Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by Bippity10:

Remember when I argued with Bobo for four days about Tim Duncan? This is how it starts.

That Bobo was a pretty knowledgeable guy.. wish he'd post more often

Were you around for the whole "Tim Duncan is garbage" thread of the summer of 2003 or the "Ray Allen is not a consistent shooter like Allan Houston" thread shortly thereafter? Or the "Tim Duncan isn't any good because he can't hit 3's? thread"

Jason thompson and david lee would have become a good two man attack and we would have a lot more wins then we have now. Jason thompson would have given david lee a break meaning he didn't have to be only one to get rebounds he would had some help. Like said before Jason thompson has shown more flashes then Gallanari has shown me.

Posted by Pharzeone:

Posted by Bippity10:

Posted by lumbardar:

I like what mike danatoni is doing but we are not going to the playoffs we are going come up short bippity10.

Why did you single me out. YOu got a problem with me. You want to fight or something?

I would like to fight you Bip and take away your lunch money.

Again?

Posted by lumbardar:

Kevin love has 20 double doubles
Greg Oden has 16 double doubles
Mark Gasol has 15 double doubles
Brook Lopes has 13 double doubles
Jason thompson the guy that we should have drafted has 9 double doubles

dude, he's not a rebounding pf. he's a tall, scoring/creating sf.

PresIke, how was Gordon perceived as a "sure thing" He was described on this forum alone as a short fat kid. Gallo was already projected for the power forward spot by the GM on draft night and he wasn't suppose to be a project based on his EL days which were described as a better version of the NCAA. I think we are being a little naive here. Also Chandler didn't just emerged. He wasn't played by Isiah until late in the season when he started to have big games but people were saying that it was meaningless games. Chandler had a good summer league before his rookie season. You also had Balkman and Jeffries on the team at the time. That's why Walsh made clear that Gallinari would be a power forward when asked by the media "why take another small forward"

Welcome to the board lumbardar.

Posted by lumbardar:

It is very pitful that Gallanari is seven foot and can't even rebound that is very bad. Hedo from magic can rebound and dish so can kirelenko of the jazz can rebound and dish. There both small fowards and they can do it both.

I think he doesn't like too much contact. On occassion I saw him go in for a hard fought rebound. I think he is starting to play with a little more toughness. Normally he likes to get the positional rebound. He lets Lee and Chandler fight for those hard to get rebounds. He isn't being coached up right now in my opinion. Hopefully with him staying stateside this summer, they will get it into his head that he is 6'10 and should be in there fighting. He is stronger than he realize.

Posted by lumbardar:

It is very pitful that Gallanari is seven foot...

do you believe that repeating the same falsehood will eventually make it so?

he's 6'9"-6'10"

Posted by PresIke:

Posted by lumbardar:

Wilson Chandler was our small foward of the future thats why we drafted him in 2007 not to get another small foward in 2008 draft. Wilson Chandler has more upside then gallanari will ever have. Wilson chandler can do it all he rebounds,steals, plays solid defense and fills up the stat sheet. Even last year in limited playing time i knew this kid was going to be special.

a lot of us liked wilson last year (me included, and our own misterearl even coined the nickname 'the mayor' in his honor last season) but he did not play that much and clearly the knicks were not as certain he would be good enough to fill the sf spot.

wilson's offensive game last year was much rawer. he improved over the summer, let's be real here.

gallo was considered a unique player because of his size and skill set.

why did they draft him then? because he knew d'antoni's father?

that doesn't seem like a very sound business decision where we spend a top 6 pick in the lotto for a team in desperate need of help everywhere, really.

how do you know wilson has more upside than gallo?

i think they both have upside, but i think gallo (if healthy) may have more because of his attitude, and i am a big mayor fan.

the knicks, i believe, think so too.

I don't think Gallo's upside will be as great because of his lack of athleticism. His stroke can keep him in this league but if you change coaches or if he moves to another team without an understanding support system, I don't think he even stays in the NBA. Some coaches are disgusted by big men who like to play on the perimeter.

Posted by Pharzeone:

PresIke, how was Gordon perceived as a "sure thing" He was described on this forum alone as a short fat kid. Gallo was already projected for the power forward spot by the GM on draft night and he wasn't suppose to be a project based on his EL days which were described as a better version of the NCAA. I think we are being a little naive here. Also Chandler didn't just emerged. He wasn't played by Isiah until late in the season when he started to have big games but people were saying that it was meaningless games. Chandler had a good summer league before his rookie season. You also had Balkman and Jeffries on the team at the time. That's why Walsh made clear that Gallinari would be a power forward when asked by the media "why take another small forward"

i didn't say "sure thing" i said "ready."

there's a difference. short fat kid?

i saw him play and never said or thought such a thing. i was pretty high on him (as the record can show), but i had reservations.

he wasn't fat he was/is strong.

short for his position? yes.

but he was physically ready for the nba, strength wise (of which gallo is not, yet), and had the tools as a scorer and defender to make an impact right away.

what some people on this forum says doesn't make it true or even close to what nba scouts thought of gordon.

go check the draftexpress profile:
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Eric-Gordon-328/

Strengths:

- Ability to get to free throw line
- Scoring instincts
- Commitment to playing defense
- Lateral quickness
- Work ethic
- Ability to finish through contact
- Athleticism
- Excellent first step
- Low center of gravity
- Strength
- Ability to come off screens
- NBA 3-point range
- Perimeter shooting ability
- Pull-up jumper
- Quick release

Weaknesses:

- Shot-selection
- Turnover prone
- Ball-handling skills
- Ability to defend position at next level?
- Tweener?
- Ability to create for others
- Size for position
- Undersized
- Poor rebounder


no where does it say anything about being "fat" and several of his strengths made him ready for the nba more than gallo, who was considered more of a project. mike breen in the last clippers game discussed this at length, and said the knicks felt gordon was more ready to play right away, but felt gallo had unique potential.

are we really going to rehash the same exact arguments we had ad nauseum on these boards the weeks following the draft about Gallo? how about just watching the kid play & hoping for the best?