Posted by King1:

Oohah it is hard to listen to you because you thought Frye was the best thing since Tim Duncan

Posted by oohah:

Posted by King1:

Oohah it is hard to listen to you because you thought Frye was the best thing since Tim Duncan

The best thing since Tim Duncan? Really? I said that?

King, it is hard to listen to you because your only motivation on this board is Lee. You aren't a Knicks fan as far as I can tell. If Lee is traded to the Cavaliers, you'll disappear from here, and you'll be all over ultimatecavaliers.com going on about how Drew Gooden is stealing Lee's time.

By the way, where were you when it was me vs. the entire forum about starting Lee? I wanted Lee to start and everybody else wanted Rose to start. I don't recall you speaking up back then. So as Barack Obama stated: "I think you're about 2 years behind me on this issue."

Do you have anything besides vague insults to add to the topic?

oohah

Posted by oohah:

Posted by King1:

Oohah it is hard to listen to you because you thought Frye was the best thing since Tim Duncan

The best thing since Tim Duncan? Really? I said that?

King, it is hard to listen to you because your only motivation on this board is Lee. You aren't a Knicks fan as far as I can tell. If Lee is traded to the Cavaliers, you'll disappear from here, and you'll be all over ultimatecavaliers.com going on about how Drew Gooden is stealing Lee's time.

By the way, where were you when it was me vs. the entire forum about starting Lee? I wanted Lee to start and everybody else wanted Rose to start. I don't recall you speaking up back then. So as Barack Obama stated: "I think you're about 2 years behind me on this issue."

Do you have anything besides vague insults to add to the topic?

oohah

Posted by oohah:

I suggest you stand up and make some bold predictions, it's fun!

oohah

The rest of your post was fine but the above is garbage. Part of making bold predictions is taking it in the right spirit when you're wrong. And you're quite clearly wrong here. So don't sulk and ask other posters to "stand up" as if you're special in that regard. At this point, you know quite clearly that I and most posters on the board won't hesitate to either praise, rebuke or predict the play of our players.

Posted by King1:

I am a Knicks fan because David is on this team. I want him to win, when Tyler Hansbrough get in the league whatever team he is on I will cheer my ass off for. I wont cheer for guys that arent of great character or selfish players.

Posted by oohah:

The rest of your post was fine but the above is garbage. Part of making bold predictions is taking it in the right spirit when you're wrong. And you're quite clearly wrong here. So don't sulk and ask other posters to "stand up" as if you're special in that regard. At this point, you know quite clearly that I and most posters on the board won't hesitate to either praise, rebuke or predict the play of our players.

Sulk? Where and when?

I admitted I was wrong about Frye very early in the season last year. Interesting that you felt the need to bring it up at this point and take a jab a me out of the blue, when it has nothing to do with this conversation. Now that is pure garbage.

I don't know that you are willing to make bold predictions. I've seen you do it once, when you predicted that the team would play better when Crawford was injured last year. You wuz wrong. If I brought it up out of the blue this year, I wonder what your response would be?

oohah

Posted by oohah:

A jab at you? Are you a child? No one gets credit for making bold predictions that are flatly wrong. They get heckled, its part of the FUN of posting on a message board. I get heckled. You do. We all do. But, you take it as an insult or a "jab," likely because you're afraid to be called out despite all of your "stand up and make a prediction" bravado. Why else would you perceive my comment as an insult?

I guess the same reason you referred my joking reply to you as "pure garbage".

The difference is, I was actually joking. You on the other hand were just being uncool.

I guess I could be wrong. Please point out to me the 'joking' portion of your initial post. Here it is for your reference:

"You did claim that Frye would threaten to make the all-star game. He failed last year and is in the process of failing in Portland this season as well, where he no longer is the "release man."

Hilarious stuff!

What you actually were doing was heckling me, and without any humor to it at all. That is your description, not mine. I find "heckling" people at the slightest opportunity the way you did above to be childish, and that is why I don't engage in that activity. For me to heckle there has to be an actual relationship to the topic at hand.

Meanwhile, your skin is so thin that you have started calling names (Italicized above.). I've noticed you sling mud early Code, really you do, and I don't think you take it as well as you give it.

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Do you have any comment on the actual discussion matter? I think I've made a cogent argument that David Lee is somewhat overrated because of the void of star white athletes in basketball and sports in general. Do you agree or disagree?

oohah

My initial comment wasn't a joke, so don't look for one. I was teasing you about our conversation last year where we discussed Frye's merits in Isiah's offense as the "release man." More to the point, I don't find heckling posters childish, I think its part of the fraternity here. Hopefully, though, you do see the difference between teasing you/Frye and telling someone to "stand up" and make a prediction. The latter takes on a different character. Again, you wrote "I suggest you stand up and make some bold predictions, it's fun!" And then continued later with "I don't know that you are willing to make bold predictions." So, it seems you weren't really joking but instead thought you were hinting at some occult truth. Of course, it was a lie, as you yourself admitted with the Crawford example. Thus, I addressed it.

I shouldn't have to make the case as to why making predictions on a message board, where nothing is at stake, isn't at all bold. If you feel you should get a medal for it, I won't stand in the way. Your "mud slinging" theory is just as wrong as your theories about Frye. But you're entitled to feel that way if you so choose.

My take on the "great white hope" business is that its not interesting. Sure, human beings have a tendency to support people that look similar. But, thats a fairly accepted fact at this point. If we wanted to look at the degree or root of that phenomenon, basketball fanhood is a poor model.

Is Lee a better player than Zach? No. Does he fit better in a system that demands a low shot count? Yes.

My initial comment wasn't a joke, so don't look for one. I was teasing you about our conversation last year where we discussed Frye's merits in Isiah's offense as the "release man." More to the point, I don't find heckling posters childish, I think its part of the fraternity here. Hopefully, though, you do see the difference between teasing you/Frye and telling someone to "stand up" and make a prediction. The latter takes on a different character. Again, you wrote "I suggest you stand up and make some bold predictions, it's fun!" And then continued later with "I don't know that you are willing to make bold predictions." So, it seems you weren't really joking but instead thought you were hinting at some occult truth. Of course, it was a lie, as you yourself admitted with the Crawford example. Thus, I addressed it.

I shouldn't have to make the case as to why making predictions on a message board, where nothing is at stake, isn't at all bold. If you feel you should get a medal for it, I won't stand in the way. Your "mud slinging" theory is just as wrong as your theories about Frye. But you're entitled to feel that way if you so choose.