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5/30/2006  12:49 AM
oohah, I know how sensitive you are, so don't take this wrong, but I'm bored of this. I'm moving on for now.

Until next time...
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5/30/2006  12:52 AM
Posted by BlueSeats:

oohah, I know how sensitive you are, so don't take this wrong, but I'm bored of this. I'm moving on for now.

Until next time...

Yeah I figured you would drop out after my "cocksucker" example. I would have called it quits too if I were so soundly defeated.

Now eat your words.

oohah

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5/30/2006  1:01 AM
Posted by oohah:
Posted by BlueSeats:

oohah, I know how sensitive you are, so don't take this wrong, but I'm bored of this. I'm moving on for now.

Until next time...

Yeah I figured you would drop out after my "cocksucker" example. I would have called it quits too if I were so soundly defeated.

Now eat your words.

oohah

God you're a loser. You just live for this petty stuff , don't you?

You keep wanting to make it that I pounced on you when it's you who accuse me of "making stuff up and pawning it off as fact." (or whatever the exact phrase was) which is almost a ludicrous charge against a me, who backs up his claims as much as anyone here.

All this quibbling over my remembrance of that slur as "liar" is just you in denial of the fact that your slurs against me are misguided.

Just forgive yourself and you'll be able to move on too.
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5/30/2006  1:17 AM
God you're a loser. You just live for this petty stuff , don't you?

See you're already name-calling again.

I live for it? I'm a loser? Who is petty?

Let me ask you this: Who came back days later trying so hard to 'get oohah'?

Answer: Blueseats

Now we know who lives for petty sh.it, the guy who had start something.

Just eat your words and we can move on.

You keep wanting to make it that I pounced on you when it's you who accuse me of "making stuff up and pawning it off as fact." (or whatever the exact phrase was) which is almost a ludicrous charge against a me, who backs up his claims as much as anyone here.

Didn't you just call me sensitive one post ago? Did I hurt your widdle feelings blueseats?

No wonder you began the lashing out in that thread over a week ago, and felt the need to continue a week later, I hurt your widdle feelings!

Here let me massage your beat up ego: Blueseats, you're so credible, your reputation is soooo awesome, you are the god of substantiation!!

Feel better?

All this quibbling over my remembrance of that slur as "liar" is just you in denial of the fact that your slurs against me are misguided.

You could have just said that and things would have gone a lot more civilly. But instead, you degenerated so quickly, why is that? You know they speak ill of the blueseaters, saying they have potty-mouths, why are you making it come true?

***

You know, someone who fancies himself as such an essayist that he is planning on writing a "thesis" about the season should really use language with more precision, not to mention the information he bases his works upon.

Fact checking is paramount. Just because it is in the papers does not mean it is true. Don't you know that yet? I would not state a lot of the stuff you do as known facts unless it can be proven without question.

Just forgive yourself and you'll be able to move on too.

I'll tell you what: After you are done eating your words, I'll forgive myself for wasting valuable keystrokes from my life.

So just let me know when you are done eating.

Thanks,

oohah



[Edited by - oohah on 05-30-2006 01:21 AM]
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5/30/2006  1:29 AM
Here, I fixed it:
Brown again acknowledged it will take time for the players to learn his system, but he seemed to indicate it might take longer than he first assumed. While the team is learning how to play defense, he wants them to temporarily play a more deliberate half-court offense in order to slow the game down and prevent teams from scoring 114 points, as the Sixers did Tuesday.

He started that process yesterday, which he doesn't like to do because he likes to run the ball at the defense as much as possible. But after watching Tuesday's game, he came to the realization that the team isn't learning what he has been teaching.


Then here we are again in mid Novemeber:


Brown lamented the Knicks' lack of organization on offense and pointed out that even a rookie like Channing Frye could see it going helter skelter. Brown said Frye approached him at the airport after Wednesday's loss and said, "Coach, it's amazing. When things get tough, instead of us slowing it down and executing to get a good set, very rarely do we get in good position to run a play."

Brown has become so uncertain about what his players can do, that he said he will pare down the Knicks' playbook to just a handful of sets. He already has taken to calling plays from the bench, something he hates doing, and on fastbreak opportunities he will limit them to two options.

In practice, before games and in timeouts, Brown has been hammering home his most basic tenets in the hope that repetition will lead to execution.

"If you say it a hundred times, you've got to say it a thousand times until they get it," he said. "I want to be specific so there's no indecision at all. That's what I told them again today. We're going to limit the things we do."

BTW, you once went so far as to accuse me of "making stuff up and presenting it as fact" for stating that Brown utilized a small playbook for us. Care to eat your words now?


There.

NOW eat your words.
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5/30/2006  1:53 AM
There.

NOW eat your words.

You've actually made me chuckle blueseats.

Were it not for all the ugliness that has transpired I would eat them for no other reason than to make you feel good.

Too late for that now.

I still say you tried to pass off non-factual content as facts. And sorry, you did not use or imply anything about the number of plays utilized when you did. That is editing.

Question: If Flip Saunders, who is rumored to have a telephone book sized playbook, uses only one play all year, does he have a large or small playbook?

Answer: We certainly don't know, because we have not seen his playbook, nor is it in the lore of the NBA enough for guys like us to know which.

***

Blueseats, just think of me as that professor in college who you hated because he demanded the best out of you.

I haven't seen your best side, but I'm sure you're better than that.

Take it easy,

oohah

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5/30/2006  6:06 AM
Posted by oohah:
Posted by joec32033:
Posted by Bonn1997:

Is anyone actually reading this stuff (besides Oohah and Blueseats)? I need the cliffnotes!


Cliffnotes Version: Alot of sound an fury signifying nothing.

It's absolutely amazing that you two can make the Mo Taylor man-up thread look like Kindergarten stuff....

For the record I agree with Blue....I applaud you for having poet lauret' caliber interest in this. There is alot of twisting and turning in this thread that is now seems to be boiling down to Larry's playbook had to be unquantifiably big because he was able to break it down, which is faulted logic-but hey it sounds good.

Wrong Joe, The main point is blueseats' argument are mostly based on what he feels and few actual facts.

oohah

Bro, facts are something quantifiable. If you are looking for what is technically referred to as facts, well, this is a message board for fans and noone in the Knick organization posts here (to our knowledge). So hardcore facts are not goijng to be found here. Our facts are published reports of any sort.

Blue is posting the best facts he can short of saying he is LB and this is what is happening. You are taking Blue's facts and are teisting them more than Chubby Checker.

So far from what I read ( I read to about halfway down page 3 when you decided to quote every sentence-BTW, 99% of the posters on this board can not respond to posts like that for no other reason it is tedious and time consuming) the only one presenting "facts" is Blue. You are just taking what Blue brings up and just casting it in the different light of your opinion.
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5/30/2006  9:08 AM
Having said that, how many posters trust Marbury to run an uptempo offense?

Is the Knicks stagnant offense a case of the "man" (Larry Brown) just tryin' to hold a brotha back?

Is it time for Summer League yet?
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5/30/2006  9:09 AM
It took more than five weeks before Marbury was fully healed. By then, Brown had already taken a stranglehold on the offense and Marbury was not allowed to freelance to the basket, creating for himself and others like in January.

- Berman, NYPost

Here We Go...
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5/30/2006  12:53 PM
Bro, facts are something quantifiable. If you are looking for what is technically referred to as facts, well, this is a message board for fans and noone in the Knick organization posts here (to our knowledge). So hardcore facts are not goijng to be found here. Our facts are published reports of any sort.

Blue is posting the best facts he can short of saying he is LB and this is what is happening. You are taking Blue's facts and are teisting them more than Chubby Checker.

So far from what I read ( I read to about halfway down page 3 when you decided to quote every sentence-BTW, 99% of the posters on this board can not respond to posts like that for no other reason it is tedious and time consuming) the only one presenting "facts" is Blue. You are just taking what Blue brings up and just casting it in the different light of your opinion.

Joe, I'm not sure what your interest is in jumping into this back and forth between Blueseasts and I, but it goes back to another thread. From your responses, it is pretty obvious you don't recall what was said on that thread, nor are you aware that this recent exchange had absolutely nothing to do with basketball, but with blueseats trying to rub my nose in something...incorrectly.

I have seen from comments on this thread and the other thread that you like blueseats and that is fine, but he is a big boy who does not need a bodyguard and you should let him handle his own business.

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[Edited by - oohah on 05-30-2006 12:54 PM]
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5/30/2006  1:54 PM
Posted by oohah:
Bro, facts are something quantifiable. If you are looking for what is technically referred to as facts, well, this is a message board for fans and noone in the Knick organization posts here (to our knowledge). So hardcore facts are not goijng to be found here. Our facts are published reports of any sort.

Blue is posting the best facts he can short of saying he is LB and this is what is happening. You are taking Blue's facts and are teisting them more than Chubby Checker.

So far from what I read ( I read to about halfway down page 3 when you decided to quote every sentence-BTW, 99% of the posters on this board can not respond to posts like that for no other reason it is tedious and time consuming) the only one presenting "facts" is Blue. You are just taking what Blue brings up and just casting it in the different light of your opinion.

Joe, I'm not sure what your interest is in jumping into this back and forth between Blueseasts and I, but it goes back to another thread. From your responses, it is pretty obvious you don't recall what was said on that thread, nor are you aware that this recent exchange had absolutely nothing to do with basketball, but with blueseats trying to rub my nose in something...incorrectly.

I have seen from comments on this thread and the other thread that you like blueseats and that is fine, but he is a big boy who does not need a bodyguard and you should let him handle his own business.

oohah



[Edited by - oohah on 05-30-2006 12:54 PM]

Bro, what Meds are you on? If you want a little tet' a tet with just you and Blue, go to the off topic forum and title it "oohah and Blue thread-noone else post". I am not jumping into the middle of anything, nor do I "like" Blue. I can count on one hand the number of his posts I responded to. I am responding to posts on this thread just like 5 other guys have who you apparently don't feel like calling out, so do what you do bro.

Staing an opinion is not a "threat", or is it "running protection" so tone down the defensiveness and maybe instead of turning this thread into a pissing contest, actually debate what the topic is instead of hijacking the thread and turning it into something that it isn't by your own admission...

nor are you aware that this recent exchange had absolutely nothing to do with basketball, but with blueseats trying to rub my nose in something...incorrectly.
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5/30/2006  3:16 PM
Bro, what Meds are you on?

Joe, I'm on the type of meds that allow me to read and understand what I am reading. Try them sometime. You want to chime in on an argument, feel free, but don't get so upset when you get responded to okay BRO?

If you want a little tet' a tet with just you and Blue, go to the off topic forum and title it "oohah and Blue thread-noone else post". I am not jumping into the middle of anything, nor do I "like" Blue. I can count on one hand the number of his posts I responded to. I am responding to posts on this thread just like 5 other guys have who you apparently don't feel like calling out, so do what you do bro.

Staing an opinion is not a "threat", or is it "running protection" so tone down the defensiveness and maybe instead of turning this thread into a pissing contest, actually debate what the topic is instead of hijacking the thread and turning it into something that it isn't by your own admission...

Since you have already thrown the first insult maybe you are the one who should check his tone.

I did not hijack anything. Blueseats decided to attack me on this thread regarding a thread from over a week ago, trying to "make me eat my words" and he was absolutely incorrect. That is where the hijacking occured.

I don't recall stating that I was threatened by you or that you were running protection, but since I am on the type of meds that allow me to read and understand what I am reading, I can see that you are trying to get his back while simultaneously disparaging me.

Tell you what Joe, if you have a problem with me or my style, avoid me, or confront me on your own, you don't need to piggyback on someone else's gripe to take a shot. That is sissy behavior.

This thread would have returned to its normal state if you didn't feel the need to "call me out" or whatever the hell you think you did, so don't accuse me of starting a pissing contest when you are standing there with your joint out.

Now let's see if you can let the exchange between blueseats and myself go since it should not concern you in the least bit.

oohah






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5/30/2006  3:31 PM
so, it's decided, joe loves blueseats.
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5/30/2006  3:35 PM
Posted by oohah:
There.

NOW eat your words.

You've actually made me chuckle blueseats.

Were it not for all the ugliness that has transpired I would eat them for no other reason than to make you feel good.

Too late for that now.

Nice try at the soft back-peddle, but I'm not asking for favors.
I still say you tried to pass off non-factual content as facts. And sorry, you did not use or imply anything about the number of plays utilized when you did. That is editing.

Question: If Flip Saunders, who is rumored to have a telephone book sized playbook, uses only one play all year, does he have a large or small playbook?

Answer: We certainly don't know, because we have not seen his playbook, nor is it in the lore of the NBA enough for guys like us to know which.

Dude, what you are about is slander, nothing more, nothing less.

You accuse me of making stuff up and passing them off as facts while presenting nothing to even refute my assertions. Have you proved brown has a LARGE playbook? No!!!

You merely repeat your slanders and and perpetuatt your ill-formed accusations. Truth be told, it is you who've made stuff up and passed it off as fact in your accusations against me.

And you think the more boisterous and attention mongering you become the farther from sight that truth becomes. Doesn't work that way, doompah.

Blueseats, just think of me as that professor in college who you hated because he demanded the best out of you.

I haven't seen your best side, but I'm sure you're better than that.

Take it easy,

oohah

I think you've done a better job at establishing yourself as a world-class attention whore. To compensate for your feelings of inadequacies you perform all kinds of acts of grandiouslity, from your hoilier-than-thou stance throughout, to now positing yourself as some sort of mentor or professor. You convince yourself each of your posts are so special that you sign them individually, (with a quill pen perhas?) as if some day you'll sell them.

Bitter, unfulfilled, possibly unloved. At the slightest provocations you initiate and perpetuate massive extravaganzas of pettiness. ("I called you a 'd.ckhead,' but you paraphrased it as 'c.cksucker.' You're a lying cheat and that proves it!", etc). You've tried to assault me on every ground from intelligence, through deciet, to grammatical deficiencies.

You seem to turn your torrent of hate, that is usually focused inwardly as self-loathing, outward at a straw-man, like myself, who you can set up to represent all who've left you feeling unnoticed or unappreciated before. Through me you validate your pain and have us all bear witness that with your qualities (like intelligence, anal-retention, and a will to never admit mistakes,) you truly are worthy of recognition, love and respect.

As a merciful man I'm willing to play that role for you. You clearly find some form of solace and validation for yourself in these otherwise meaningless exchanges, and that pleases me.

Don't worry, I've never held a grudge against anyone in my life, and I'm not about to start with you. Knock yourself out.


[Edited by - BlueSeats on 05-30-2006 3:42 PM]
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5/30/2006  4:11 PM
Posted by oohah:
Bro, what Meds are you on?

Joe, I'm on the type of meds that allow me to read and understand what I am reading. Try them sometime. You want to chime in on an argument, feel free, but don't get so upset when you get responded to okay BRO?

If you want a little tet' a tet with just you and Blue, go to the off topic forum and title it "oohah and Blue thread-noone else post". I am not jumping into the middle of anything, nor do I "like" Blue. I can count on one hand the number of his posts I responded to. I am responding to posts on this thread just like 5 other guys have who you apparently don't feel like calling out, so do what you do bro.

Staing an opinion is not a "threat", or is it "running protection" so tone down the defensiveness and maybe instead of turning this thread into a pissing contest, actually debate what the topic is instead of hijacking the thread and turning it into something that it isn't by your own admission...

Since you have already thrown the first insult maybe you are the one who should check his tone.

I did not hijack anything. Blueseats decided to attack me on this thread regarding a thread from over a week ago, trying to "make me eat my words" and he was absolutely incorrect. That is where the hijacking occured.

I don't recall stating that I was threatened by you or that you were running protection, but since I am on the type of meds that allow me to read and understand what I am reading, I can see that you are trying to get his back while simultaneously disparaging me.

Tell you what Joe, if you have a problem with me or my style, avoid me, or confront me on your own, you don't need to piggyback on someone else's gripe to take a shot. That is sissy behavior.

This thread would have returned to its normal state if you didn't feel the need to "call me out" or whatever the hell you think you did, so don't accuse me of starting a pissing contest when you are standing there with your joint out.

Now let's see if you can let the exchange between blueseats and myself go since it should not concern you in the least bit.

oohah




Talk about defensive!
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5/30/2006  4:29 PM
What is a "doompah" poo-seats? Is that the best you can come up with? Pathetic.
Nice try at the soft back-peddle, but I'm not asking for favors.

What the f are you talking about? The reason I said I would have eaten my words is because you already ate yours when you changed your sentence into what it should have been. Blueseats, that was an admission.

Dude, what you are about is slander, nothing more, nothing less.

Slander you say! And I am the one who needs to get over myself? I am the one with delusions of grandeur? This is an internet board dude! You keep going on about credibility and reputations. What I said must have cut real deep! You must worry about me a little too much! Lick your wounds and stop crying!

By the way, slander is verbal. The word you are looking for is libel. Okay Hemingway?
You accuse me of making stuff up and passing them off as facts while presenting nothing to even refute my assertions. Have you proved brown has a LARGE playbook? No!!!

Your reading is as poor as your writing. The point is that we don't know if Brown has a big or small playbook, while you are going around writing as if you know, providing a false foundation for the rest of your theories.

You merely repeat your slanders and and perpetuatt your ill-formed accusations. Truth be told, it is you who've made stuff up and passed it off as fact in your accusations against me.

Right, because it is common knowledge that Marbury led a coup d'etat against the coach. I guess you did not make that up. My bad.
And you think the more boisterous and attention mongering you become the farther from sight that truth becomes. Doesn't work that way, doompah.

Damn, you ran out of basketball argument over a week ago, and you have spent all that time since them festering with anger and insults. What a sad little sucker you are.

I think you've done a better job at establishing yourself as a world-class attention whore.

Who called who out? Wouldn't the caller be the one wo is looking for attention? I'll bet you won't answer that question!

The attention whore is the pansy who is worried about people libeling his credibility and reputation.

If you can't even get the timeline straight of who began the insults and rehetoric in this thread and the last, how can you be expected to have a trustworthy recounting of what happened during the basketball season?

Answer: You can't.

To compensate for your feelings of inadequacies you perform all kinds of acts of grandiouslity, from your hoilier-than-thou stance throughout, to now positing yourself as some sort of mentor or professor.

Yes, I am the one compensating, because I am so wound up about someone insulting my credibility and reputation. Oh wait, that is you.

You should look at me as your professor since I obviously look at your posts with more scrutiny than you do. And one thing I am certain of, when you next post one of you boring as turd article-clipping posts, you will check your facts a lot harder and trim much more of the innuendo, so I have done us all a favor.

You convince yourself each of your posts are so special that you sign them individually, (with a quill pen perhas?) as if some day you'll sell them.

I love the way guys interpret the simple signing of a post. It says so much about where their head is at. In your case it is so telling especially since you are all wound up with "slander", "reputation", and "credibility".

Try to stand on your own blueseats, even if it is against the tide. You don't need a fan club. Oh, well maybe you do, but I don't.

Bitter, unfulfilled, possibly unloved. At the slightest provocations you initiate and perpetuate massive extravaganzas of pettiness. ("I called you a 'd.ckhead,' but you paraphrased it as 'c.cksucker.' You're a lying cheat and that proves it!", etc). You've tried to assault me on every ground from intelligence, through deciet, to grammatical deficiencies.

Of course you will ignore that all insults were begun by you, the same way you ignore 50% of the evidence that does not support your preconcieved 'points'.

And I am really not trying to insult your poor grammar and lack of knowledge of the definitions of the words you insist on using. I am trying to help you out, so you say what you really mean. That way you won't have to go back and change things up like you have so many times in our discussions.

By the way, I'm so bitter that I came seeking you out to put you in your place. Oh wait, that was you.

You seem to turn your torrent of hate, that is usually focused inwardly as self-loathing, outward at a straw-man, like myself, who you can set up to represent all who've left you feeling unnoticed or unappreciated before. Through me you validate your pain and have us all bear witness that with your qualities (like intelligence, anal-retention, and a will to never admit mistakes,) you truly are worthy of recognition, love and respect.

Was the straw-man the one who did not have a heart or a brain? Since we are talking about you, let's go with brain. Go back and look at who has thrown the most insults, go back and look at your motivation for seeking me out to prove me wrong, and you will have your answer about who feels bitter, inadequate, and loathes himself. It seems that a little comment about the poor state of your 'evidence' has shaken you so badly that you can't control yourself.

As a merciful man I'm willing to play that role for you. You clearly find some form of solace and validation for yourself in these otherwise meaningless exchanges, and that pleases me.

This sentence is so convoluted, you are beginning to remind me of those guys who dress up like sinbad and rant and rave in times square.

It is obvious that these exchanges are much more important to you than me, since you have taken the time to seek me out (a week later), and you still cannot cap the rage and hurt bubbling inside of you since I proved that you were full of beans.

Don't worry, I've never held a grudge against anyone in my life, and I'm not about to start with you. Knock yourself out.

I think you'll have to amend that sentence since you have obviously been holding a grudge against since last week, so much so that you felt you had to swoop down on me and put me in my place.

Of course that would require that you be able to wiegh and interpret evidence, not just clip articles in the paper and point at them while going: "what he said!"

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[Edited by - oohah on 05-30-2006 4:33 PM]
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5/30/2006  4:32 PM
Talk about defensive!

I notice that there are a couple of guys who try to jump up and take a swipe at me at random intervals when they feel I am too preoccupied to bother with them, but none so much as you nyk4ever.

Why is that?

oohah

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5/30/2006  4:40 PM
I've learned that Ooh aah has two tricks. He calls you a liar or an LB lover. Overtime Blue Seats you will agree with him and move on.
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Posted by Bippity10:

I've learned that Ooh aah has two tricks. He calls you a liar or an LB lover. Overtime Blue Seats you will agree with him and move on.

Liar,

I already got blueseats on his falsifications, though his were not as egregious as yours. And if there is ever a search feature enabled for this board, believe that I will get you too liar. Until that day, continue to clothe yourself in your lies.

Okay liar?

By the way, the proper term is "Brown-noser".

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[Edited by - oohah on 05-30-2006 4:49 PM]
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Who else wants to bring it?

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Why couldn't we play uptempo??

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