Posted by misterearl:

Bonn1997 - if you look at the history of the Knicks franchise, dating back to the days of Gulf+Western, the objective has NEVER been to manage salaries. The Knicks have been top-bidder for players like Bob McAdoo, Truck Robinson, George McGinnis (to a league penalty), Kiki, Paul Westphal, Spencer Haywood...

The salary cap rules were very different recently. Now, you're actually stuck in the mediocrity we've been stuck in all decades if your payroll is completely out of control because 80% of what you have are overpaid mediocre players that no one wants. And the other 20% (Lee, Balkman, maybe Curry) are not great enough to build *around* or to land players to build around

[Edited by - bonn1997 on 03-12-2007 12:43 PM]

Originally posted by misterearl:

Bonn1997 - if you look at the history of the Knicks franchise, dating back to the days of Gulf+Western, the objective has NEVER been to manage salaries. The Knicks have been top-bidder for players like Bob McAdoo, Truck Robinson, George McGinnis (to a league penalty), Kiki, Paul Westphal, Spencer Haywood...

Posted by misterearl:

Bonn - what was the first year of the salary cap?

Whatever year it was, the Knicks were at the front of the class determining the market.

Your 80 percent figure "for overpaid, mediocre players" is severely flawed... if not a downright falsehood. A majority of the Knicks roster is under 27 years old.

For that matter, in the context of what educators should be compensated for education our children, ALL NBA players are overpaid.

Don't get me started on what Britney Spears, Maria Sharipova or Tom Cruise makes.

The only mediocrity the Knicks are stuck in is the negative karma of pessimists who think they can predict the future.

Excelsior!

Posted by sebstar:

Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by sebstar:

How is he "hurting the team" when the Knicks eclipsed last years win total in February, and are controlling their own playoff destiny? Everything is laughably skewed towards the negative.

So what if the Knicks eclipsed last years win total when last year was the year in the history of the franchise. It's not like Isiah was part of last year, he was the GM that brought in Brown and he was the GM that brought in the players thadidn't work WITH Brown. It's not like this is year is a complete fresh-start for Isiah, he's been here for years and it's been nothing but mediocrity. Everything is laughably skewed towards the positive.

Confused at first sentence??? I will say this, who in the hell thought Larry Brown's hire would result in the unmitigated disaster that followed? Its not fair to rip him for that hire, rip the man that purposefully submarined the team in a power play move.

I know this is easy to say, but if you take last year's backwards evolutionary step out of the equation, the Knicks dont look as bad under Isiah's stewardship. In any event, the fact that you take such offense to positivity is a bit concerning. Work that ish out in your next therapy session, dog.

Posted by nixluva:

It's always so enjoyable to come here and find so many FAKE Knick fans, dumping on the team when it's currently in a playoff race for the 1st time in years. Why not be a REAL FAN and enjoy the intense games that will be played from here on out. Honestly I can't understand the thinking of some of you guys. Isiah actually has done a VERY good job with this team when you compare his work to that of guys like Bird, Ainge, Knight, etc. How many of these GM's are gonna get a pass from you guys while our team even with injuries is fighting hard and in the mix with all these supposed superior teams? Once Isiah washed the Stink of LB off this team they've been playing very well. NOT GREAT, but certainly showing improvement.

GIVE THE MAN SOME CREDIT!!!! GEEEZ!

Posted by sebstar:


I dont get it? Really I dont. Is this childish post some sort of running inside joke I'm missing out on? If so, where is the humor? If this post is legit, I really feel bad for you. Honestly. I appreciate the efforts of Martin and Andrew, but damn this board has fallin' off. This board has become a repository for mentally unstable attention seekers. Or gimmick posters.

Posted by misterearl:

NYT

>>...the Knicks under Thomas have grown into a competitive, united, extraordinarily resilient team. Whereas Brown alienated most of the locker room, Thomas has restored the team’s confidence and given it a renewed focus.

Eddy Curry is having his best professional season. David Lee has blossomed into one of the league’s best rebounders. And Stephon Marbury, who openly feuded with Brown, has redefined himself as a team-oriented point guard.

Bill Parcells

"You are what your record says you are."

29-34

Posted by islesfan:

Posted by misterearl:

NYT

>>...the Knicks under Thomas have grown into a competitive, united, extraordinarily resilient team. Whereas Brown alienated most of the locker room, Thomas has restored the team’s confidence and given it a renewed focus.

Eddy Curry is having his best professional season. David Lee has blossomed into one of the league’s best rebounders. And Stephon Marbury, who openly feuded with Brown, has redefined himself as a team-oriented point guard.

Bill Parcells

"You are what your record says you are."

29-34

The 8th best team in the east.

Posted by kam77:

Posted by islesfan:

Posted by misterearl:

NYT

>>...the Knicks under Thomas have grown into a competitive, united, extraordinarily resilient team. Whereas Brown alienated most of the locker room, Thomas has restored the team’s confidence and given it a renewed focus.

Eddy Curry is having his best professional season. David Lee has blossomed into one of the league’s best rebounders. And Stephon Marbury, who openly feuded with Brown, has redefined himself as a team-oriented point guard.

Bill Parcells

"You are what your record says you are."

29-34

The 8th best team in the east.

I was having doubts as to whether we were better than the Nets, Magic, or Hornets, but since isles insists we are...