Posted by Bonn1997:

Those are bizarre assumptions based on Brown's actual statements

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by BlueSeats:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Those are bizarre assumptions based on Brown's actual statements

Lord knows who you are talking to or about what, but I'll bite:

Oh yeah, like what?

See statements by Brown at the beginning of this thread. None mention interest in any "other players"; they all express extremely high praise for/interest in J. Rose and Francis

Man you're a lazy poster. How 'bout quoting things you consider crucial to your case?

Are these to quotes to which you refer?

This is Brown and Thomas discussing Francis and Rose......
Quote:
"He's exactly what we need," Brown said before the game. "I think it's a no-brainer. I haven't seen a drop-off in his game. We don't have enough ball-handlers, guys that have experience back there."


Quote:
“This is a move that coach and I have been talking about and we are both in agreement. This is a (small forward) spot where he’s had a lot of people trying to fill that void. This is a player that Larry wanted. And I will continue to go out and try to get the players that he wants.”

Those came after the trade when they were in PR mode. What do you expect, Brown to hold a press conference to say "Isiah stuck me with these guys" so you can declare him in breech of contract or something?

How abouty looking at some trade rumors from that time. Here, I'll kick us off:

According to a league source, the Knicks have offered Penny Hardaway's expiring contract to Denver plus another player. The Knicks may be forced to part with rookie David Lee, but they insist on not giving up Frye.

"It seems like everyone wants Frye," said one GM. "I think that's why the Knicks are going to keep him."

Denver is working on several deals, including a trade for Orlando's Steve Francis. But in order to get Francis, the Nuggets want to rid themselves of Martin's contract, which calls for him to make $65 million over the next four years. With Carmelo Anthony looming as a restricted free agent, the Nuggets are reluctant to go over the luxury tax threshold in the future.

The Knicks are willing to provide Denver with salary cap relief but not at the expense of losing Frye, their top rookie. A deal for Martin likely would include point guard Earl Watson and guard Voshon Lenard heading to New York, with Jamal Crawford and Trevor Ariza going to Orlando along with the Nuggets' Nene. The Nuggets would get Francis.

Orlando, like the Knicks, is desperately trying to revamp its team. The Magic have another deal in place with the Pistons that includes Darko Milicic and Carlos Arroyo coming to Orlando in return for Kelvin Cato and a first-round pick. That deal is contingent on Orlando's three-team trade with the Knicks and Denver being completed.

Martin would provide the Knicks with a rugged power forward to play alongside Eddy Curry, whom Larry Brown feels doesn't rebound or defend enough. The addition of Watson would give Brown the flexibility of moving Stephon Marbury to shooting guard, a position Brown feels best suits him. Marbury is currently sidelined with a sore left shoulder. The Knicks entered last night's game against Dallas 0-9 in games Marbury has missed.

Even when Marbury was healthy, Brown bemoaned the team's lack of a backup point. Crawford and rookie Nate Robinson are more suited to play shooting guard, which is why the Knicks traded for Jalen Rose two weeks ago.

A deal for Watson wouldn't be the last move that Thomas, the Knicks' president, makes this month. Because Brown is unhappy with the roster, Thomas is committed to making changes in order to placate his coach.

One of those deals includes the Knicks trying to acquire Seattle power forwards Reggie Evans and/or Danny Fortson.

Thomas also has interest in Cleveland's Drew Gooden, whom the Knicks nearly acquired last year for Kurt Thomas before the Cavs pulled out of the deal at the last minute.

Originally published on February 14, 2006


Orlando GM On Francis Trade: 'Still In The Process'
16th February, 2006 - 3:57 am
NY Post - The Knicks have been speaking to Orlando about Steve Francis for 10 days, offering Penny Hardaway's expiring contract in a would-be megadeal.

But the Magic traded center Kelvin Cato — a piece of a proposed Knick deal — to Detroit last night, a move that could make any deal a longshot bid, team sources said.

"We're no closer to getting Francis than we were 10 days ago," said one Knicks official, bleakly.

If the Orlando-Knicks talks are deadened, it could spring Denver back into action and revive the three-team deal that would send Francis to the Nuggets and point guard Earl Watson to the Knicks. Watson is the backup point guard Brown believes his team needs.


The deals that Brown was interested in didn't materialize and he got stuck with the pieces he cared less about.

Posted by Bonn1997:

I'm still waiting to read statements--even ONE--by Brown himself saying he was interested in any of the players you're referring to. I don't care what some reporter thinks Brown might be interested in.