Posted by nixluva:

Posted by nyk4ever:

If the Knicks play Team basketball and Marbury, Curry, Frye are all playing good defense you can come knocking at my door and I will be right there saying you guys were right. I'm firm in my beliefs but I also know when I'm wrong. I don't think I'll be wrong here but I'll be happy if I am because if those guys do that than the Knicks will be winning basketball games and that is by far the most important thing.

How about if the team simply WINS no matter how it gets that done? Its to vague to say playing good defense. If they play well enough to win games that is sufficient. Not every team is going to be good on both ends. Tho I expect the defense to be better than last year. For one thing there will be consistency and that alone helps ANY team to play better defense. I'm not expecting miracles tho. Having Jared will help cuz now at least we have someone who can hold his own in most cases at the SF spot where we often got torched.

Look this is an OFFENSIVE team and if we're functioning on a high level as we should that will put more pressure on the other team. We didn't see that last year for a lot of reasons. Tho this team should've been a VERY good offensive team. I expect that to actually happen this year. I thought we'd have to win with our offense last year and nothing much has changed. Sure we'll have to be better defensively, but this ain't the Pistons. In truth teams often blew us out, cuz we SUCKED on offense. It was easy to defend our lame attack thanks to LB. We made too many TO's, most of which were unforced. I think that will change due to having an offense that actually fits the players strengths. We're gonna put points up and we'll have to use TIMELY defensive stops to win games, cuz we can't expect this team to defend great for 48 minutes. Its just not equipped to be that kind of team. But I think you'll all be pleasantly surprised with how much better we look on D this year. We may start off slow, but I expect things to pick up as the team gets more familiar with the new system.

Posted by rvhoss:

among other people!

Posted by simrud:

a sing sign for IT to be let go.

Uh oh, simrud is gonna sing???

Posted by nixluva:


If you were paying attention you would've noticed that defense was on the minds of our players in Summer League and on the lips of Isiah and the coaching staff. He has no intention of letting them feel its ok not to play hard on D. Did you just take a super long vacation or did you just ignore the fact that Isiah got a bunch of defensive players for this team. One who will be a starter, in Jared Jeffries. Cleearly he wants the team to play better D. However, tho I expect a better effort, that still won't mean we'll be a top defensive team, nor does it mean we have to be the best. This is a PROCESS and this team has so many young players that its gonna take time for us to develop great defensive chemistry. We're not going from the worst to the best over night. So I'm being reasonable in my expectations for the defense this year. However I expect that the defense will continue to improve steadily. Just don't expect the Pistons lite.

So that's why I say we'll win games more with our offense than our D. We'll play just enough D to win games.

Wow, so your saying just because a FEW guys on the summerleague roster played defense; mind you guys that are fighting just to earn the right to play in the NBA. So because they played defense now players like Stephon Marbury, Steve Francis, Eddy Curry, Jerome James, Maurice Taylor etc etc are going to now start playing defense? These guys all have their guarenteed contracts, they will play in the NBA again if they are cut or traded from the Knicks, these guys don't have a THING to worry about, which is much much much different than the guys who played on the summer roster have to worry about.

Defense is about WILL, nothing more nothing less. If your in the NBA, then you can play defense, you just have to want to and clearly these Knick players(minus Crawford, Lee, Jeffries) don't want to play defense because they haven't played it for the Knicks or for any other team. According to you though, now that Isiah is the coach, the team is magically going to change and he's going to say, play defense and their going to run right out there and play defense. I'm sorry but I don't see that happening not with the personalities that are on this team and not with the way they've conducted themselves in the past with other teams and with the Knicks.

Posted by Masterplan:

If you were paying attention you would've noticed that defense was on the minds of our players in Summer League and on the lips of Isiah and the coaching staff. He has no intention of letting them feel its ok not to play hard on D.

not to open up a can of worms or anything, but that sounds a lot like last summer/last coach...

Defense is about WILL, nothing more nothing less. If your in the NBA, then you can play defense, you just have to want to and clearly these Knick players(minus Crawford, Lee, Jeffries) don't want to play defense because they haven't played it for the Knicks or for any other team. According to you though, now that Isiah is the coach, the team is magically going to change and he's going to say, play defense and their going to run right out there and play defense. I'm sorry but I don't see that happening not with the personalities that are on this team and not with the way they've conducted themselves in the past with other teams and with the Knicks.