solace that is worthwhile hate i dig that

And the truth is, Marbury is so talented that if he simply changed his mentality, it will all turn around for him. Everytime I'm hopeful for him that he would do that... then he lets me down. I'm no longer hopeful he will do that. I've given up all hope. He's a loser.

Posted by Solace:

Marbury is a retarded *******. Ruined my f'ck'n team. He deserves every bit of this.

So in that 1st half season when the team made the playoffs we are supposed to assume that this team was on the right track just months after Isiah's taking over for Layden, when the consensus was that it would take Isiah YEARS to fix this team? That is Steph's fault. Or did you not believe that it would take years to fix this team? Were you of the belief that all we needed was one former All Star and he could make this team great?

NO ONE PLAYER can make a team win. You have to have help and I think the way the team has been moving in the last 3 years Isiah has been trying to put a team together that can do something. Even if Steph played out of his mind this team still wouldn't have been great. I know that when i'm playing i'm responsible for my job on the court and unless the PG is absolutely horrible it shouldn't stop me from being able to effectively play my role. Steph is not horrible. There's no stat you can find that would suggest such a thing. The TEAM has been in flux since day one. Now at least we can start to see that this team has the young talent to do something good but you'd rather blame everything on Steph.

Last year he had to adjust and he eventually did and I suspect that if the other players do what they're supposed to do, this team will win. The truth is that nothing Steph could've done would've been enough for you to actually like him. So let's stop the games. You and many of the fans here just wanted to see this team rebuild from scratch and Steph represents the fact that Dolan and Isiah didn't do that. So you're angry with him as if it's all been in his control. That no matter who you threw on the court with him. He'd make it all work and we'd win. Then the question is win what? A few playoff games? That wouldn't have satisfied you or any fan. So the thing is that our ultimate goal is to have a team that can do more than that, but if we haven't reached that point in the last 4 years don't blame Steph.

2003-04 Expectation was to make the playoffs and win a few games. Made the Playoffs, but didn't win a game.
2004-05 Expectation was to make the playoffs and win a few games. Didn't make the playoffs. Isiah makes trades to acquire picks and begins the process of retooling with more youth.

This was a GOOD THING! Sure it wasn't the complete rebuild many wanted, but it's as close as we were ever gonna get from Dolan.

2005-06 Expectation was to establish a new winning culture, develop kids and hopefully make the playoffs. Total disaster as LB tries a Powerplay.
2006-07 Expectation to do what didn't get accomplished the previous season. Team makes some progress, but misses playoffs.
2007-08 Expectation is to win and make playoffs. Real success would be getting past 1st rd.

In the 3.5 actual seasons played we've never really had an expectation to be great and so the failure has to be put into perspective. This is the 1st season since Steph and Isiah that we have bigger expectations than just squeezing into the playoffs. We have to do more than just get by. But remember that it's not just about this season but the next 5 seasons. We just want to start the winning this year. We've had 3 disappointing seasons and i'm sure we all want to see that end, but it's not about Steph.

Islesfan I'm glad your life revolves around the knicks...so does mine..grow up man get a life..why dont you go and worry about the important things in life and stop acting like you got a pair...this is some childish high school crap.

Just for the heck of it to get involved,every team Marbury has been traded from, ended up winning 50 games the next season.

Posted by Killa4luv:

Its easy to criticize people.
Its easy to hate.

I try not to talk crazy on the internet, because I hate when people do it to me. Funny things is I could probably beat the holy living **** out of most people I encounter on the internets, but I dont think I should be talking big stuff behind a keyboard. That doesnt make me a man. And it doesn't make me feel good.

This makes me think about the guys who were throwing beer on Ron Artest in Detroit, and then ****ted on themselves when Guys came up in the stands. Think about the consequences of your actions.

If I had talked about Steph, I could invite him to my block for a peaceful meeting or for a fight. I can handle either one. But when you are so disrespectful, and you know you dont want a physical confrontation with someone, you are left in somewhat of an awkward position when that person confronts you. You are like the kid in the stands in Detroit, thiking about what youve done but its already too late. You have to change your tone, modify your language, show a little respect. These are all things you ought to have been doing all along.

Steph is my favorite player. I like his sneakers. I like his game. I dont think he is the anti-christ. And if Steph and Islesfan meet, I like Stephs chances. LOL! but I also think he was clearly buggin out on that show, calling his wife a 'better ho' was inappropriate, and I'd like to see him acknowledge that too. I think he could have handled the LB situation better too, although it was clearly instigated by LB.

There are appropriate ways to be critical of people. When men talk there should always be respect. When that respect is gone, be prepared for things to escalate.

Good post Killa.

Also, for reference, some copycat is also posting and putting his name as Solace, because not all of those are from me.

All I can say is that I'm glad to be associate with a message board whose voice is so prominent that a "star" athlete feels the need to a jab at him in his blog.

It's hilarious reading some of the posts on that blog where people clearly posted as someone else.

This whole thing has gotten way to much attention.