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3/31/2008  8:25 AM
BY FRANK ISOLA
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Monday, March 31st 2008, 4:00 AM

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Donnie Walsh is waiting to see if he will be granted full autonomy over every basketball-related issue if he joins the Knicks.

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Jamal Crawford (c.) dropped 39 points in the Knicks' 114-109 recent loss to Atlanta.

There are rumblings that James Dolan will hold a press conference this week to announce his plans to refurbish Madison Square Garden. The announcement of rebuilding the Knicks may have to wait a few more days.

Donnie Walsh has a handshake agreement to succeed Isiah Thomas as Knicks' president, but Walsh is still in talks with Dolan, the Garden chairman, about receiving assurances that he will have autonomy over every basketball-related issue, including the team's infamous media policy.

A source familiar with the talks believes that if Walsh signs a deal with the Knicks, it will happen this week. From all indications, Walsh will join the Knicks, but in the unlikely event that he passes on the job, Walsh has two other plausible options: sitting out one season or running the Milwaukee Bucks.

With Doug Collins reportedly having twice turned down the Bucks, the team is actively trying to recruit Walsh. In fact, a Bucks source claims that team owner Herb Kohl is trying to reunite Walsh and Larry Brown in Milwaukee.

Walsh, of course, would have the final say on who coaches his team and there is no guarantee that Brown, whom he once hired in Indiana, would be his first choice. But Kohl has broached the idea, according to a source.

Coincidentally, Dolan has let it be known that he would prefer to keep Thomas on the bench even though Walsh's first order of business with the Knicks will be to find a new coach.

The Daily News reported last week that Brown is the top choice of the Memphis Grizzlies if - when - head coach Marc Iavaroni is let go. There are also reports that Brown could end up with the Atlanta Hawks, where his brother Herb is an assistant coach.

The next head coach of the Knicks could come from a group that includes Mark Jackson, Scott Skiles and Tom Thibodeau. That list eventually may include the Mavericks' Avery Johnson, whose club is in jeopardy of missing the playoffs. Johnson, who is highly respected but recently got into a heated shouting match with Mavs owner Mark Cuban, is 2-8 in his last 10 postseason games.

Jackson could also be in the running to become the Knicks' next general manager under Walsh. Former Sixers GM Billy King is another option.
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3/31/2008  10:08 AM
Q. Will Dolan cede authority for all basketball operations to Walsh?

[Edited by - basketballjones on 03-31-2008 10:09]
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3/31/2008  11:01 AM
Posted by BasketballJones:

Q. Will Dolan cede authority for all basketball operations to Walsh?

[Edited by - basketballjones on 03-31-2008 10:09]

I sure hope so. That's the only way we'll ever get real rebuilding.
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3/31/2008  11:18 AM
Posted by BasketballJones:

Q. Will Dolan cede authority for all basketball operations to Walsh?

[Edited by - basketballjones on 03-31-2008 10:09]

outside of the media policy, when hasn't he?
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3/31/2008  11:46 AM
Dallas would be pretty foolish to fire Johnson. Interesting how increasing pressure to win makes some organizations to make shot sided decisions. That's what the Knicks did when they fired Ernie Grunfeld. If Johnson is available he has to be the top choice.

Next I like Mark Jackson over Skiles, and probably Tom Thibodeau. Carlisle has some qualities too, but I have questions about him being similar to Skiles.
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3/31/2008  2:38 PM
The Answer Man Still Likes Ernie Grunfeld For Pres-O-Dent

Q. martin - outside of the media policy, when hasn't he?

A. I would not give Dolan a pass on heavy-handed-ness. Nor would I assume that things such as Anucha-Gate were beyond his influence. If Isiah stays beyond the last day of the season, it would be a clear sign that JD is dealing his cards of preference to the next person in charge of basketball operations. It always comes down to power inside the walls of 2 Penn Plaza. The fundamental issue Donnie Walsh (or any candidate with a strong resume) demands clarity on, is his boundary of independant decision-making.

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Posted by misterearl:

The Answer Man Still Likes Ernie Grunfeld For Pres-O-Dent

Q. martin - outside of the media policy, when hasn't he?

A. I would not give Dolan a pass on heavy-handed-ness. Nor would I assume that things such as Anucha-Gate were beyond his influence. If Isiah stays beyond the last day of the season, it would be a clear sign that JD is dealing his cards of preference to the next person in charge of basketball operations. It always comes down to power inside the walls of 2 Penn Plaza. The fundamental issue Donnie Walsh (or any candidate with a strong resume) demands clarity on, is his boundary of independant decision-making.

It's scary that I actually find myself agreeing with Earl! We see GMs come here and starphuck when they didn't previously. Layden definitely didn't previously and even Isiah was willing to draft high schoolers and be patient with them before coming here. Maybe these are all just strange coincidental occurrences (one GM doing a lot of starpucking would be puzzling enough) or maybe Dolan requires his GMs to make moves that bring in instant cash at the expense of long-term rebuilding. The fact this is an issue to Walsh too now leads me to think it's the latter.
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3/31/2008  5:08 PM
Bonn - don't allow yourself to be mislead by the pre-juding, narrow minded anti-Answer Man types who refuse to keep an open mind to abstract angles.

As I have tried to describe, our beloved Knicks are a corporate entity, and as such have struggled with issues of responsibility for over a quarter century. The issue is not the availability or even whether the Knicks can afford ANY available executive... fact is, Cablevision has obscene amounts of money in the available balance column. Money ain't the issue. Never has been.

The problem is convincing any candidate that the ownership will empower that person to redefine the priorities, image and immediate expectations of the franchise. You cannot bring in a Donnie Walsh and second-guess his decisions. Nor can you infer that anyone is the preferred choice for any position. That goes from decisions on head coach to the ushers in the blue seats.

You can't bring in a Larry Brown and second-guess his methods, no matter how politcally-driven his opinions to the press... or to other executives for that matter, may seem... as the Knicks learned the hard way. Isiah and Larry could have worked it out, hell, for $4oM they better... but not with the counter/counter-espionage that makes MSG famous.


Calbevsion and Dolan ain't going anywhere, its too much a part of the juicy profit center that is held by NewsCorp... but the Dolans must finally make an executive decision and take a huge step back.
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Posted by misterearl:

Bonn - don't allow yourself to be mislead by the pre-juding, narrow minded anti-Answer Man types who refuse to keep an open mind to abstract angles.

As I have tried to describe, our beloved Knicks are a corporate entity, and as such have struggled with issues of responsibility for over a quarter century. The issue is not the availability or even whether the Knicks can afford ANY available executive... fact is, Cablevision has obscene amounts of money in the available balance column. Money ain't the issue. Never has been.

The problem is convincing any candidate that the ownership will empower that person to redefine the priorities, image and immediate expectations of the franchise. You cannot bring in a Donnie Walsh and second-guess his decisions. Nor can you infer that anyone is the preferred choice for any position. That goes from decisions on head coach to the ushers in the blue seats.

You can't bring in a Larry Brown and second-guess his methods, no matter how politcally-driven his opinions to the press... or to other executives for that matter, may seem... as the Knicks learned the hard way. Isiah and Larry could have worked it out, hell, for $4oM they better... but not with the counter/counter-espionage that makes MSG famous.


Calbevsion and Dolan ain't going anywhere, its too much a part of the juicy profit center that is held by NewsCorp... but the Dolans must finally make an executive decision and take a huge step back.

Great post.
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3/31/2008  6:03 PM
Allanfan - thank you.

I'm still not over the fact that Checketts was compelled/directed to decide between Van Gundy and Ernie Grunfeld, who shoulda never, ever been whacked over dinner like the shady police chief who sucker-punched Michael C in Godfather Part 1.

Does Checketts follow with a strong personality hire? Nope. Checketts paves the way for Utah goodfellas, the mild-mannered Scott and his comic-sidekick Dad Frank Layden, not necessarily because they were the best qualified... but because they were available and they appeared to be a comfortable fit at MSG over someone more influential (Phil Jackson) who would immediately command (and demand) more autonomy and privacy.

Checketts was the man and didn't feel the need for any competition from strong personalities.

The rest, as they say, is history.
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Sit Down and Shut Up

"Walsh always has been media friendly and he has close ties to several influential columnists, some of whom are on Dolan's watch list. Former Knicks coach Larry Brown had similar associations with members of the media and Dolan used those relationships against Brown during his arbitration hearing with the club two years ago.

Brown tried to play by the rules as best he could, but he still went about his business as he always had, much to the dismay of Dolan. People who know the 67-year-old Walsh maintain that he will stay true to himself regardless of where he works.

However, people close to Dolan are not convinced that he will suddenly have a change of heart regarding his media policy. The NBA office was instrumental in pushing the Knicks toward Walsh but whether he decides to come to New York is, according to one league source, "out of David Stern's hands. This is up to Dolan now."

Walsh continues to negotiate with Dolan over three key issues: whether he'll have autonomy, the team's media policy and Isiah Thomas' future. Dolan would prefer to have Thomas remain as coach, which will not happen if Walsh is running the Knicks. At the very least, Dolan wants Thomas to remain in the organization in a still-to-be determined role.

Walsh will have the power to hire a general manager as well as a coach and will have the final say on all player transactions. As for the media policy, there is a possibility that Walsh is looking for a scenario where the team's media relations officials report directly to him.

Dolan has created a culture where the players complain about having their conversations monitored and where they are looking over their shoulders to see who is listening to them."

-Frank Isola

Translation:

Forget Walsh and Larry Brown for a moment. Forget Don Chaney, Herb Williams, Lenny Wilkens and forget Isiah.

Without changing the culture at MSG, Donnie Walsh is destined to fail., for no other reason than the conflict that will certainly arise when a major decision must be made and someone must be held accountable for the results. Dolan won't stand down and neither will Walsh.

Few writers are objective enough to separate themselves from such oversight and suspicion. In the same vein, Knicks players must wear a muzzle and walk the fine line between expression (which rarely comes easy for most) and violation of the "no talk" zone. The reportage on any Knicks coach or player will be tainted with the bitter vocabulary of someone who is treated like an indentured servant.

How do any elite athletes (especially yoots) remain focused performance under the constant harsh glare of criticism? My spidey sense tells me that a secure veteran like Malik Rose could care less about media censure and has enough off-the-record moments to double as undercover brother in the locker room. The assistant coaches look like zombies for good reason. Or Imagine the conversation Randolph Morris, David Lee and The Mayor have over breakfast.

Without Dolan letting go of his iron grip on the procedures and policies, Walsh simply won't work, Colangelo won't work and Jerry West won't work. The media policy is simply public evidence of a larger corporate culture that is as flawed as Enron, Countrywide, or Bear Stearns.

Brace yourselves for what promises to be a rocky ride.



[Edited by - misterearl on 04-01-2008 1:38 PM]
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Brace yourselves for what promises to be a rocky ride.



[Edited by - misterearl on 04-01-2008 08:34 AM]
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In a major concession, Dolan also granted Walsh the authority to rewrite the Garden’s highly restrictive policies on speaking with the news media. Walsh who long styled himself as an accessible, media-friendly executive, insisted on retaining that freedom before accepting the job, the person said. The Garden has generally disallowed any employee — from team executives to coaches, players and staff members — from speaking to reporters without permission or, often, without a public-relations person present.

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THAT was the sticking point??? I thought/hoped it had more to do with have full control over the direction and rebuilding of the team

[Edited by - bonn1997 on 04-02-2008 07:35 AM]
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Bonn - I don't think so. I don't assume there has been much investigative reporting on the Knicks.

Besides, any writer trying to get the actual details would hafta hack their way past the security system or have Mark Aguirre on speed dial.

The media policy thing was simply a smokescreen for the struggle to define the limits of Wash's authority and the chain of command

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Posted by misterearl:

Sit Down and Shut Up

"Walsh always has been media friendly and he has close ties to several influential columnists, some of whom are on Dolan's watch list. Former Knicks coach Larry Brown had similar associations with members of the media and Dolan used those relationships against Brown during his arbitration hearing with the club two years ago.

Brown tried to play by the rules as best he could, but he still went about his business as he always had, much to the dismay of Dolan. People who know the 67-year-old Walsh maintain that he will stay true to himself regardless of where he works.

However, people close to Dolan are not convinced that he will suddenly have a change of heart regarding his media policy. The NBA office was instrumental in pushing the Knicks toward Walsh but whether he decides to come to New York is, according to one league source, "out of David Stern's hands. This is up to Dolan now."

Walsh continues to negotiate with Dolan over three key issues: whether he'll have autonomy, the team's media policy and Isiah Thomas' future. Dolan would prefer to have Thomas remain as coach, which will not happen if Walsh is running the Knicks. At the very least, Dolan wants Thomas to remain in the organization in a still-to-be determined role.

Walsh will have the power to hire a general manager as well as a coach and will have the final say on all player transactions. As for the media policy, there is a possibility that Walsh is looking for a scenario where the team's media relations officials report directly to him.

Dolan has created a culture where the players complain about having their conversations monitored and where they are looking over their shoulders to see who is listening to them."

-Frank Isola

Translation:

Forget Walsh and Larry Brown for a moment. Forget Don Chaney, Herb Williams, Lenny Wilkens and forget Isiah.

Without changing the culture at MSG, Donnie Walsh is destined to fail., for no other reason than the conflict that will certainly arise when a major decision must be made and someone must be held accountable for the results. Dolan won't stand down and neither will Walsh.

Few writers are objective enough to separate themselves from such oversight and suspicion. In the same vein, Knicks players must wear a muzzle and walk the fine line between expression (which rarely comes easy for most) and violation of the "no talk" zone. The reportage on any Knicks coach or player will be tainted with the bitter vocabulary of someone who is treated like an indentured servant.

How do any elite athletes (especially yoots) remain focused performance under the constant harsh glare of criticism? My spidey sense tells me that a secure veteran like Malik Rose could care less about media censure and has enough off-the-record moments to double as undercover brother in the locker room. The assistant coaches look like zombies for good reason. Or Imagine the conversation Randolph Morris, David Lee and The Mayor have over breakfast.

Without Dolan letting go of his iron grip on the procedures and policies, Walsh simply won't work, Colangelo won't work and Jerry West won't work. The media policy is simply public evidence of a larger corporate culture that is as flawed as Enron, Countrywide, or Bear Stearns.

Brace yourselves for what promises to be a rocky ride.



[Edited by - misterearl on 04-01-2008 1:38 PM]

That's big talk coming from somebody who told us that we were all idiots for not realizing that the last few years would be clear sailing under Dolan and especially Isiah.

[Edited by - islesfan on 02-04-2008 08:06 AM]
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4/2/2008  8:16 AM
Walsh's attorney, Steve Kauffman, did not respond to requests for comment last night. Walsh, himself a lawyer, has been negotiating the parameters - including his title, breadth of powers, salary, and length of contract - on his own.

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4/2/2008  8:45 AM
Look for a conversation between fellow UNC alums Donnie Walsh and Larry Brown.

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Posted by misterearl:

Look for a conversation between fellow UNC alums Donnie Walsh and Larry Brown.

on what - which lawyer to bring into arbitration meetings with stern after dolan tries to stiff you?
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4/2/2008  8:52 AM
Marv - if Walsh has negotiated a level of authority and autonony for President of basketball Operations never seen before at 2 Penn Plaza, and given their relationship, is the idea of Larry Brown The Sequel really so far out of the new picture?

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