Posted by Allanfan20:

You weren't blinded by optimism, but at the same time, it took most fans a very short time to realize that Isiah was a bad GM. I think most people were getting sick of him by the time he traded for Mo Taylor. What does that have to do with Gallinari though. My point is you know very little about him. Neither do the people who are blindly optimistic about him. Therefore, it's way too early to be calling him a bust or a star or a middle of the pack player, b/c none of us know.

What I personally know, is that he showed a lot of good signs tonight. He showed he can be a player in this league. At the same time, he showed he needs to work a lot, if he wants to be somebody. It's all up to him.

I like him. I have hopes for him. I have no expectations though, because I really don't know what to expect. Lets see how (And if) he improves after this season.

Fair?

That's fair. But every time someone lowers the expectations or makes proclamations that he's "special", I get to call him Il Bustino and basically ridicule the notion.

Deal?

Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by islesfan:

Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by islesfan:

Posted by Allanfan20:

B/c you witnessed him be a douchebag before he came to the Knicks. You witnessed Galinari in no sense, before he came to the NBA.

So why was I one of the few who understood what he was seeing?

Only you would be throwing **** at Gallinari after today. I dunno Isles.. not sure what to think about you anymore.

Yes, I don't think that Gallinari has done anything that would warrant the use of the word "special" to describe him, that means I'm throwing **** at him.

Isles, you have several posts that are throwing **** all over Gallinari including:

Box score numbers from Channing Frye's 2nd game as a Knick seemed solid. 23 minutes, 6 rebs, 2 asts, 0 stl, 1 block with 6 of 12 shooting.

Gallinari is threatening to be another Channing Frye.

Yeah I would say you're throwing **** at him.

Come on man, how long have you known me? When I throw ****, you know I'm throwing ****. That's just me being ironic and funny.

Posted by martin:

Posted by djsunyc:

isn't it alot more fun to just sit back and watch how he develops instead of microanalyzing every little thing 2 games into his nba career?

I think we should all compare him to Bargnani in every facet of the game.

why would you do that to the kid? that could crush him...

Posted by islesfan:

Posted by Allanfan20:

You weren't blinded by optimism, but at the same time, it took most fans a very short time to realize that Isiah was a bad GM. I think most people were getting sick of him by the time he traded for Mo Taylor. What does that have to do with Gallinari though. My point is you know very little about him. Neither do the people who are blindly optimistic about him. Therefore, it's way too early to be calling him a bust or a star or a middle of the pack player, b/c none of us know.

What I personally know, is that he showed a lot of good signs tonight. He showed he can be a player in this league. At the same time, he showed he needs to work a lot, if he wants to be somebody. It's all up to him.

I like him. I have hopes for him. I have no expectations though, because I really don't know what to expect. Lets see how (And if) he improves after this season.

Fair?

That's fair. But every time someone lowers the expectations or makes proclamations that he's "special", I get to call him Il Bustino and basically ridicule the notion.

Deal?

That's fair. The people who call him a future star or someone special should be made fun of, just as you are being made fun of. I don't think many people are calling him a future star though b/c none of us know.

gallinari is special...looking. looks like my man has a little corky in him...

Posted by islesfan:



You mean other than having to sit out 6 months because of a back injury sustained from minimal contact in a summer league game?

I prefer hatter.

What gets me annoyed is that you can make a stupid comment like the one above, with absolutely no info to back it up, and somehow think that you know what you are talking about.

Read up on the kind of injury it was and how you get it before you make ignorant comments.

Do some of your own research and maybe you will see that some of the recent talk about the disc injury being related to poor weight training might just have some medical backing.

That, however, would mean that you could not go on about "damaged good," "soft Europeans," il bustino (or whatever some of you guys game up with), etc.

Ignorance may be bliss for you, but it makes for boring reading when you have to see it time and time again.


[Edited by - Paladin55 on 01-19-2009 7:04 PM]

Damn, I go out and do some community service today and I find you guys attacking Isles about Gallinari. To back up Isles a number of posters indicated that the guy was special so stop this ridiculous notion that you never heard anything like that before.

Gallinari can shoot the 3 and has ball handling skills. I am not sure if that is what you want from your 6'10 player but everyone can make their own call. From the highlights I saw today, he had a good game. I will wait on his "development" while keeping an eye on other "development" as well. Hey it's not like this is something new about the Knicks ****ing up a draft pick before so he fails to live up to the hype it won't be a shock it will be more for the course exactly.

Man up, it is just a person's opinion. You are still allowed to have thoughs aren't you?

Posted by TMS:

Posted by Pharzeone:

To back up Isles a number of posters indicated that the guy was special

first of all, only 1 person here attacking isles on his comments... the rest of us are asking him what his justifications are for his opinions, just like you do on other threads about MDA... second, i only saw 1 person refer to Gallo as "special", so please enough w/the exaggerations.

There was a thread about Gallinari comparisons done after the draft. If Bip had that damn search function going, I would rub your nose in it. Larry Bird was rolling over in his grave at how many times his name was used.

It's not just about having an opinion. To me I find it sad that there seems to be no objectivity in some posts about Gallo. We've had to sit back and listen to the bashing until now and when any of us who liked the pick of Gallo would call for patience we'd hear the same group of guys screamin about him being a bust.

Our owns picks in general get no respect from the home fans. Lee, Nate, Chandler and now Gallo aren't bad picks. We may argue about just how good they can be, but they are solid NBA talents and belong in this league. That being the case then NY doesn't have bad draft record in the last few years. Overall maybe yes, but we've gotten some yardage out of the draft these last few years, even with the few duds mixed in.

Posted by Pharzeone:

Posted by TMS:

Posted by Pharzeone:

To back up Isles a number of posters indicated that the guy was special

first of all, only 1 person here attacking isles on his comments... the rest of us are asking him what his justifications are for his opinions, just like you do on other threads about MDA... second, i only saw 1 person refer to Gallo as "special", so please enough w/the exaggerations.

There was a thread about Gallinari comparisons done after the draft. If Bip had that damn search function going, I would rub your nose in it. Larry Bird was rolling over in his grave at how many times his name was used.

i'm sure you could probably look up all the threads about Gallo being a bust before he even put on a Knicks uniform too while you're at it... again, chillax & watch him develop before putting any labels on the guy.

i don't see anyone fawning over this kid other than maybe 1 or 2 who've already said he's something special... the rest are just making observations about his game & how his talents might translate in this system... that's a lot more reasonable than proclaiming him to be a bust before even seeing him play a single NBA game.