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7/6/2008  9:07 PM
Posted by purple012870:

How about this? How about we watch the fckn guy & see what he has?

but then u can't say "I told u so" later if things pan out the way you want them to... that's the key.
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7/6/2008  9:09 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by Panos:
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Jesus, doesn't anybody have a sense of humor around here??? It's called sarcasm, I have used it before. A lot actually.

Come on, do you honestly believe that I hope he sucks?

Believing and hoping are two totally different things.

Alright, you're entitled to your opinion. But if you were hoping for it, then I really was going to feel more sorry for you wasting your time here than the hopeless optimists.

This franchise has turned a lot of their fans jaded. Why am I being singled out?

racial man... racial.
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7/6/2008  9:39 PM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by Panos:
Posted by islesfan:

Jesus, doesn't anybody have a sense of humor around here??? It's called sarcasm, I have used it before. A lot actually.

Come on, do you honestly believe that I hope he sucks?

Believing and hoping are two totally different things.

Alright, you're entitled to your opinion. But if you were hoping for it, then I really was going to feel more sorry for you wasting your time here than the hopeless optimists.

This franchise has turned a lot of their fans jaded. Why am I being singled out?

racial man... racial.


Nah, man, it ain't racial. It was just a random check.

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7/6/2008  9:46 PM
Posted by islesfan:

It's amazing what people get from fluff interviews and youtube HIGHLIGHT clips.

it sure is... i can't believe people can call this kid a bust before they even watch the guy play.
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7/7/2008  12:07 AM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by Panos:

btw, isles, I was upset too. But I hope I was wrong in being upset.

I believe that I'm going to be right about why I got upset.

Isles, your need to be right out weighs your love for the Knicks.


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7/7/2008  12:40 AM
All of this because of a simple interview. We desperately need the season to start.

Oh wait, we can't skip the next phase of the board: the discovery of many saviors and superstars in Summer League.

The nonsense is just getting started. Yay!
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7/7/2008  12:53 AM
Posted by Vmart:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by Panos:

btw, isles, I was upset too. But I hope I was wrong in being upset.

I believe that I'm going to be right about why I got upset.

Isles, your need to be right out weighs your love for the Knicks.

It's not a need to be right, I just happen to always be right. I can't help it.

I barely have any love for the Knicks right now. I've been jilted by them for far too long now. They have to prove that they deserve my affection. So far Walsh hasn't impressed me.
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7/7/2008  12:59 AM
Posted by Knicksfan:

All of this because of a simple interview. We desperately need the season to start.

Oh wait, we can't skip the next phase of the board: the discovery of many saviors and superstars in Summer League.

The nonsense is just getting started. Yay!

Pretty much.

misterearl can be counted on for at least 6 threads about Chandler's SL play.

There will be at least 5 "Nate is dominating SL again, is this finally the year he puts it all together?" threads, 3 "All these guys showed up for SL (in Vegas BTW) and seem committed to improve this year, especially Curry" threads and a few "They really seem to be taking to D'Antonio's System well" (even though SL is all about pickup run and gun) threads sprinkled in.

If it didn’t work in Phoenix with Nash and Stoutamire... it’s just not a winning formula. It’s an entertaining formula, but not a winning one. - Derek Harper talking about D'Antoni's System
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7/7/2008  1:06 AM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by Knicksfan:

All of this because of a simple interview. We desperately need the season to start.

Oh wait, we can't skip the next phase of the board: the discovery of many saviors and superstars in Summer League.

The nonsense is just getting started. Yay!

Pretty much.

misterearl can be counted on for at least 6 threads about Chandler's SL play.

There will be at least 5 "Nate is dominating SL again, is this finally the year he puts it all together?" threads, 3 "All these guys showed up for SL (in Vegas BTW) and seem committed to improve this year, especially Curry" threads and a few "They really seem to be taking to D'Antonio's System well" (even though SL is all about pickup run and gun) threads sprinkled in.

not to mention about 8 "This team still sucks" threads & 12 "D'alsh is no better than Isiah" threads in the same span... & that's not even counting the countless "We shoulda taken this guy instead of Gallinari threads" that are bound to pop up in the first few weeks of the season.

[Edited by - TMS on 07-06-2008 10:08 PM]
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7/7/2008  1:12 AM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by Knicksfan:

All of this because of a simple interview. We desperately need the season to start.

Oh wait, we can't skip the next phase of the board: the discovery of many saviors and superstars in Summer League.

The nonsense is just getting started. Yay!

Pretty much.

misterearl can be counted on for at least 6 threads about Chandler's SL play.

There will be at least 5 "Nate is dominating SL again, is this finally the year he puts it all together?" threads, 3 "All these guys showed up for SL (in Vegas BTW) and seem committed to improve this year, especially Curry" threads and a few "They really seem to be taking to D'Antonio's System well" (even though SL is all about pickup run and gun) threads sprinkled in.

not to mention about 8 "This team still sucks" threads & 12 "D'alsh is no better than Isiah" threads in the same span... & that's not even counting the countless "We shoulda taken this guy instead of Gallinari threads" that are bound to pop up in the first few weeks of the season.

[Edited by - TMS on 07-06-2008 10:08 PM]

Seriously. Shut down the site. This is getting too predictable.
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7/7/2008  1:18 AM
Posted by fishmike:
slow footed, stiff legged tweener forward
is your opinion, which is not even close to describing the kind of player he is. Although another guy that did pretty good with DAntoni was Boris Diaw, 6'8, tweener, slow for NBA, played center/sf/pf on a 55 win team.

Once again we get a lot of opinion, passed on as fact, with little or no substance to it. CNN-SI, ESPN, NBAdraft.net, DraftExpress, Yahoo all say its a good pick and he will be a good player. Funny how they all talk about his intenstity, versatility, proven performer in big games and crunch time, his size and superior skills, ability to play multiple positions, body control, physical game, gets the line, gets steals... yea, like that.

I'm sure an intense, versatile forward with PG skills, ability to draw fouls and range to shoot from anywhere wont fit under the best offensive coach in the NBA

Bayless wouldnt beat out Nate or Crawford next year.[Edited by - fishmike on 06-07-2008 7:08 PM]

I am sure that factored in walsh decision. for the record, bayless and arizona got spanked and bumped in the NCAA tourney, on in which many analyst felt they didn't deserve the selection.. Nate started for the #1 seed in the tourney along with Brandon roy, his team did pretty good... At arizona nate would have went wild there too...

when you look at it, is bayless better than nate and craw? who knows.. too close to pick him at #6
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7/7/2008  2:22 AM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by Knicksfan:

All of this because of a simple interview. We desperately need the season to start.

Oh wait, we can't skip the next phase of the board: the discovery of many saviors and superstars in Summer League.

The nonsense is just getting started. Yay!

Pretty much.

misterearl can be counted on for at least 6 threads about Chandler's SL play.

There will be at least 5 "Nate is dominating SL again, is this finally the year he puts it all together?" threads, 3 "All these guys showed up for SL (in Vegas BTW) and seem committed to improve this year, especially Curry" threads and a few "They really seem to be taking to D'Antonio's System well" (even though SL is all about pickup run and gun) threads sprinkled in.

haha..this is all so true
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7/7/2008  3:41 AM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by fishmike:


And no.. the scouting reports dont 'basically' stat what you have said. You have made him out to be some kind of Euro stiff thats got no shot of sticking in the NBA. Scouting reports basically that what he brings to the table makes him a foundation player

NBADraft.Net

"Athleticism and explosiveness are just average" + "Marginal foot speed and a weak body will leave his opponents salivating in excitement to abuse the mismatch" - slow footed

"His legs are stiff which makes his movements seem a bit awkward and it takes away from his quickness" - stiff legged

"Struggles dribbling the ball against physical defenders which hurts even more considering his blow by ability is limited" + "While he has good height, he is strictly a perimeter player as he has minimal back to the basket moves and his weak frame also makes him a non threat in the post" - tweener forward

On DraftExpress, his first 3 weaknesses are:

Quickness - slow footed
Explosiveness - stiff legged
Ability to defend NBA small forwards - tweener forward

I guess Gallinari basically sucks too.

NBADraft.net also compared Omar Cook to Jason Kidd and Kwame Brown to Kevin Garnett. Draft Express is a better source to use.
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7/7/2008  6:33 AM
Also from draftexpress.com
http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Roundup-Gallinari-Dominates/

Roundup: Gallinari Dominates
January 29, 2008
It’s becoming increasingly usual to see Danilo Gallinari producing almost at will regardless of who he goes up against. His skill repertoire, knowledge of the game and physical gifts propose a devastating equation that hardly anybody can consistently contest. Just consider that he’s living in the 20+ point mark for the last five games now, combining both the Euroleague and the Italian Lega. The run includes last week’s defeat against the Israeli powerhouse Maccabi Elite Tel Aviv, where Gallinari carried his team’s offensive load with 27 points, 4 rebounds and 3 steals, and the comfortable victory over Scavolini Spar Pesaro, that only required him to spend 26 minutes on court, but was still enough to come up with 20 points and 6 rebounds.

We could watch his Euroleague outing against Maccabi, a fantastic offensive show for him. He was the clear-cut go-to guy for his team, the one responsible for keeping them alive for much of the game, but unfortunately he didn’t emerge as clutch as he often does. Anyway, again his superb slashing ability was responsible of much of the damage he caused on his opponents, both in the form of layups/dunks and forced fouls that sent him to the stripe multiple times.

However, other stuff deserves attention too. Gallinari is a well-known solid shooter. Indeed he made a living off his perimeter stroke during his first year of serious veteran competition (in the Italian second division). In this game, it was interesting to see him creating his own shot in a pure face-up one-on-one setting, using a fake and a dribble to release a successful long-range bomb, but also from the low post with a turnaround jumper, cashing in off his size. He can be pretty quick displaying his mechanics, and he shows a great sense of timing to execute every move while always evaluating his match-up’s reaction. Indeed, he often makes opponents bite on his fakes, forcing many fouls in the process or just paving his way to the basket. That’s logically helped become the dual-threat that he is his with shooting and slashing abilities.

His body control also chimes in there. It’s funny, because at first sight you might get the feeling that his big body might somehow escape his control. But the reality couldn’t be further, as his body perfectly follows his orders. For example, 6-10 guys (his likely size in shoes) running at full speed in transition tend to bump into opponents that step in their way to the basket, but Danilo has no trouble slashing by them, being able to easily change directions on the run. He actually delivered a spectacular coast-to-coast play that included a behind-the-back direction change he executed with his left hand between two opponents at almost full speed. If not the quickest and most reactive guy around, he is pretty fast when he starts moving, which looks obvious when he plays transition ball. His incredibly long strides help a great deal here as well. Just to emphasize that point, he got to the free throw line an astounding 17 times against Teramo last week.

Every game is a door open to amazement. He’s so skilled and fundamentally sound that remarkable plays are bound to happen on a regular basis.
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7/7/2008  7:44 AM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by fishmike:

Joe Alexander was who I wanted. I also wanted Love and Westbrook but they were off the board. I didnt include Galli in my wish list because I knew so little about him.

As much as I wanted Alexander there is nothing that clearly makes him a better pick than Galli.

And no.. the scouting reports dont 'basically' stat what you have said. You have made him out to be some kind of Euro stiff thats got no shot of sticking in the NBA. Scouting reports basically that what he brings to the table makes him a foundation player.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Jerryd-Bayless-1067/

hey.. this 'basically' says Bayless is an alligator armed, undersized tweener guard that pounds the ball, has a low IQ and doesnt win games. Who needs a guy like that? Thats who you want? Wow Isles.. your guy basically sucks.

I love how you excluded all of Bayless' strengths as noted by draftexpress.

Strengths:

• Quickness
• Fluidity
• Explosiveness
• First step
• Incredibly smooth
• Complete package offensively
• Perimeter shooting
• NBA range
• Mid-range pull-up jump-shot
• Ability to create shot
• Ability to come off screens
• Ability to get to free throw line
• Confidence
• Ball-handling ability
• Go-to mentality
• Unselfishness
• Committed to playing defense
• Lateral quickness
• Intangibles
• Upside


Just playing by your rules fish.
great.. since you are now doing that we can clearly see that while both players are touted as good prospects our GM did a good job but choosing a 6'9 versatile frontcourt player with point guard skills over a 6'2 shooting guard with point guard skills.

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7/7/2008  12:39 PM
The draft is always a crapshoot.

Realistically we won't even know the answer to whether Gallinari was a mistake for a few seasons.

Too bad there's no way we can collect $ from Islesfan and his detractors.

It would be something like who's better in 5 seasons from now: Bayless or Gallo ?

Loser buys winner a bottle of Johnny Walker Blue..or $20. Something like that.

I find it funny that people are so convinced that the Gallo is going to be great or suck before ever seeing him play against NBA comp.

Let's try to elevate the level of discourse in this byeetch. Please
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7/7/2008  1:17 PM
If you're a Knick fan and a rational human being, I don't know how you can look at the Gallo pick with anything other than cautious optimism. You don't have enough information to make an eval on the guy in either direction, and since you're a fan you have to hope he's going to be good, even if you're a little big guarded in your enthusiasm b/c of past Knick busts.

There's nothing wrong with being excited after reading a nice interview (like this one) or when talking about what you think his skillset might be. As a fan you're supposed to want to find reasons to like him.
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7/7/2008  1:24 PM
Posted by VDesai:

If you're a Knick fan and a rational human being, I don't know how you can look at the Gallo pick with anything other than cautious optimism. You don't have enough information to make an eval on the guy in either direction, and since you're a fan you have to hope he's going to be good, even if you're a little big guarded in your enthusiasm b/c of past Knick busts.

There's nothing wrong with being excited after reading a nice interview (like this one) or when talking about what you think his skillset might be. As a fan you're supposed to want to find reasons to like him.

Exactly Des. This is EXACTLY what I've been saying throughout.
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7/7/2008  1:28 PM
Posted by VDesai:

If you're a Knick fan and a rational human being

Is it possible to be both?

HAHA!! Seriously V, I agree 100%.
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7/7/2008  1:33 PM
PURPLE:

How about this? How about we watch the fckn guy & see what he has?

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TMS:
but then u can't say "I told u so" later if things pan out the way you want them to... that's the key.

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PURPLE:
I started the thread b/c it seems to me that Gallinari has a very good skill set, especially for a 19 year old in the 6'10" range. I'm excited to see him. Nothing more, nothing less. I have not seen the guy play a game yet. How could I or anybody else say I told you so (whether they're predicting Hall of Fame or Hall of Crap or anything in between)???


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