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BasketballJones
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6/13/2008  12:11 AM
Keltics played some pretty good D there too.
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6/13/2008  12:14 AM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by Vmart:


Its very simple the Lakers lose a monster lead like the way they did. Come on I have never witnessed Phil Jackson coached team to lose a lead like that. Beides I think Stern's is in a hurry to wrap the series up for the simple reason that he wants to get the refs off the floor ASAP to stop the intense scrutney they are under. The longer the series goes the more people are getting suspicious that there is something going on.

Dude come on, let's be real here. Fouls had nothing to do with the Lakers losing this lead, it had to do with the Lakers playing no defense and the Celtics hitting their 3's, add in Kobe played like ****. Come on man, I know it's easy to be cynical right now with the NBA, but let's be a little smarter than that.

No way man this shyt is fixed from top to bottom. Besides these two teams aren't even suppose to be in the finals if it wasn't for the NBA rigging it. Right now its suppose to be Spurs and Pistons going at it. Not twp teams that F'ed the system.

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6/13/2008  12:15 AM
It's not over until someone wins 4 games. For the C's sake, they better put them away as soon as possible.

I refuse to count Kobe Bryant and Phil Jackson out. Let's not forget Doc Rivers has lost a series up 3-1 before.

But, wow, this loss might've cost the Lakers the championship. You can't lose like this on your home floor.
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6/13/2008  12:16 AM
Come on VMart, if you're going to be that cynical and trust me, what you're saying right now is WAY out there how can you even watch the games anymore? I don't get it.
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6/13/2008  12:17 AM
Posted by K22:

It's not over until someone wins 4 games. For the C's sake, they better put them away as soon as possible.

I refuse to count Kobe Bryant and Phil Jackson out. Let's not forget Doc Rivers has lost a series up 3-1 before.

But, wow, this loss might've cost the Lakers the championship. You can't lose like this on your home floor.

Stern will have a sit down with Kobe and Phil and give them the itinerary on how the rest of the series will unfold from here on out.
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6/13/2008  12:22 AM
Posted by nyk4ever:

Come on VMart, if you're going to be that cynical and trust me, what you're saying right now is WAY out there how can you even watch the games anymore? I don't get it.


What the league allowed to happen isn't right and they screwed a lot of fan bases for their finacial needs. I don't understand how you guys can be so lenient.

I guarantee you that the next game is the last game played in the finals Celtic will close it out. Now the agensda has changed from push this to as many games as possible to get the ref off the court ASAP.
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6/13/2008  12:28 AM
I just think Boston is Formidable... Or whatever this Knicks commercial said.
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6/13/2008  3:01 AM
Posted by nyk4ever:

Kobe thinks he's better than Michael Jordan. I'll tell you one thing, theres no way no how Michael Jordan would have EVER taken his foot off the other teams throat and allowed his team to lose like Kobe and his Lakers did tonight. Pathetic.

there will never be another Jordan just like there'll never be another Wilt or Kareem... these guys are immortals for a reason... i agree w/ur point tho, Jordan would have never let his team fall in this manner... Gasol was pathetic down the stretch... he looked like he was a first year rookie in his 1st game in the NBA... the whole team completely panicked away that win... it was pretty pathetic.
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6/13/2008  9:12 AM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by nyk4ever:

Kobe thinks he's better than Michael Jordan. I'll tell you one thing, theres no way no how Michael Jordan would have EVER taken his foot off the other teams throat and allowed his team to lose like Kobe and his Lakers did tonight. Pathetic.

there will never be another Jordan just like there'll never be another Wilt or Kareem... these guys are immortals for a reason... i agree w/ur point tho, Jordan would have never let his team fall in this manner... Gasol was pathetic down the stretch... he looked like he was a first year rookie in his 1st game in the NBA... the whole team completely panicked away that win... it was pretty pathetic.

You mean the refs would never of let Jordan's team fall in this manner. This shyt is rigged.

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6/13/2008  9:31 AM
Posted by Vmart:
Posted by TMS:
Posted by nyk4ever:

Kobe thinks he's better than Michael Jordan. I'll tell you one thing, theres no way no how Michael Jordan would have EVER taken his foot off the other teams throat and allowed his team to lose like Kobe and his Lakers did tonight. Pathetic.

there will never be another Jordan just like there'll never be another Wilt or Kareem... these guys are immortals for a reason... i agree w/ur point tho, Jordan would have never let his team fall in this manner... Gasol was pathetic down the stretch... he looked like he was a first year rookie in his 1st game in the NBA... the whole team completely panicked away that win... it was pretty pathetic.

You mean the refs would never of let Jordan's team fall in this manner. This shyt is rigged.

last night's game wasn't decided by calls or non calls tho. boston made defensive stops and big shots. team fouls were 24-23.

[Edited by - djsunyc on 06-13-2008 09:31 AM]
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6/13/2008  11:38 AM
kobe's the next jordan...

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6/13/2008  1:39 PM
The refs had absolutely nothing to do with this game, and I watched closely for that last night, because I haven't been watching the calls of the refs closely like trueblue claims he has. This was a hardfought battle by both teams and the Lakers just dissapeared because the Celtics proved their superiority. More starpower, more bench power, better defense, better ability to play well after a loss, better comeback ability and better overall leadership and most of all, better heart.

The refs had absolutely nothing to do with last night. This game was not fixed.
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6/13/2008  3:20 PM
Posted by Allanfan20:

The refs had absolutely nothing to do with this game, and I watched closely for that last night, because I haven't been watching the calls of the refs closely like trueblue claims he has. This was a hardfought battle by both teams and the Lakers just dissapeared because the Celtics proved their superiority. More starpower, more bench power, better defense, better ability to play well after a loss, better comeback ability and better overall leadership and most of all, better heart.

The refs had absolutely nothing to do with last night. This game was not fixed.


How can you say the game is not fixed when the two teams that are playing in the finals are there because of a fix. If they are there its because it was fixed. Anything else you tell me I won't believe it because these two teams are not suppose to be in the finals. What the league pulled was BS. They are selling the fans a lie. It doesn't matter if you think last nights game wasn't fixed because that just means the league did it job of selling the Lakers and Celtics to you.

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6/13/2008  3:36 PM
I'm not disagreeing or agreeing with you on the fact that the Lakers and Celtics are there b/c of fixing. I really don't know and hope not. It's not looking good for the NBA, in that area, though. However, I'm just disagreeing that LAST NIGHTS game was not fixed. The outcome was determined because the Celtics were and are better, and the Celtics will win b/c the are better.
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6/13/2008  3:50 PM
Posted by Allanfan20:

I'm not disagreeing or agreeing with you on the fact that the Lakers and Celtics are there b/c of fixing. I really don't know and hope not. It's not looking good for the NBA, in that area, though. However, I'm just disagreeing that LAST NIGHTS game was not fixed. The outcome was determined because the Celtics were and are better, and the Celtics will win b/c the are better.


Who knows I'm just saying once someone lies to you once they can lie to you again. Its a trust thing now. I'm so upset with the way these two teams deals went down, it was with blatant disregard to the other fan base in the NBA. It affected a lot of teams. Just imagine how the Hawks fans feel losing to the Celtics who basically frauded their way to a championship. How do the Spurs fans feel about the Lakers with their deal for Gasol I mean it was highway robbery.

With recent allegation of fraud committed by refs leads me to think that the entire NBA is in on it. The NBA isn't allowing the out comes to be decided by the teams, they are basically determining the outcomes for all the teams in the league. Right now I need a full scale investigation done by congress to get me believing in the NBA.
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6/13/2008  4:51 PM
james posey = the new robert horry...
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6/13/2008  4:53 PM
Posted by Vmart:
Posted by TMS:
Posted by nyk4ever:

Kobe thinks he's better than Michael Jordan. I'll tell you one thing, theres no way no how Michael Jordan would have EVER taken his foot off the other teams throat and allowed his team to lose like Kobe and his Lakers did tonight. Pathetic.

there will never be another Jordan just like there'll never be another Wilt or Kareem... these guys are immortals for a reason... i agree w/ur point tho, Jordan would have never let his team fall in this manner... Gasol was pathetic down the stretch... he looked like he was a first year rookie in his 1st game in the NBA... the whole team completely panicked away that win... it was pretty pathetic.

You mean the refs would never of let Jordan's team fall in this manner. This shyt is rigged.

that game was not rigged but star players do get preferential treatment u gotta admit... & on the other hand star players know how to work the refs to get the calls called their way as well.
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6/13/2008  8:54 PM
Posted by djsunyc:

james posey = the new robert horry...

I agree, he's capable of hitting the big shot and being as dirty as he can be.
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6/13/2008  10:08 PM
VMART: Why do you watch the games if you think they're fixed?
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6/14/2008  11:30 AM
Also, why would the finals but not the draft lottery be fixed? Nothing could make more money for the league than the #1 pick (especially when it was Lebron) going to NY.
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