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oohah
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1/31/2009  1:19 PM
Since this is the way, the Knicks could get one of the two compensations available in this case. After the press conference, I have no doubt that there should be no problem getting one of those.

I hope you don't think like this anymore, Knicksfan.

oohah

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1/31/2009  1:20 PM
If I had a dollar for everytime somebody called their views "realistic" I'd be living in Scarsdale Weschester or some place like that. Just because you say it's realistic doesn't make it realistic, and we've made the arguement about this trade and the situation A LOT, so since it's old news, there's no point in going back to it.
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1/31/2009  1:31 PM
Hey everyone, oohah hasn't posted in a while but he's back to gloat over being right about Mobley's medical exception. Everyone give him his proper due please.
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1/31/2009  1:49 PM
Posted by oohah:

I have never ever liked Cuttino Mobley, and I never really wanted to see him a Knick.

However, I think the team, Walsh in specific is doing him dirty.

Walsh makes 2 huge trades in one day then reportedly acts like he didn't know that Mobley had a heart condition and tries to get more from the clippers. I think that is buyer's remorse.

Then it seems like he/the Knicks are doing all they can do to not let him suit up. Mobley already signed a waiver in Houston. He's been playing for 11 years. He is a man and it is his life.

I don't believe that this heart issue was news to Walsh when Mobley took his physical. I feel like they are toying with this man's career and life to save some money. In addition, he can actually help this team regardless of the fact that he is no great player. They are sabotaging his career. How can this be the right way to behave?

Is there something I am not getting here?

This leaves me with a very bad taste...

Great, he was right about one thing, while wrong about everything else: http://www.nba.com/knicks/news/mobley_retires121108.html
"The specialists I have seen made it clear that my heart condition has gotten worse, and I cannot continue to play professional basketball without putting my health and life in serious danger," Mobley said. "As much as I want to keep playing in the NBA, I have no choice but to follow the advice of my doctors and step away from the League. I have had the privilege of playing in the NBA for 10 years, but my health and family must come first, and it is time to move on to the next stage in my life."

So, Mobley didn't know he had a heart condition which would force him to end his career, but Walsh did? Yes, the Knicks sabotaged Mobley's career. Looking at the quote above, it's obvious. Or just obvious that oohah was totally wrong about all of that. Sorry about the bump, but oohah actually sounds serious.
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Great, he was right about one thing, while wrong about everything else: http://www.nba.com/knicks/news/mobley_retires121108.html

I was right about everything.
So, Mobley didn't know he had a heart condition which would force him to end his career, but Walsh did? Yes, the Knicks sabotaged Mobley's career. Looking at the quote above, it's obvious. Or just obvious that oohah was totally wrong about all of that. Sorry about the bump, but oohah actually sounds serious.

The only problem with the statement bolded above is that it is ridiculous, inane, and doesn't even relate to what I wrote. Outside of that it has very tight logic!

Were you aware that Mobley had been playing with Knowledge of his heart condition for nearly his entire playing career? Okay, now I'm done shooting holes all through your "Mobley didn't know..." nonsense, now for the rest:

1) The Knicks knew that Mobley had a (possibly) life-threatening heart condition, and had an idea about the extent of it due to the physical he took before they pulled the trigger on the trade.

2) They decided to trade for him anyway and immediately started doing everything they could to declare him medically ineligible, which coincidentally they tried to spin into a 4.5 million dollar exception! (Which by the way, was exactly the opposite of what happened with Eddie Curry.)

Do you understand yet? I'm sorry if the chain of events eludes you. I would think that it is "obvious". Maybe you're kidding? Sorry about the bump but you actually sound serious.

oohah


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2/1/2009  12:12 PM
You're still the best oohah, don't ever change!
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2/1/2009  1:02 PM
Posted by oohah:
Great, he was right about one thing, while wrong about everything else: http://www.nba.com/knicks/news/mobley_retires121108.html

I was right about everything.
So, Mobley didn't know he had a heart condition which would force him to end his career, but Walsh did? Yes, the Knicks sabotaged Mobley's career. Looking at the quote above, it's obvious. Or just obvious that oohah was totally wrong about all of that. Sorry about the bump, but oohah actually sounds serious.

The only problem with the statement bolded above is that it is ridiculous, inane, and doesn't even relate to what I wrote. Outside of that it has very tight logic!

Were you aware that Mobley had been playing with Knowledge of his heart condition for nearly his entire playing career? Okay, now I'm done shooting holes all through your "Mobley didn't know..." nonsense, now for the rest:

1) The Knicks knew that Mobley had a (possibly) life-threatening heart condition, and had an idea about the extent of it due to the physical he took before they pulled the trigger on the trade.

2) They decided to trade for him anyway and immediately started doing everything they could to declare him medically ineligible, which coincidentally they tried to spin into a 4.5 million dollar exception! (Which by the way, was exactly the opposite of what happened with Eddie Curry.)

Do you understand yet? I'm sorry if the chain of events eludes you. I would think that it is "obvious". Maybe you're kidding? Sorry about the bump but you actually sound serious.

oohah

Are you saying that Walsh forced Mobley to retire even though Mobley could still play? How could he do that? According to Mobley the doctors told him that his conditioned had worsened and that he couldn't play without putting his life in serious risk. Are you saying that Walsh told the Doctors to lie to Mobley and say his condition was worse than it really was and that they did so at Walsh's request? Why would those doctors risk getting their licenses revoked for Walsh?
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2/1/2009  1:23 PM
Posted by SlimPack:
Posted by oohah:
Great, he was right about one thing, while wrong about everything else: http://www.nba.com/knicks/news/mobley_retires121108.html

I was right about everything.
So, Mobley didn't know he had a heart condition which would force him to end his career, but Walsh did? Yes, the Knicks sabotaged Mobley's career. Looking at the quote above, it's obvious. Or just obvious that oohah was totally wrong about all of that. Sorry about the bump, but oohah actually sounds serious.

The only problem with the statement bolded above is that it is ridiculous, inane, and doesn't even relate to what I wrote. Outside of that it has very tight logic!

Were you aware that Mobley had been playing with Knowledge of his heart condition for nearly his entire playing career? Okay, now I'm done shooting holes all through your "Mobley didn't know..." nonsense, now for the rest:

1) The Knicks knew that Mobley had a (possibly) life-threatening heart condition, and had an idea about the extent of it due to the physical he took before they pulled the trigger on the trade.

2) They decided to trade for him anyway and immediately started doing everything they could to declare him medically ineligible, which coincidentally they tried to spin into a 4.5 million dollar exception! (Which by the way, was exactly the opposite of what happened with Eddie Curry.)

Do you understand yet? I'm sorry if the chain of events eludes you. I would think that it is "obvious". Maybe you're kidding? Sorry about the bump but you actually sound serious.

oohah

Are you saying that Walsh forced Mobley to retire even though Mobley could still play? How could he do that? According to Mobley the doctors told him that his conditioned had worsened and that he couldn't play without putting his life in serious risk. Are you saying that Walsh told the Doctors to lie to Mobley and say his condition was worse than it really was and that they did so at Walsh's request? Why would those doctors risk getting their licenses revoked for Walsh?

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2/1/2009  1:23 PM
Posted by SlimPack:
Posted by oohah:
Great, he was right about one thing, while wrong about everything else: http://www.nba.com/knicks/news/mobley_retires121108.html

I was right about everything.
So, Mobley didn't know he had a heart condition which would force him to end his career, but Walsh did? Yes, the Knicks sabotaged Mobley's career. Looking at the quote above, it's obvious. Or just obvious that oohah was totally wrong about all of that. Sorry about the bump, but oohah actually sounds serious.

The only problem with the statement bolded above is that it is ridiculous, inane, and doesn't even relate to what I wrote. Outside of that it has very tight logic!

Were you aware that Mobley had been playing with Knowledge of his heart condition for nearly his entire playing career? Okay, now I'm done shooting holes all through your "Mobley didn't know..." nonsense, now for the rest:

1) The Knicks knew that Mobley had a (possibly) life-threatening heart condition, and had an idea about the extent of it due to the physical he took before they pulled the trigger on the trade.

2) They decided to trade for him anyway and immediately started doing everything they could to declare him medically ineligible, which coincidentally they tried to spin into a 4.5 million dollar exception! (Which by the way, was exactly the opposite of what happened with Eddie Curry.)

Do you understand yet? I'm sorry if the chain of events eludes you. I would think that it is "obvious". Maybe you're kidding? Sorry about the bump but you actually sound serious.

oohah

Are you saying that Walsh forced Mobley to retire even though Mobley could still play? How could he do that? According to Mobley the doctors told him that his conditioned had worsened and that he couldn't play without putting his life in serious risk. Are you saying that Walsh told the Doctors to lie to Mobley and say his condition was worse than it really was and that they did so at Walsh's request? Why would those doctors risk getting their licenses revoked for Walsh?

Well, the Knicks' medical staff isn't exactly qualified...
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2/1/2009  2:59 PM
Posted by oohah:
Great, he was right about one thing, while wrong about everything else: http://www.nba.com/knicks/news/mobley_retires121108.html

I was right about everything.
So, Mobley didn't know he had a heart condition which would force him to end his career, but Walsh did? Yes, the Knicks sabotaged Mobley's career. Looking at the quote above, it's obvious. Or just obvious that oohah was totally wrong about all of that. Sorry about the bump, but oohah actually sounds serious.

The only problem with the statement bolded above is that it is ridiculous, inane, and doesn't even relate to what I wrote. Outside of that it has very tight logic!

Were you aware that Mobley had been playing with Knowledge of his heart condition for nearly his entire playing career? Okay, now I'm done shooting holes all through your "Mobley didn't know..." nonsense, now for the rest:

1) The Knicks knew that Mobley had a (possibly) life-threatening heart condition, and had an idea about the extent of it due to the physical he took before they pulled the trigger on the trade.

2) They decided to trade for him anyway and immediately started doing everything they could to declare him medically ineligible, which coincidentally they tried to spin into a 4.5 million dollar exception! (Which by the way, was exactly the opposite of what happened with Eddie Curry.)

Do you understand yet? I'm sorry if the chain of events eludes you. I would think that it is "obvious". Maybe you're kidding? Sorry about the bump but you actually sound serious.

oohah

From Mobley's own mouth (and in the quote I linked): "The specialists I have seen made it clear that my heart condition has gotten worse, and I cannot continue to play professional basketball without putting my health and life in serious danger."

So he didn't know that his condition had gotten worse, to the point that it was life-threatening to continue to play basketball. If he had, he wouldn't have ever signed the waiver. Instead, he would have retired. We know this because that's exactly what he did. So again, if he didn't know that his condition was so poor, how would the Knicks? This was always the point: illnesses can progress into something worse. The condition of the heart that he played with earlier on during his career is different than the condition of his heart now.

Further, by his own words, he went to specialists, doctors NOT affiliated with the Knicks. How then did the Knicks have anything to do with his retirement when he was visiting numerous independent specialists?
Mobley to retire - update

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