Posted by TMS:

Posted by Knicksfan:

Posted by Anji:

If trends continue, the knicks could make an all out push LBJ. Alot of things have to happen, but LBJ to the knicks could not be so far fetched.


It really would have helped move the process along if Mcgee was a knick instead of Danillo though.

Ahh, another one sees the light! Welcome to the believers of the 2010 plan. Feel free to photoshop and post any LeBron James in a Knicks uni any time.

Seriously, I do believe it can happen but its not just about getting cap relief, its about making intelligent trades that not only bring us expiring contracts but solid draft pics and young players with star or allstar potential. For Lebron to come here, we have to show him a solid group of players he can take to the ultimate level.

Right now It wouldn't be bad to keep a player like Zach on the team if you can still find other ways to get expiring contracts and young talent. Guys like Zach, Chandler, Duhon, Nate and Lee along with talented but less experienced players would be enough for Lebron to really consider the Knicks since he knows they aren't really in rebuilding because they have solid players to win now. A young center and probably a healthy Danillo would be nice.

In the end, I do believe the Knicks, with intelligent trades, can get in position to get a player like Lebron, Bosh etc.

[Edited by - knicksfan on 11-17-2008 11:45 PM]

After all this years of suffering, we deserve to see this really happen!

u know the chances are real slim that he'll end up a Knick & i'm sure the anti-2010 plan posse are just licking their chops til they get the chance to rag on everyone who ever supported the plan to begin with in 2 years... but personally i put up w/the same crap w/those who ragged on me when i wanted to tank the season when he came out in the draft to begin with & i still say that would have been the right move to make... no matter if we land Lebron or not, i wanna at least say we gave it an honest effort to be able to sign him & not just a lotta lip service to try & define a new plan for the post Isiah era.

I'll believe until 2010 arrives and we either land him or not. Chances are slim right now, but a couple of trades can make it really possible. But, as you say, we should do the best we can to get him, Bosh or any other big free agent out there. Maybe not Lebron, maybe not Bosh, but someone has to come here and become the Knicks star because to be what Walsh and D'Antoni want us to be, we need someone like that, along with a solid supporting cast, to ever be a championship contender. And its ALL about that!

Posted by TMS:

FANTASTIC! I was gonna ask if anyone could put him into a Knick uniform. TMS, this is the picture to make the case bro! Good job man.

I have no problem with an upgrade at the SF position. But if we do it at the expense of the salary cap because we think we are one non-star player away from a title I'm going to jump off a bridge. We've had enough of that type of thinking. NY needs a true star.

Wonderful World

Knicksfan - the (cough) "non-star" player that bippity refers to is a misnomer. There was never a suggestion that upgrading the three spot was the route to an immediate title. You upgrade the three spot to maintain incremental progress by developing depth at a position where the Knicks are paper thin.

Without a doubt, the photoshopped images of a young Wise in orange and blue can make a blind New York hoops fan salivate. I would love Lebron on orange and blue. Jersey sales would break all existing records set by Michael Jordan in the last decade. His signing would be bigger than A-Rod, Johan Santana and Donald Trump combined. President Barack Obama would switch allegiance from the Bulls and become a courtside regular at The Garden. The heavens would open and there would be peace and prosperity for all mankind.

But hold up, "does Lebron love NY?"

Posted by misterearl:

Wonderful World

Knicksfan - the (cough) "non-star" player that bippity refers to is a misnomer. There was never a suggestion that upgrading the three spot was the route to an immediate title. You upgrade the three spot to maintain incremental progress by developing depth at a position where the Knicks are paper thin.

Without a doubt, the photoshopped images of a young Wise in orange and blue can make a blind New York hoops fan salivate. I would love Lebron on orange and blue. Jersey sales would break all existing records set by Michael Jordan in the last decade. His signing would be bigger than A-Rod, Johan Santana and Donald Trump combined. President Barack Obama would switch allegiance from the Bulls and become a courtside regular at The Garden. The heavens would open and there would be peace and prosperity for all mankind.

But hold up, "does Lebron love NY?"

PERFECT example!!!

15 or so

"Not so, says one Western Conference executive who is convinced James' exit from Cleveland is inevitable.

"My understanding is, he's out for sure," the executive said. "He'll run it out to free agency for sure, and Cleveland is definitely not the highest chance of the teams. Everyone that knows him and that he talks to privately says he wants to get out of there. Obviously, New York's been talked about, but there's going to be lots of teams with money that year, 15 or so."

Unless it's a sign-and-trade, LeBron could get more money from the Cavs than any other team. But the Knicks hold a decided edge over Cleveland and many other suitors because of the exposure and marketing opportunities the city offers, not to mention the presence of a successful, offense-friendly coach in D'Antoni.

"LeBron's a little different than the next cat," another team executive said. "He wants to be the world hoops icon. He wants to be Elvis. It limits him to big-market places: L.A., New York, Chicago or Miami."

Being championship-caliber is the only way Cleveland can keep him: LeBron doesn't want to be remembered as the guy who left his hometown on the brink of a championship without finishing the job.

Among the teams in markets that would be appealing to LeBron, the Bulls and Heat will have plenty of money available -- and potentially more attractive talent than the Knicks, who must have a contingency plan.

With some teams struggling financially and revenues expected to slide this season due to the economy, it is a fair bet that owners will let the CBA lapse after the 2010-11 season rather than extend it another year. Every player with an opt-out clause in 2010 -- as well as Kobe and Carlos Boozer in 2009 -- will be more inclined to get out while the gettin's still good.

"Guys may want to lock in a deal under the current rules," the Western Conference executive said. "With the future rules, you don't know exactly where they're going to go. Historically, they've gone the owners' way."

- Alan Hahn

Posted by Finestrg:

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by Finestrg:

Posted by BRIGGS:

Why don't we add Stephon Curry as the next PG and let all the other teams have the high flyers and the Ricky Rubio's and we can take the brains skills and bloodline.

If I'm gonna take an undersized shooter/scorer as a guard (listed at 6'3" but might be more like 6'1") that really doesn't have the good PG skills to run a club he better at least be a complete offensive player. This kid's a terrific little jumpshooter but in terms of being that complete scoring guard, I'm not sure he can really take his guy off the dribble consistently. What really seperates this kid from similar players right now? Does he have the height like his father did? Does he have the overall strength like an Eric Gordon has? Tell you what, he's probably not as good or as complete a player as Jerryd Bayless for example - I think Bayless has a much better NBA future IMHO. This kid's good and he & his team had a nice run in the Tourney, but I'm not so sure he'll ever be more than just a good complementary piece in the NBA at best. Have to take a closer look at this kid's overall game this season to see if he's made any progress toward becoming a more complete player. Tell you what though, how I see it - if we wind up in the lower part of the lottery he'd have to be an option for us if he's still there. But to be honest if we really rattle off some wins and wind up outside the lottery, somewhere in the middle of the 1st round, unlike Thabeet and some of the other primo talent, he wouldn't be a guy I'd try and trade up to get as of right now...

[Edited by - finestrg on 11-17-2008 10:35 PM]

This guy can play PG.

To me Stephen Curry's more of a run-the-floor scorer/spot up shooter that plays off the ball. He's small for a two and not known for his strength, ballhandling or PG skills. That's just fact. Shooting skills are certainly legit but there's just not enough to this kid to justify taking him with our pick next summer as of right now. Remember the criticisms a lot of people had with Eric Gordon & Jerryd Bayless? Expect the same if not more next summer come draft time with this kid. We need more than a complimentary piece out of this draft next summer (esp. considering Utah gets our pick in 2010), whether we stand pat with the pick or hopefully wind up trading up to get what we need - I'd be looking for a little more than what this kid has to offer. Speaking of Bayless, he's much more of a complete package than this kid by comparision when comparing two undersized scoring 2-guards that will be expected to also play some point in the NBA. Like I said last summer, Bayless IMO, has a chance to be another Tony Parker. I don't see that type of future for this kid. I hope I'm wrong...


[Edited by - finestrg on 11-17-2008 11:28 PM]

This guy is the second coming of Steve Nash but a better rebounder and defender. Why wouldnt we want that? Didnt Nash win 2 MVP's?

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 11-18-2008 12:36 PM]

Say What?

Anji - with all due respect, as you describe trading Eddy Curry and Jeffries as "simple", do you really think Walsh been beating back offers for two guys who haven't seen a single minute of floor time this season?

Lee is the most valuable trade asset (performance value to salary ratio) who can bring the best level of talent in return.

Hope he enjoys playing in Alameda County