Posted by Rookie:

Posted by Knicksfan:

Posted by Rookie:

Posted by TMS:

last night they showed clips of D'Antoni coaching the game & all he was doing was telling guys to D up & rotate on guys... i think his reputation for never stressing defense is severely overblown.

On a night where they had no energy, whats the point of asking them to play harder on D which forces them to expend more energy than they have? Was it so the blow out wouldn't look as bad on paper?

LOL everything is wrong for you man

Nah, it's all good. I just feel like bitching a little. Losing sucks, getting blown out blows...Harrington's smackdown on the King...Priceless!!

I know man, I hate it too. Can only wait for the best. But Harrington's play on LeBron made me happy last night. And the explanation he gave indeed was priceless. We need more guys willing to do that. Haven't you noticed how many charges he has caused since he got here? The guy does seem motivated to be here and thats refreshing.

Posted by islesfan:

Posted by martin:

Posted by islesfan:

I'm not defending Curry for who he is. I'm just saying that he has more trade value when he's playing and putting up 15&7 than when he's getting DNP-CDed. I'm sure you can agree with that.

D'Antoni is notorious for having short practices and Balkman exhibited effort on defense which of course doesn't count with D'Antoni. Like I said earlier, there was no role for him going into the season but minutes always open up as they're available now. If Balkman is going to succeed in any system it would have been D'Antoni's with the up and down style. It would have been interesting to see.

If Gallo rarely plays because of his back, does that mean we can't conclude anything?

What you orginally said about Curry was that the GM was destroying his value. If Curry were in shape and played within the MDA system and averaged 15&7 and the coach chose to DNP his fat ass, then I would agree that the GM and coach were destroying his value, but that is far from what is happening. Do you agree with that?

Dude, feel free to watch a few Knicks games, catch the Portland game. If you don't think the coach is not stressing defense you are not watching.

Can't conclude anything about Gallo right now. If we find out that his career is done after the year or whatever, then we conclude.

It depends on what your definition of "in shape" is. Was Curry in drastically different shape than he's been in the past when he's averaged between 15-18 pts? Was D'Antoni holding Curry to a much higher standard that, for Curry, would be near impossible to achieve? Could it be that D'Antoni just doesn't want Curry around because he's a horrible fit for his system? If that's the case, and I believe that it is, what is Walsh's role in that?

Posted by martin:

Curry came "in shape" into training camp and then abruptly sat out for that entire training camp bedridden and recovering from a bacterial infection. He was so bedridden and sick he had to get IVs administered by doctors back at the hotel. He played 3 short preseason games and looked lost. After 2 games he came up lame because of a bone bruise and a month later is still out and not getting a lick better because of something that happened a month prior.

I think Walsh and MDA orchestrated the whole bacterial infection thing and missing out on learning a new system during training camp thing so that they could purposely de-value their center.

That was the plan.

Isles, you have never been able to get past what is right in front of you to make a sensible argument.

I'm curious who you would have signed for minimum salary that would have been so much better than Roberson.

Posted by Rookie:

Posted by martin:

^I give an 'F' on this post.

Exhibit A - The Jason Kidd trade is paying major dividends for the Nets. This is a great example of how to handle a situation where your star guard becomes a sideshow distraction. They also turned their 2008 draft picks they recieved in this deal into gold. They became stronger through good management. Can you compare Thorn to Walsh?

Posted by islesfan:

Posted by martin:

Curry came "in shape" into training camp and then abruptly sat out for that entire training camp bedridden and recovering from a bacterial infection. He was so bedridden and sick he had to get IVs administered by doctors back at the hotel. He played 3 short preseason games and looked lost. After 2 games he came up lame because of a bone bruise and a month later is still out and not getting a lick better because of something that happened a month prior.

I think Walsh and MDA orchestrated the whole bacterial infection thing and missing out on learning a new system during training camp thing so that they could purposely de-value their center.

That was the plan.

Isles, you have never been able to get past what is right in front of you to make a sensible argument.

You're right, my bad. I forgot about the infection. But Curry was back playing by the end of training camp and well enough to play in those exhibition games. Then he was DNP-CDed in the first 2 games, while a rookie who sat out all of training camp and the exhibition games with a bad back, that still hasn't healed, was given minutes in both of those games. Kind of odd, don't you think?

You're right, I've never been able to see what is right in front of me, like those of you who were fooled by Isiah for years.