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2/27/2007  2:33 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:

LOL @ some of the replies. This team loses Jamal Crawford and now all hope is gone. So is that how fragile this team is? I feel bad for Jamal and that's about it. His loss while significant shouldn't drown the ultimate success of this yr's team. There's 24gms left and if this team folds then what do we have?

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 02-27-2007 12:25 PM]

i agree with you, but cant you just see isiah spinning this as violin tragedy of mecca proportions to dolan and the NY media......all just to save his job.

i dont really agree with alot of people who support jamal on this board, but, nonetheless, it sucks to get hurt and people shouldnt be posting that it's "GOOD"...
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2/27/2007  2:33 PM
MS - is the name calling of Eddy Curry necessary?

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2/27/2007  2:33 PM
NEW YORK -- Monday, Jamal Crawford hit a late 3-pointer to give the New York Knicks a win over the Miami Heat.

Tuesday, the team learned he will likely require season-ending surgery on a stress fracture in his right ankle, though the team said it's possible he could return if the Knicks make the playoffs.

"It's very disappointing, honestly," Crawford told reporters on Tuesday. "You never expect anything like this to happen. I guess it's just part of life."


Crawford told reporters that surgery is "not definite, but a strong possibility." He also said he was told there were "no other options" to repair the fracture. He said he had been feeling pain in his ankle for a few weeks and had X-rays after Monday's game and an MRI and CT scan on Tuesday.

Crawford is scoring 17.9 points per game this season, making him the second-highest scorer on the Knicks. New York is 26-32 and was two games out of the eighth and final spot in the Eastern Conference playoffs entering Tuersday's game at Boston.
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2/27/2007  2:34 PM
Posted by bigbeast:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by BRIGGS:

Part of the NBA--good teams have to deal with it. I dont want to go over the many examples--like amare stoudemire out for a year and Phoenix still wins 60 games yada yada. Win or shut up.


How about when the Cavs lost Larry Hughes last yr for a huge chunk of games due to injuries and personal problems and still made the playoffs as a strong seed. How about this yr's Lakers losing Lamar Odom for 17gms while holding down the 5th and 6th seed in a very comeptitive Western Conference. What about the Rockets losing Yao Ming for 29gms while holding down 5th and 6th seed ditto Lakers. What about the Wizards losing Jamison 10gms and counting but still maintain the second best record in the Eastern Conference. What about the Nets losing Kristic and Jefferson a combined 55gms and counting staying within reach of an 8th to 7th seed. What about the Hornets losing Chris Paul, David West, Peja Stojacovich a combined 87gms and within 1 gm of a playoff spot. I won't bother to mention Miami.


I don't feel sympathy for the team losing Jamal vs feeling sympathy for Jamal personally.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 02-27-2007 1:04 PM]

Not making excuses, but who on the Knicks can carry a team for stretches like Kobe?

Who can carry this team like Lebron? TMac? Arenas? Kidd? Carter?

[Edited by - bigbeast on 02-27-2007 2:26 PM]


That's why I mentioned where they stood or stand after the injuries. Meaning those teams didn't just flounder but they maintained and in some cases PHX losing Amare even got stronger in some repects. On the other hand you have posters saying with the loss of Jamal then absolutely all hope is gone. Sorry you couldn't put this together. Or in other words you're simply admitting this team has no FRANCHISE player and this is what has the so called HATERS skeptical until this changes.

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2/27/2007  2:34 PM
he could be back for the playoffs that is very good news
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2/27/2007  2:36 PM
Posted by MS:

I think if we were actually coached the right way all season the team would be at 500 but isiah has been using the wrong combinations all season long.

1. He really dropped the ball with Frye, and made him a lost soul to try to show dolan that eddy was worth all the trouble, Frye has floated around the perimeter and his rebounding has suffered as has his shooting percentage.
2. Starting Marbury and Francis
3. Not starting David Lee
4. Giving Crawford the eternal green light
5. Turnovers and technicals
6. No emphasis on defense
7. Starting Jerome James
8. Not playing Balkman over jefferies
9. Never using Q in the post

We have a deeper team than miami when one of their stars is down, they don't have that deep of a team and are slow and old, there is a reason their guards didn't embarras us.

I think in all of the excuse making (we can't play in front of a hostile crowd, the fans don't know what i know, give us time, etc), putting the blame in different places, and telling us how important jefferies was, Isiah forgot that he needs to focus on taking care of the ball, playing defense and using the right combination of players.....

so now it's the coaching... seems like you're the only one making excuses for why this team hasn't won any games instead of realizing that we don't have the talent or know how yet to be a contender... these guys are still gelling as a team, & they need to keep developing & growing... this wasn't a playoff team at the beginning of the season & they certainly aren't one now w/1 of their main scorers on the mend for the rest of the year... if they squeak in it will be because teams that should be better than they are have underachieved this season, like the Magic, Heat or Nets.

now if you want to respond w/some stupid backhanded insult again, don't bother... if you want to debate the topic, i'm good w/that too.
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2/27/2007  2:37 PM
Posted by Solace:
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I agree, no excuse.

This is worst than Wade

You violated your statement in the next sentence. How is the Knicks losing Chuckford worse than the Heat losing finals MVP Dwayne Wade???

So now Shaq is just a role player? The Heat is suppose to the be the better team with or without Wade. Correct? Knicks put together a bunch of guys who have low BB IQ. You can't have the Heat challenging for the Eastern Conference finals one moment then give them a built-in excuse the next because Wade goes down. As I mentioned you can't call Shaq an all-star one moment and then say without Wade they have an excuse. If there are no "superstars" on the Knicks then every contribution counts. Its either or. Either Shaq is a true Superstar/HOF player and can overcome not having the likes of Wade to win the 8th playoff spot in a weak conference. Remember Ewing did that in his sleep on a regular basis.

Wade is a SUPERSTAR. Yes, the Heat should make the playoffs. I never excused them from that, so if you think I did, you're getting me confused with someone else. But they are excused from doing much past that if they wind up missing their best player for any stretch of the playoffs.
& dude, the Heat won the championships last season w/this same team... even if you take D Wade out of their rotation you'd expect them to at least nab a #8 seed... i don't want to hear any excuses if they don't make it now if you're going to hold the Knicks to that type of standard.

same goes for the Nets... all i ever hear out of you & others is how much better J Kidd & Vince are than any other player we have... if those 2 are elite level talent, you'd expect them to carry that team to a playoff berth also... all your constant whining about how bad our talent is, & then you switch stance as soon as an injury happens to 1 of our guys, who you have gone on record as saying is the most inconsistent & maddening player on this team, & now all of a sudden this team is deep with talent & there's no excuse for them not making the playoffs.

in the words of TMS, STFU.

I mentioned the Heat above; I think there's been a misunderstanding, since I've rarely talked about the Heat, nor given them a pass. As for the Nets, they've been shorthanded all season, all of their injures have been among their top four players, and at times they've been missing two of their top four players. The equivalent of the injuries the Nets had this season would be David Lee going down for the season and various injuries among the others. Quite frankly, the Nets might not make the playoffs if they stayed healthy, as Toronto has been playing so well.. but I didn't anticipate Toronto advancing this quickly. Aside from Toronto's success, I felt the Nets were the best team in a very weak division.

The Nets clearly need to rebuild now, as they're getting older and are missing an essential piece that they won't be able to acquire without making some moves. However, that being said, it's not unreasonable, going into the season, to think that the Nets would be a 45-50 win team.

just so i'm clear, i didn't direct the last reply to you Solace.
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2/27/2007  2:37 PM
Posted by jimimou:
Posted by TrueBlue:

LOL @ some of the replies. This team loses Jamal Crawford and now all hope is gone. So is that how fragile this team is? I feel bad for Jamal and that's about it. His loss while significant shouldn't drown the ultimate success of this yr's team. There's 24gms left and if this team folds then what do we have?

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 02-27-2007 12:25 PM]

i agree with you, but cant you just see isiah spinning this as violin tragedy of mecca proportions to dolan and the NY media......all just to save his job.

i dont really agree with alot of people who support jamal on this board, but, nonetheless, it sucks to get hurt and people shouldnt be posting that it's "GOOD"...

Dude ISAYUGH has been talking Tragedy and Sweet Nothings to Dolan all yr and it has worked. This means nothing to me in regards to ISAYUGH's future but it means everything how badly this team is contructed when the sky falls because Jamal is injured.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 02-27-2007 1:40 PM]
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2/27/2007  2:39 PM
Are you Currys brother?

He might be the most overweight starter in the entire NBA, and he rarely tries, never steps up when a defender is in the paint and never commits a hard foul.

So yes, if you have the talent to be one of the best players in the nba and the only thing that is preventing you from doing so is effort i have the right as a paying fan to say what i want.

When he does well and gives the effort i am the first person to support, but you don't give the effort you get what you get
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2/27/2007  2:42 PM
MS - is the best you can offer another insult.
Why the obsession with Eddy Curry's weight?

and why is 28 and 11 not good enough for your standards of perfection?
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2/27/2007  2:43 PM
Now, back to Jamal.

The young man was fearless and played an intuitive game of basketball.

He will be missed.
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2/27/2007  2:43 PM
wow yall are so busy arguing over NOTHING that u diddnt even see my post that JAMAL MIGhT COME BACK FOR THE PLAYOFFS
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2/27/2007  2:43 PM
Posted by TMS:

just so i'm clear, i didn't direct the last reply to you Solace.

Damn, I failed to draw your ire again. I'll need to try harder. Would bashing A-Rod do it?

j/k
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2/27/2007  2:44 PM
an intuitive game of basketball? lol is that a good thing?
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2/27/2007  2:45 PM
Posted by Elite:

wow yall are so busy arguing over NOTHING that u diddnt even see my post that JAMAL MIGhT COME BACK FOR THE PLAYOFFS

That's great.

But we'd have to make the playoffs.

This is still the Knicks.
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2/27/2007  2:46 PM
Posted by misterearl:

Now, back to Jamal.

The young man was fearless and played an intuitive game of basketball.

He will be missed.

Reading your post, it sounds like this was a fatal ankle injury.
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2/27/2007  2:49 PM
TMS there is no debating if you think that Isiah has done a good job coaching this team, using the right players, and see progress out there?

We are one of the most turnover prone teams in the league, one of the worst defensive teams in the leauge, lead the the league in techicals.

We have talent here be realistic.

Crawford I don't love him, but he would be one of the better sixth men in the league and one of the leagues best off the dribble players.......

Curry he is a top 7-9 Center in the league

Lee I think you might take 10 power fowards over him (Howard, Bosh, O'neil, Garnett, Dirk, Brand, Amare, Wallace, Odom, Duncan)

Marbury is a competant starter, not spectacular but knows how to get the job done

Q Rich is a middle of the road guy, but he rebounds exceptional at 7 a game and plays solid defense

So I think if you really match us up with a lot of the teams in the east there isn;t a huge talent drop off, we are pretty similiar, if we didn't start francis at the begining of the season and just played at home we would be .500 and in the playoff picture and thats not to say we played amazing.....I think Isiah also cost us a few games with his play calling (please don't tell me throwing the ball to david lee for an opp the couldn't complete 100 times if they tried was genius), timeouts, and the fact that we never use our foul to give and it almost cost us two more games (utah and detriot)

Yeah i think we should be better than we are
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2/27/2007  2:49 PM
Because if eddy curry was 20 pounds lighter which he should be he would be that much better
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2/27/2007  2:51 PM
MS - talent requires time to cohere

Solace - me thinketh thou attempts to readeth between the lines way too much

Crawford will be missed

It ain't that deep

[Edited by - misterearl on 02-27-2007 2:52 PM]
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2/27/2007  2:54 PM
MS - and if you had three wheels you would be a tricycle

Leave Eddy to his development, at his pace, without the personal insults.

The 24 year-old young man is progressing just fine, thank you
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