, man IM UNDER PRESSURE, DOG. I got these bytch ass laker fans comin at my neck all day talking about how sorry the Knicks are and I cant say a cotdamn thing back.

Like I said I hated the pick and I havent seen ANYTHING to prove me otherwise.

I'm almost distraught. PLEASE DEAR GOD!

of course they're coming at you...STOP WEARING YOUR WEATHERSPOON THROWBACK!!!

Posted by djsunyc:

Posted by Knicksfan:

This is beyond hilarious! Hahaha!

Some here should take Knicks vacations until the season starts.

And to think that some wanted rebuilding. Knicks fans can't handle rebuilding.

Great image to represent this thread. That I agree.

Posted by sebstar:

Posted by Knicksfan:

This is beyond hilarious! Hahaha!

Some here should take Knicks vacations until the season starts.

And to think that some wanted rebuilding. Knicks fans can't handle rebuilding.

I can handle rebuilding. What I cant handle is Charles Smith's little ass baby swipe cousin. Thats what I cant handle.

I dont expect a draft pick to come out like HOF with no warts. There is a growing, maturation process that I am well aware of. But getting slapped around in summer league? And you're coming into the league with a reputation of being soft and unskilled. OH SHYT!

Let's at least wait until preseason before we jump to conclusions. Hill has a nice trajectory of solid play in college. His play in summer league has been mediocre at best, but that's what, three games? Many factors have to be included in the analysis, like adjustment period, getting in shape, the fact that summer league isn't even close to organized NBA game.

Let's just wait and see how they adjust to the league. This showing doesn't pump me up but I won't declare them busts after three summer league games. People here change their minds too easily and react instead of analyzing cautiously.

Posted by Knicksfan:

This is beyond hilarious! Hahaha!

Some here should take Knicks vacations until the season starts.

And to think that some wanted rebuilding. Knicks fans can't handle rebuilding.

It would be nice to get an 8th pick that showed a tad more promise. He is a 3 year player at AZ--hes playing no where near the level he played there against the next level of competition. Dejuan Blair would give me more hope than both of these guys if we took him at 29.
This thing about system players doesnt make sense--how about some good players?
I don't know why they didnt take Derozan once Evans and Curry were gone--they said they had Jordan Hill ranked the third best player---is it the same scouts that had Channing Frye 1?

Its OK to rebuild but you have to draft well. Jordan Hill has been very disappointing--after scking for 10 years--you really think these performances from Hill are making people smile--OH yes just relax he just started playing basketball

The sad thing is there wasn't even this much negativity here at any point during the Isiah Era. Kinda tells you something.

Posted by GKFv2:

The sad thing is there wasn't even this much negativity here at any point during the Isiah Era. Kinda tells you something.

Enough is enough bro. There is no more room for wasted draft picks.

Posted by sebstar:

Posted by GKFv2:

The sad thing is there wasn't even this much negativity here at any point during the Isiah Era. Kinda tells you something.

Enough is enough bro. There is no more room for wasted draft picks.

Wait 2 years and make this statement. You ever heard of jumping the gun? Because that's what you're doing? Were you dissing guys like Balkman and Frye so quickly? I don't think so. Give Hill the same time you gave them and if he turns into the same crap then I'll join you in insulting him. Nobody in this draft besides Griffin is going to come in ready to play and dominate. Nobody. That includes people drafted before and after Hill. Just because he is struggling now doesn't mean he will struggle in the future. If he says the work ethic they say he does then he will work hard on his game and get better. Insulting him now for no reason doesn't really do anything. He's played 3 summer league games. That's not enough to judge the future of an NBA player. He's not going to be a superstar so temper your expectations. If you're aiming for the future Brian Grant then you will see progress in due time.

[Edited by - GKFv2 on 07-17-2009 9:23 PM]

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by Knicksfan:

This is beyond hilarious! Hahaha!

Some here should take Knicks vacations until the season starts.

And to think that some wanted rebuilding. Knicks fans can't handle rebuilding.

It would be nice to get an 8th pick that showed a tad more promise. He is a 3 year player at AZ--hes playing no where near the level he played there against the next level of competition. Dejuan Blair would give me more hope than both of these guys if we took him at 29.
This thing about system players doesnt make sense--how about some good players?
I don't know why they didnt take Derozan once Evans and Curry were gone--they said they had Jordan Hill ranked the third best player---is it the same scouts that had Channing Frye 1?

Its OK to rebuild but you have to draft well. Jordan Hill has been very disappointing--after scking for 10 years--you really think these performances from Hill are making people smile--OH yes just relax he just started playing basketball

You've been one of the few that has talked abou how Hill was the right pick and that he will be solid. Three summer league games and you change your mind? A little consistency would be welcomed.

Posted by sebstar:

You didnt say SHYT GKF. What exactly have you seen in Hill that suggests he ill be any good? You cant talk in riddles or talk about patience. I want something concrete!

How the hell do you know who will be good and who will be bad? You have the credentials of a scout now? You BRIGGS' brother? I'm going by game tape and scouting reports. He's not going to be a great player. I know this and hope a lot of other people do. Neither will the people after Hill be great players. He was the BPA at where we drafted, end of story. He is going to be solid. He's got the work ethic. He doesn't have his legs under him. Once he gets that and develops upper body strength he'll be more of a force. He is mechanical down there but he's got the moves. I don't look at the box scores and determine whether a player can play. I see what he can do on the court. He was very good on D out there today. He had 12 boards and blocked a shot. He hustles out there so it'll make up for that lost skill. He's got the athletic ability and the work ethic to be very good. I don't he will be very good. I also don't think he will be Mikki Moore. Somewhere in the middle. And for FFS, watch a game first. You're going by posts in a topic. What's the point of arguing with you? I'm done here.

Posted by GKFv2:

Posted by sebstar:

You didnt say SHYT GKF. What exactly have you seen in Hill that suggests he ill be any good? You cant talk in riddles or talk about patience. I want something concrete!

How the hell do you know who will be good and who will be bad? You have the credentials of a scout now? You BRIGGS' brother? I'm going by game tape and scouting reports. He's not going to be a great player. I know this and hope a lot of other people do. Neither will the people after Hill be great players. He was the BPA at where we drafted, end of story. He is going to be solid. He's got the work ethic. He doesn't have his legs under him. Once he gets that and develops upper body strength he'll be more of a force. He is mechanical down there but he's got the moves. I don't look at the box scores and determine whether a player can play. I see what he can do on the court. He was very good on D out there today. He had 12 boards and blocked a shot. He hustles out there so it'll make up for that lost skill. He's got the athletic ability and the work ethic to be very good. I don't he will be very good. I also don't think he will be Mikki Moore. Somewhere in the middle. And for FFS, watch a game first. You're going by posts in a topic. What's the point of arguing with you? I'm done here.

how do you know he's not going to be a great player?