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What was Isiah thinking with 2 minutes to go in a game down by only 6 points?
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Anji
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11/20/2006  10:46 AM
I think Isiah was trying to take blame from the players for the lose and put it on himself....
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11/20/2006  11:00 AM
Posted by Anji:

I think Isiah was trying to take blame from the players for the lose and put it on himself....

Down 6 with 2 mins to go I'd rather he go for the win.
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11/20/2006  11:05 AM
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11/20/2006  11:14 AM
We lost by 4. Obviously those 2 points given away did matter.
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11/20/2006  11:19 AM
Posted by BlueSeats:
Posted by Anji:

I think Isiah was trying to take blame from the players for the lose and put it on himself....

Down 6 with 2 mins to go I'd rather he go for the win.
Didn't say it was right, but I do think that is what he was thinking. Show that he cares when they play good..... just what I think.


[Edited by - anji on 11-20-2006 11:20 AM]
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11/20/2006  11:23 AM
Posted by Anji:
Posted by BlueSeats:
Posted by Anji:

I think Isiah was trying to take blame from the players for the lose and put it on himself....

Down 6 with 2 mins to go I'd rather he go for the win.
Didn't say it was right, but I do think that is what he was thinking.


Perhaps, but it's not a good sign if he has so little confidence his team can pull out a close game against the struggling Celtics.

And if his players pick up on that, what kind of message does it send to them?
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11/20/2006  12:57 PM
Posted by BlueSeats:
Posted by Anji:
Posted by BlueSeats:
Posted by Anji:

I think Isiah was trying to take blame from the players for the lose and put it on himself....

Down 6 with 2 mins to go I'd rather he go for the win.
Didn't say it was right, but I do think that is what he was thinking.


And if his players pick up on that, what kind of message does it send to them?




I asked this ? several post ago and never got a valid answer from the Zeke apologists. They were at home and it's a given a team should try to win all the games they can at home especially with 2+min only down by 2 possessions.
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11/20/2006  1:04 PM
Here's what it comes down to:

Some people think that although they would have been underdogs, even severe underdogs, to come back and win that game, they still had a chance. But giving up 2 points there greatly hurt their chance to come back.

While other people think that it was an absolute impossibility for the Knicks to come back, even without giving up those 2 points.

The funny thing is that if the Knicks had come back from 6 points down with more than 2 minutes to play and the ball, nobody would think it was an all time great, against all odds comeback for the ages. It would barely have been a footnote, if that.
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Posted by islesfan:

The funny thing is that if the Knicks had come back from 6 points down with more than 2 minutes to play and the ball, nobody would think it was an all time great, against all odds comeback for the ages. It would barely have been a footnote, if that.

More like this team is on a one way ticket to the Finals if they would have beat the Celtics. All you can do is laugh out loud at the other side of the argument.
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11/20/2006  1:30 PM
6 points down and 2 minutes to go? Isnt there a mercy rule in the NBA that stops games at that point?
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11/20/2006  1:38 PM
Posted by martin:

here's the thing though if you are a coach: Quiters quit, champions never give up.
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Yeah, tell that to LB.
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11/20/2006  1:41 PM
Posted by Killa4luv:
Posted by martin:

here's the thing though if you are a coach: Quiters quit, champions never give up.

Yeah, tell that to LB.




Leave LB out of this he had nothing to do with that game.



[Edited by - SeatsBlue on 11-20-2006 12:42 PM]
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11/20/2006  1:46 PM
Posted by oohah:

Hey guys, I gotta go. We are going in circles anyway. IT's technicals had nothing to do with the loss. The KNicks lost because they fell apart after they took the lead. Complaining about the Techs is just targeting IT because you don't like him.
I have to agree with this. The technicals didn't help us, but neither did the bad call by the rafs that he got the techs for, and neither did our lack of execution in the minutes prior.

I do find it interesting that those who are typical Isiah bashers, and who in some way root for the knicks demise, stand on the side of the argument that says we could have won. If we could have won down 6 we could have won down 8 too right?
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11/20/2006  1:53 PM
Posted by Killa4luv:

typical Isiah bashers, and who in some way root for the knicks demise

C'mon Killa, don't act like people were rooting for the team to lose when we were at the game, yo. You know that wasn't the case...
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11/20/2006  1:59 PM
Posted by Killa4luv:
Posted by oohah:

Hey guys, I gotta go. We are going in circles anyway. IT's technicals had nothing to do with the loss. The KNicks lost because they fell apart after they took the lead. Complaining about the Techs is just targeting IT because you don't like him.


I do find it interesting that those who are typical Isiah bashers, and who in some way root for the knicks demise, stand on the side of the argument that says we could have won. If we could have won down 6 we could have won down 8 too right?



Uhhhhhhhh Yes but he made a 2 possession game become a 3 possession game.
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11/20/2006  2:02 PM
Posted by Killa4luv:

If we could have won down 6 we could have won down 8 too right?
Thats exactly it! And I think Isiah saw that the team was in need of a spark and he saw the bs call on Nate and those two together made him either snap or calculate his reaction. I've seen that work. It was either Sloan whose team was down by 6 to 10 points and the other team was pulling away. He got in the refs face, got thrown out which pretty much energized the whole team and they used it in the game and won.

I think it was worth a try for Isiah. Imagine if it had worked. People would say that this is a team full of pansies that require the coach to get them going!
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11/20/2006  2:03 PM
Posted by Killa4luv:
Posted by oohah:

Hey guys, I gotta go. We are going in circles anyway. IT's technicals had nothing to do with the loss. The KNicks lost because they fell apart after they took the lead. Complaining about the Techs is just targeting IT because you don't like him.
I have to agree with this. The technicals didn't help us, but neither did the bad call by the rafs that he got the techs for, and neither did our lack of execution in the minutes prior.

I do find it interesting that those who are typical Isiah bashers, and who in some way root for the knicks demise, stand on the side of the argument that says we could have won. If we could have won down 6 we could have won down 8 too right?

Coming back from 6 is easier than coming back from 8, right?

Do you think that it was impossible for the Knicks to come back from 6 points down at that point?
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Posted by Silverfuel:
Posted by Killa4luv:

If we could have won down 6 we could have won down 8 too right?
Thats exactly it! And I think Isiah saw that the team was in need of a spark and he saw the bs call on Nate and those two together made him either snap or calculate his reaction. I've seen that work. It was either Sloan whose team was down by 6 to 10 points and the other team was pulling away. He got in the refs face, got thrown out which pretty much energized the whole team and they used it in the game and won.

I think it was worth a try for Isiah. Imagine if it had worked. People would say that this is a team full of pansies that require the coach to get them going!

Zeke didn't give that kind of reasoning when he explained his reaction to the press. He so much as apologized for his outburst. Nice to know we have people thinking for him though.
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11/20/2006  2:19 PM
Yes the technicals were dumb, but from watching the entire game it was clear we weren't going to pull it out. I find it funny that everyone who thinks we could have pulled it out are the ones who bash the coach and players the most.
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