Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by Uptown:
Posted by Pharzeone:
Uptown, you are missing my point. The season before the Celtics won people in Boston were calling for Rivers head saying he was an inept coach because of the losses. You indicated that it was ridiculous not to hire a 60 win coach over someone with no experience and I said D'Antoni won in PHX because he had better players. Without those players look at D'Antoni's record in Denver and his first year in PHX. They are in par with is current record with the Knicks.
I'm not disagreeing with you here. This is a players league. You need the players to win. MDA had a poor record in Denver with a poor roster. Larry Brown had a poor record with this same organization.
But you can go down the list of all great coaches and find they had great players in thier system. Phil Jackson went from Jordan and Pippen to Kobe and Shaq. With the exception of Pippen, all of those guys won the MVP award at one point in tier career's. What do you think he would do with this roster?
Riley won his rings with Magic, Kareem, Shaq and Wade. Woth the exception of Wade, all of them won the MVP award at one point. Pop won his rings with Duncan and Robinson, both former MVP's. Rudy T won with Hakeem, league MVP.....Doc Rivers won with KG, former league MVP.......its a players league. In fact, you need to get yourself an MVP calibre player to get into the championship conversation.
[Edited by - uptown on 01-02-2009 10:32 PM]
I wouldn't say that of Riley because he has been effective with less than stellar players. He has adjusted to his players. I don't believe D'Antoni is capable of this and he backs me up when he said at the beginning of the season that the players have to adjust to him vs. him adjusting to them.
I'm not 100% sure he cant adjust. I think we need to give him more time (3 years or so) and better player before we cast judement of his run here. Keep in mind, with Curry out, we are a very small team with no post players. I think trying to get open court buckets is the way to go with this small unit because as I said, we have no players who can consistantly play in the pain on either end.
We've seen plenty of coaches who have a set system and strongly believe in that system. Nothing wrong with that so long as you get the right players for that system. Coaches who have pretty much a set system would include the afforementioned Larry Brown, Van Gundy, George Karl, Don Nelson,Phil Jackson with the Triangle and even on a college level with Roy Williams, Coach K, John Chaney etc.
Again nothing wrong with have a set system that ypu believe in, but you need to get the right pieces. Hopefully Walsh can help him get the right pieces with the main piece being an MVP callibre player if we plan on watching games at the garden in june anytime soon.
1/2/2009 10:11 PM
