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nyk4ever
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12/29/2006  1:38 PM
Why bother Bip? Honestly.
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12/29/2006  1:39 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:

Why bother Bip? Honestly.

Obviouisly because I'm insane
I just hope that people will like me
holfresh
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12/29/2006  2:17 PM
Posted by misterearl:

"It's just guys stepping up," said David Lee, "Everybody's taking turns, stepping up and making big plays, and that's what good teams do."

"I think in the last two weeks, since the Utah game, we've really grown up and we're playing together," said Jamal Crawford, who fed Frye for his game-tying shot in the second OT. "And not just because of the brawl. It was just a matter of time."

"This is what it's like to coach a really young team," Thomas said, "a young team that's trying to work its way through the NBA."

Earl you might as well drag your fingernails down the blackboard because all these positives are the last thing the Larry lovers and haters want to hear...
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12/29/2006  2:18 PM
you forgot to add Net fans to the list.
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12/29/2006  2:28 PM
Posted by holfresh:
Posted by misterearl:

"It's just guys stepping up," said David Lee, "Everybody's taking turns, stepping up and making big plays, and that's what good teams do."

"I think in the last two weeks, since the Utah game, we've really grown up and we're playing together," said Jamal Crawford, who fed Frye for his game-tying shot in the second OT. "And not just because of the brawl. It was just a matter of time."

"This is what it's like to coach a really young team," Thomas said, "a young team that's trying to work its way through the NBA."

Earl you might as well drag your fingernails down the blackboard because all these positives are the last thing the Larry lovers and haters want to hear...

Yeah, because you and earl are the objective ones on this board.
If it didn’t work in Phoenix with Nash and Stoutamire... it’s just not a winning formula. It’s an entertaining formula, but not a winning one. - Derek Harper talking about D'Antoni's System
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12/29/2006  2:30 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by holfresh:
Posted by misterearl:

"It's just guys stepping up," said David Lee, "Everybody's taking turns, stepping up and making big plays, and that's what good teams do."

"I think in the last two weeks, since the Utah game, we've really grown up and we're playing together," said Jamal Crawford, who fed Frye for his game-tying shot in the second OT. "And not just because of the brawl. It was just a matter of time."

"This is what it's like to coach a really young team," Thomas said, "a young team that's trying to work its way through the NBA."

Earl you might as well drag your fingernails down the blackboard because all these positives are the last thing the Larry lovers and haters want to hear...

Yeah, because you and earl are the objective ones on this board.

Pot calling the Kettle black????...
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12/29/2006  2:35 PM
Posted by holfresh:



Pot calling the Kettle black????...


Isles never said he was objective and I'm just guessing, but I bet he'd tell you he's not objective too.

Anyways, his point is still dead on.
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12/29/2006  2:39 PM
Posted by holfresh:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by holfresh:
Posted by misterearl:

"It's just guys stepping up," said David Lee, "Everybody's taking turns, stepping up and making big plays, and that's what good teams do."

"I think in the last two weeks, since the Utah game, we've really grown up and we're playing together," said Jamal Crawford, who fed Frye for his game-tying shot in the second OT. "And not just because of the brawl. It was just a matter of time."

"This is what it's like to coach a really young team," Thomas said, "a young team that's trying to work its way through the NBA."

Earl you might as well drag your fingernails down the blackboard because all these positives are the last thing the Larry lovers and haters want to hear...

Yeah, because you and earl are the objective ones on this board.

Pot calling the Kettle black????...

When did I deny that I'm a hater?

As opposed to you suggesting that you and earl don't fall into either the Larry Lover or Hater categories.

So no, this isn't a case of the pot calling the kettle black.
If it didn’t work in Phoenix with Nash and Stoutamire... it’s just not a winning formula. It’s an entertaining formula, but not a winning one. - Derek Harper talking about D'Antoni's System
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12/29/2006  2:43 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by holfresh:



Pot calling the Kettle black????...


Isles never said he was objective and I'm just guessing, but I bet he'd tell you he's not objective too.

Anyways, his point is still dead on.

Have you ever seen the movie the Coneheads...remember the INS agent that chased Beldar around trying to deport him...Later he became the yes guy that repeated whatever figure of power uttered...Thats what I see you becoming...Get you own opinion....
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12/29/2006  2:47 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by holfresh:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by holfresh:
Posted by misterearl:

"It's just guys stepping up," said David Lee, "Everybody's taking turns, stepping up and making big plays, and that's what good teams do."

"I think in the last two weeks, since the Utah game, we've really grown up and we're playing together," said Jamal Crawford, who fed Frye for his game-tying shot in the second OT. "And not just because of the brawl. It was just a matter of time."

"This is what it's like to coach a really young team," Thomas said, "a young team that's trying to work its way through the NBA."

Earl you might as well drag your fingernails down the blackboard because all these positives are the last thing the Larry lovers and haters want to hear...

Yeah, because you and earl are the objective ones on this board.

Pot calling the Kettle black????...

When did I deny that I'm a hater?

As opposed to you suggesting that you and earl don't fall into either the Larry Lover or Hater categories.

So no, this isn't a case of the pot calling the kettle black.

The reference of Pot calling the kettle black has nothing to do with denial in most cases....It's more to do with someone having a slanted opinion or viewpoint pointing out someone having a slanted opinion or viewpoint....So you are a poster child of this phenomena..
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12/29/2006  2:47 PM
Posted by holfresh:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by holfresh:



Pot calling the Kettle black????...


Isles never said he was objective and I'm just guessing, but I bet he'd tell you he's not objective too.

Anyways, his point is still dead on.

Have you ever seen the movie the Coneheads...remember the INS agent that chased Beldar around trying to deport him...Later he became the yes guy that repeated whatever figure of power uttered...Thats what I see you becoming...Get you own opinion....


Got one!

Besides, don't you think what you just said is a bit of a contradiction? You parrot everyone single word that Isiah Thomas says.

Polly want a cracker?
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islesfan
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12/29/2006  2:48 PM
nyk4ever, he's quoting the Coneheads movie, don't sweat him.

It's pretty damn funny that you just described what misterearl already is but you don't seem to call him out for that.

But I guess you would stick up for the only other "objective" person on this board, besides yourself of course.
If it didn’t work in Phoenix with Nash and Stoutamire... it’s just not a winning formula. It’s an entertaining formula, but not a winning one. - Derek Harper talking about D'Antoni's System
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12/29/2006  2:50 PM
Posted by holfresh:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by holfresh:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by holfresh:
Posted by misterearl:

"It's just guys stepping up," said David Lee, "Everybody's taking turns, stepping up and making big plays, and that's what good teams do."

"I think in the last two weeks, since the Utah game, we've really grown up and we're playing together," said Jamal Crawford, who fed Frye for his game-tying shot in the second OT. "And not just because of the brawl. It was just a matter of time."

"This is what it's like to coach a really young team," Thomas said, "a young team that's trying to work its way through the NBA."

Earl you might as well drag your fingernails down the blackboard because all these positives are the last thing the Larry lovers and haters want to hear...

Yeah, because you and earl are the objective ones on this board.

Pot calling the Kettle black????...

When did I deny that I'm a hater?

As opposed to you suggesting that you and earl don't fall into either the Larry Lover or Hater categories.

So no, this isn't a case of the pot calling the kettle black.

The reference of Pot calling the kettle black has nothing to do with denial in most cases....It's more to do with someone having a slanted opinion or viewpoint pointing out someone having a slanted opinion or viewpoint....So you are a poster child of this phenomena..


Whatever, as long as you admit that you're the kettle.
If it didn’t work in Phoenix with Nash and Stoutamire... it’s just not a winning formula. It’s an entertaining formula, but not a winning one. - Derek Harper talking about D'Antoni's System
holfresh
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12/29/2006  2:55 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by holfresh:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by holfresh:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by holfresh:
Posted by misterearl:

"It's just guys stepping up," said David Lee, "Everybody's taking turns, stepping up and making big plays, and that's what good teams do."

"I think in the last two weeks, since the Utah game, we've really grown up and we're playing together," said Jamal Crawford, who fed Frye for his game-tying shot in the second OT. "And not just because of the brawl. It was just a matter of time."

"This is what it's like to coach a really young team," Thomas said, "a young team that's trying to work its way through the NBA."

Earl you might as well drag your fingernails down the blackboard because all these positives are the last thing the Larry lovers and haters want to hear...

Yeah, because you and earl are the objective ones on this board.

Pot calling the Kettle black????...

When did I deny that I'm a hater?

As opposed to you suggesting that you and earl don't fall into either the Larry Lover or Hater categories.

So no, this isn't a case of the pot calling the kettle black.

The reference of Pot calling the kettle black has nothing to do with denial in most cases....It's more to do with someone having a slanted opinion or viewpoint pointing out someone having a slanted opinion or viewpoint....So you are a poster child of this phenomena..


Whatever, as long as you admit that you're the kettle.

Well I look at it as the definition of being a fan...Looking at the positives in your team...Yeah, I'm definitely guilty of that....



[Edited by - holfresh on 12-29-2006 2:56 PM]
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12/29/2006  3:03 PM
Posted by holfresh:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by holfresh:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by holfresh:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by holfresh:
Posted by misterearl:

"It's just guys stepping up," said David Lee, "Everybody's taking turns, stepping up and making big plays, and that's what good teams do."

"I think in the last two weeks, since the Utah game, we've really grown up and we're playing together," said Jamal Crawford, who fed Frye for his game-tying shot in the second OT. "And not just because of the brawl. It was just a matter of time."

"This is what it's like to coach a really young team," Thomas said, "a young team that's trying to work its way through the NBA."

Earl you might as well drag your fingernails down the blackboard because all these positives are the last thing the Larry lovers and haters want to hear...

Yeah, because you and earl are the objective ones on this board.

Pot calling the Kettle black????...

When did I deny that I'm a hater?

As opposed to you suggesting that you and earl don't fall into either the Larry Lover or Hater categories.

So no, this isn't a case of the pot calling the kettle black.

The reference of Pot calling the kettle black has nothing to do with denial in most cases....It's more to do with someone having a slanted opinion or viewpoint pointing out someone having a slanted opinion or viewpoint....So you are a poster child of this phenomena..


Whatever, as long as you admit that you're the kettle.

Well I look at it as the definition of being a fan...Looking at the positives in your team...Yeah, I'm definitely guilty of that....



[Edited by - holfresh on 12-29-2006 2:56 PM]

Well you're just the bestest fan in the whole wide world, aren't you?
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12/29/2006  8:11 PM
isles...rare form tonight...but atleast funny.

keep it up.
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12/29/2006  9:28 PM
Posted by Bippity10:

Misterearl: Those assessments are all true. And once again goes to prove my point of the oil and water mix we had last year. IF you want someone who is patient and will teach the young guys and build their confidence you don't go out and hire a guy that is known for breaking guys down. That was our mistake last year. Why does it seem so obvious to me and not to others. LB was not part of any plan. He was available, sounded good, so we hired him without any thought for our long-term future. Same thing we did with Jalen, Stevie, Mo Taylor, JJ, Mark Strickland, Mark Jackson(teh second time) etc.

If you are going young and want them to grow you don't go and hire a coach becasue he is available. You hire the best fit. If you have a young team that needs to be built. You find a guy that is good at working with young guys and will build confidence. You don't hire LB because he's not going to do that. If you hire LB be prepared to watch your rookies sit and to bring in a group of vets who already know how to play the game. He has a 30 year history of that, so where is the confusion.

Anyone notice that when Bill Parcells goes somewhere half the team is immediately jettisoned and replaced with players that played with him on other teams. These are the actions of a disciplinarian. Everything you guys say is true. I am not arguing with you one bit. LB did not want to coach this squad as constructed. He wanted Marbs gone as well. He did not coach the team the way it was supposed to be coached. That is his fault. He quit on our roster. Our roster quit on us. And our GM messed up by hiring a guy that didn't fit.

[Edited by - bippity10 on 12-29-2006 12:57 PM]

He quit on our roster. Our roster quit on us. And our GM messed up by hiring a guy that didn't fit.

That basically sums up everything. But why does your post allways seem to have the feeling that Brown didn't do anything wrong. I mean you love to bring up how the players quit last season. But yet when the fact that Brown quit is brought up. Its like will its Isiahs fault for hiring him. While thats true. And while I agree with your post. NOBODY i mean NOBODY though that Brown was going to turn in the worst coaching job in the history of the NBA.

But I agree with what your saying about the lack of a true plan of assembling the proper players and the proper coach to make this a championship calibre team over the yrs.
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12/29/2006  11:50 PM
I agree that sometimes people somehow blame Isiah for hiring Brown. Like this is one more reason to fire him. Who knew LB was gonna turn into the biggest jackoff to ever coach a Knick team. Of course he didn't fit the personnel. But if he was willing to try, and by accepting the $$$ you have to assume he was going to try to make it work, who was Isiah to question the fit? LB's record supposedly spoke for itself. He was a teacher first and foremost. And we had a lot of young players.
Mike and the Mad dog pulled the same crap. Isiah should be held accountable for hiring LB. Forget that the guy had a track record that was top ten all time. Isiah should have read his crystal ball and knew LB would basically quit on him.
What a bunch of horsecrap from the LB apologists.
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Posted by rojasmas:

I agree that sometimes people somehow blame Isiah for hiring Brown. Like this is one more reason to fire him. Who knew LB was gonna turn into the biggest jackoff to ever coach a Knick team. Of course he didn't fit the personnel. But if he was willing to try, and by accepting the $$$ you have to assume he was going to try to make it work, who was Isiah to question the fit? LB's record supposedly spoke for itself. He was a teacher first and foremost. And we had a lot of young players.
Mike and the Mad dog pulled the same crap. Isiah should be held accountable for hiring LB. Forget that the guy had a track record that was top ten all time. Isiah should have read his crystal ball and knew LB would basically quit on him.
What a bunch of horsecrap from the LB apologists.

Everyone knows Browns past and if you don't and you're a GM in the NBA then you're absolutely lost. Everyone knows that Brown works a certain way, if that way doesn't fit your style then don't hire him. It's plain and simple. Brown didn't do a good job but he was out of his element coaching the team, just like the team was out of their element playing for him.
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12/30/2006  9:33 AM
Dolan sez LB hiring was mainly Dolan.

oohah

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