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It's shocking how Isiah isn't gone at this point...
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islesfan
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1/17/2007  12:33 AM
Posted by holfresh:
Posted by Allanfan20:
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Just one thing about the tread you started..Are you really serious??..Have your forgotten the days of Lameden( Layden) and the other lame GMs..Isiah probably drafted better guys in three years than Knicks GMs in the last 20 years collectively..Ewing drafted 21 years ago...Think about that..We had one guy to stick on the roster, Charlie Ward...Think about that..


What does that have to do with anything? I said Isiah was solid but overrated. Are we gonna say Isiah should get mega credit b/c he drafter better than crappy drafters? Is this another example of lowering our standards? This is Isiah's wetdream. He loves when people say he's great compared to crap. You can tell in interviews how he brags about it. I think deep down, he knows he's done crap as a Knicks GM.

How about player development...This Curry trade could turn into a coop...Just ask Chicago fans if they want to redo that deal...How many guys you know can draft, coach, develop players...I'm not saying all his moves are great but I think you guys are looking at the glass full ..



[Edited by - holfresh on 01-17-2007 12:29 AM]

Umm, that's the problem, you and others only see the glass as full.
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1/17/2007  12:37 AM

The Knicks' core is young (23-24) and approaching .500...Young center bordering all stardom..I think the glass is half full..

islesfan
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1/17/2007  12:43 AM
The Knicks core is young and full of one dimensional role players. They're still well below .500 with a really tough schedule the next 2 months. The young center is borderline pathetic in terms of his defense and rebounding.

I think Isiah broke the glass.
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1/17/2007  12:46 AM
Posted by islesfan:

The Knicks core is young and full of one dimensional role players. They're still well below .500 with a really tough schedule the next 2 months. The young center is borderline pathetic in terms of his defense and rebounding.

I think Isiah broke the glass.

That would define half full...
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1/17/2007  8:50 AM
>>I said Isiah was solid but overrated.

Allanfan, why not simply say he's a solid draft person and leave it at that?

Over-rated does not mean anything. Calling someone "over-rated" must assume that some "rating" system was already in place.

>>Are we gonna say Isiah should get mega credit b/c he drafter better than crappy drafters?

Mega-credit? Nope. Just a recognition that he has cultivated six picks in three drafts that are on active NBA rosters. That ain't bad.

Ariza, Balkman, Robinson, Frye, Lee and Mardy "The Hitman" Collins

If you look at the entire draft history of the Knicks franchise since 1946, one could submit that the brief Isiah Thomas draft resume holds up against any General Manager that preceeded him.

That is a period of over 50 years.

once a knick always a knick
It's shocking how Isiah isn't gone at this point...

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