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7/12/2005  12:26 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
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Why is everyone all over Channing? Because he was pick #8 and since he is a big man there are some unrealistic expectations riding on his shoulders? He is going to be good, the management believe in him - Zeke believes in him, hell even Spike Lee was happy on draft day.

Would it have been nice to get a potential superstar like Green? Sure...if he panned out to become one. What if he doesnt? This team needed SIZE, thats what was drafted with the #8 pick and we shouldnt be complaining about it - taking someone like Green would have guranteed another lottery bound season.

Let this kid play through SL, be excited that he is showing some improvement and getting experience under his belt. Also be excited about Nate and Lee - come November you can really start judging these picks when the Garden lights turn on and we all get to see how they play against experienced pros.

The jury is out, nobody is a bust yet and nobody is the savior...just wait and see.

People just take a dislike to certain players sometimes. I'm just a fan with no special expertise on evaluating young players, so I'm content to wait and see. However, some of the great "basketball minds" here have already decided that "Channing Frye sucks." They are going to stick with this repetitive little riff. It's like a political campaign. The technique is simple repetition. They are going to continue to harp on this point. They really can't lose because, even if Frye doesn't "suck" but is only mediocre, they can still say "I told you so."

I guess we have to stay entertained somehow during the off season.


I don't think anyone here thinks Channing Frye scks. Did bells go off for me personally when I heard he had 9 fouls in the first half, yes. I just expect him to come out against the Nets who had NO one of any talent in the post last night. I thought Frye was a little sub par in the three previous ones and belived that letting him play through fouls would be smart. It kind of was and kind of wasnt. When you have carte blanche to do what you want without regards to fouling--your play and numbers can look skewed. If you know you cant foul out, you can do anything, be as aggresive as you want. Now I do believe it did have a reasonable effect, maybe got his confidence back, but I think they should put him back to the way the rules work with fouls next time.

As far as long term, the only thing the Knicks can hope for is Channing Fryes success. As a fan with realitic expectations to me its 14-15-7/8-50% 1.5 blocks. I think those are numbers he can acheive. If he doesnt, it does pave way for the scks stuff, mark blount scks for example--and I think Frye is better than that, but if he is mediocre, atleast in my eyes, its a failure. Im not asking for great ness, Im asking for charles smith numbers with more toughness--I think that is reasonable expectations.

Those are pretty good numbers for an 8th pick. If he got them it would be great but I wouldn't definitely consider less then that as a bust.

10.7 8.6 2.4 47%
15.2 7.6 1.3 47%

These two stat lines are the career numbers for Camby and Kenyon Martin. They're pretty close to what you're saying is a minimum for "not to be a bust" and these guys came out a little higher then 8th.
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7/12/2005  12:35 PM
I don't know about the #10 pick specifically... but here are a few All-Star centers in the past decade that were chosen after pick #10:

Magloire
Ilgauskas
Antonio Davis
Brad Miller
Ben Wallace
Jermaine O'Neal
Theo Ratliff
Dale Davis
Rik Smits
Vlade Divac

This might tell you that if you can average a double-double, you too could be an all-star center. (I thought Mohammed or KT would make the AS team this season)

Long gone is the golden age of centers: when Ewing/Robinson/Hakeem/Mourning/O'Neal/Mutombo dominated the NBA.

Posted by OldFan:

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Bynum went 10TH. Obviously there are doubts about him becoming a franchise center. And great bigs hardly ever get undervalued. Can you name a single 7 footer who was ever an allstar never mind a franchise player who got drafted 10th?


The jury is still out on Frye but the choice wasn't between Frye and a
"Franchise Center". The choice was between Frye and an unknown quantity that may turn out to be very good and may turn out to be nothing. Just because someone was over-hyped on this board doesn't make him a franchise anything.



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7/12/2005  12:37 PM
Ben Wallace and Brad Miller went undrafted. I don't know if that counts as going after the 10th pick in the draft...
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7/12/2005  12:38 PM
Posted by crzymdups:
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how about soar over people for dunks like he has also done so far in summerleague. That is the beauty of Gerald Green. No one on this team has that ability to become a superstar.

and there's a reason why I wouldn't stop talking about Bynum before the draft. maybe because I knew what I was talking about. Bynum has performed better than even i had expect as a 17yr so far

[Edited by - gunsnewing on 07/12/2005 11:03:21]

Please, don't act like you know a thing about Bynum. Your progression of posts went like this:

March: there's still a chance for the playoffs!
April: there's still a chance for Bogut!
May/June: Gerald Green is the next Tmac! Granger too!
July: Frye sucks, we shoulda taken the next Tmac, Artest, etc!

You occassionally agreed with Briggs, but you've been all BPA all along. And, you know what, BPA FOR THIS TEAM was no swingman. It was Frye or Bynum. And we got Frye, so I'm happy to see if he can develop. Bottom line: there's NO WAY you can tell me based on summer league if Frye or Bynum is better. And Green hasn't had any great games yet.

In fact, the only consensus superstar at summer league according to the rest of the league? Nate Robinson. He's got a better vertical than your precious Green too.

no actually I wanted Green way before than while mostly everyone else wanted Petro, before the McD's game after reading about his shooting and ability to soar through the air and dunk and potentially be a Mcgrady type superstar. Thats where the idea of drafting the BPA came from.

Bynum didn't enter the picture til less than 2 months before the draft. Once he did Green's superstar potential no longer mattered because the potential to draft a top flight center in a league where there are none overrides anything else. Sure I would've loved to have Bogut who will be great right away but with pick 8 I want the best player no matter how young he is and I'm not going to list the # of great high school bigman so that one person can throw Diop's name in there
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7/12/2005  12:42 PM
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by gunsnewing:

how about soar over people for dunks like he has also done so far in summerleague. That is the beauty of Gerald Green. No one on this team has that ability to become a superstar.

and there's a reason why I wouldn't stop talking about Bynum before the draft. maybe because I knew what I was talking about. Bynum has performed better than even i had expect as a 17yr so far

[Edited by - gunsnewing on 07/12/2005 11:03:21]

Please, don't act like you know a thing about Bynum. Your progression of posts went like this:

March: there's still a chance for the playoffs!
April: there's still a chance for Bogut!
May/June: Gerald Green is the next Tmac! Granger too!
July: Frye sucks, we shoulda taken the next Tmac, Artest, etc!

You occassionally agreed with Briggs, but you've been all BPA all along. And, you know what, BPA FOR THIS TEAM was no swingman. It was Frye or Bynum. And we got Frye, so I'm happy to see if he can develop. Bottom line: there's NO WAY you can tell me based on summer league if Frye or Bynum is better. And Green hasn't had any great games yet.

In fact, the only consensus superstar at summer league according to the rest of the league? Nate Robinson. He's got a better vertical than your precious Green too.

wait a minute! look at my mock draft! it had us drafting Bynum!there was a reaosn when I listed the players I wanted I would always list Bynum's first! Why are you making things up?

doesn't Bynum, Green, Granger & Graham look familiar?

I even spent a month arguing with you as you wanted Frye because Isiah worked him out and I wanted Bynum.

And the the way I wanted Bynum because I felt and still feel he was the best player available when you consider he's a legit Center whereas Frye is a PF
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7/12/2005  12:44 PM
Posted by technomaster:

I don't know about the #10 pick specifically... but here are a few All-Star centers in the past decade that were chosen after pick #10:

Magloire
Ilgauskas
Antonio Davis
Brad Miller
Ben Wallace
Jermaine O'Neal
Theo Ratliff
Dale Davis
Rik Smits
Vlade Divac

This might tell you that if you can average a double-double, you too could be an all-star center. (I thought Mohammed or KT would make the AS team this season)

Long gone is the golden age of centers: when Ewing/Robinson/Hakeem/Mourning/O'Neal/Mutombo dominated the NBA.

Posted by OldFan:

<snip>

Bynum went 10TH. Obviously there are doubts about him becoming a franchise center. And great bigs hardly ever get undervalued. Can you name a single 7 footer who was ever an allstar never mind a franchise player who got drafted 10th?


The jury is still out on Frye but the choice wasn't between Frye and a
"Franchise Center". The choice was between Frye and an unknown quantity that may turn out to be very good and may turn out to be nothing. Just because someone was over-hyped on this board doesn't make him a franchise anything.




that was exactly my point before the draft. Why waiste the #8 pick on Channing Frye when you can find someone as good or better later in the draft if you really wanted to draft a guy because he's 7ft and not Bynum
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7/12/2005  1:07 PM
LMAO

BYNUM TALKING SMACK ABOUT SHAQ????

Shaq was quoted on ESPN a second ago saying "Tell him Shaq said he doesn't respond to juvinile delinquents! Tell him to first get a college degree...I'm working on a PH.D. Tell him to call me Dr. Shaq!"

This highlight of my season will be the moment Phil puts Bynum in the game at Miami. lol This will quickly become the @ss-kicking of the season hands down! Something tells me that Bynum may be sheilded by Phil. He may only get in the game when Shaq's on the bench. Bynum is sure making this interesting ya gotta admit
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7/12/2005  1:10 PM
Posted by gunsnewing:


wait a minute! look at my mock draft! it had us drafting Bynum!there was a reaosn when I listed the players I wanted I would always list Bynum's first! Why are you making things up?

doesn't Bynum, Green, Granger & Graham look familiar?

I even spent a month arguing with you as you wanted Frye because Isiah worked him out and I wanted Bynum.

And the the way I wanted Bynum because I felt and still feel he was the best player available when you consider he's a legit Center whereas Frye is a PF

Dude, you may have gone through a Bynum phase, but you were all about BPA. I remember Granger, Graham and of course Green. But you kept saying take a wing and go big later. Or trade Kurt for a later pick to get Blatche or Bynum or Petro later.

I won't even mention your Splitter fascination.
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7/12/2005  1:19 PM
I feel bad for u, guns. And Im not talking about who was the best pick, the one that had the most potential or anything else. Not even defending Frye or Bynum. You just don't seem able to understand that the draft is over and move on. So you are going to discuss this Bynum-Green-Frye till the season starts? Maybe for the next 5-8 years? It has to be tough not being able to see anything possitively because of what is just done. If you see my mock draft, I had us taking Bynum. I bought all the Briggs hype and liked the idea of drafting Andrew. But we got Frye, LA got Bynum, and the draft is over. I hope for the best for Frye and its no kool-aid that Im excited about him, its just hope of a fan on a young player that has a lot to learn too. Bynum? I hope he can be a good player too and I hoope he can make it because it will be tough for him given how young he is.

Sometimes potential is just overrated. Sometimes we think high-ceiling as a sure thing and low-ceiling as busts. Thats wrong, as it is to think low-ceiling players can't become stars because of that. I don't know how Frye will work out but I hope for the best. You guys don't know how Bynum will work either, so why making your life misserable thinking about it over and over again. What if Bynum becomes the superstar everyone thinks he will be? I will take any championship we can win with Frye being part of a team than just having an All-Star Center that makes us contenders but maybe can't lead us to the promised land. And we know a lot about franchise centers not making us instant champions.

Frye is part of a vision of a winning team. Thats what's best for me, winning it all someday in the future...
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7/12/2005  1:21 PM
Posted by crzymdups:
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wait a minute! look at my mock draft! it had us drafting Bynum!there was a reaosn when I listed the players I wanted I would always list Bynum's first! Why are you making things up?

doesn't Bynum, Green, Granger & Graham look familiar?

I even spent a month arguing with you as you wanted Frye because Isiah worked him out and I wanted Bynum.

And the the way I wanted Bynum because I felt and still feel he was the best player available when you consider he's a legit Center whereas Frye is a PF

Dude, you may have gone through a Bynum phase, but you were all about BPA. I remember Granger, Graham and of course Green. But you kept saying take a wing and go big later. Or trade Kurt for a later pick to get Blatche or Bynum or Petro later.

I won't even mention your Splitter fascination.

until Isiah finally mentioned Bogut right before the draft! I lost hope on drafting Bynum until Isiah finally mentioned him the last year before the draft! I had the feeling Isiah would draft green or granger because they were the best player available because he never worked out or mention Bynum. I was just being realistic. Doesn't mean Bynum wasn't MY first priority! stop worring about what I said for once.
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I feel bad for u, guns. And Im not talking about who was the best pick, the one that had the most potential or anything else. Not even defending Frye or Bynum. You just don't seem able to understand that the draft is over and move on. So you are going to discuss this Bynum-Green-Frye till the season starts? Maybe for the next 5-8 years? It has to be tough not being able to see anything possitively because of what is just done. If you see my mock draft, I had us taking Bynum. I bought all the Briggs hype and liked the idea of drafting Andrew. But we got Frye, LA got Bynum, and the draft is over. I hope for the best for Frye and its no kool-aid that Im excited about him, its just hope of a fan on a young player that has a lot to learn too. Bynum? I hope he can be a good player too and I hoope he can make it because it will be tough for him given how young he is.

Sometimes potential is just overrated. Sometimes we think high-ceiling as a sure thing and low-ceiling as busts. Thats wrong, as it is to think low-ceiling players can't become stars because of that. I don't know how Frye will work out but I hope for the best. You guys don't know how Bynum will work either, so why making your life misserable thinking about it over and over again. What if Bynum becomes the superstar everyone thinks he will be? I will take any championship we can win with Frye being part of a team than just having an All-Star Center that makes us contenders but maybe can't lead us to the promised land. And we know a lot about franchise centers not making us instant champions.

Frye is part of a vision of a winning team. Thats what's best for me, winning it all someday in the future...

thanks I appreciate your sympathy. at least you're not making things up and immediately labeling Bynum as Diop
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7/12/2005  1:31 PM
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I feel bad for u, guns. And Im not talking about who was the best pick, the one that had the most potential or anything else. Not even defending Frye or Bynum. You just don't seem able to understand that the draft is over and move on. So you are going to discuss this Bynum-Green-Frye till the season starts? Maybe for the next 5-8 years? It has to be tough not being able to see anything possitively because of what is just done. If you see my mock draft, I had us taking Bynum. I bought all the Briggs hype and liked the idea of drafting Andrew. But we got Frye, LA got Bynum, and the draft is over. I hope for the best for Frye and its no kool-aid that Im excited about him, its just hope of a fan on a young player that has a lot to learn too. Bynum? I hope he can be a good player too and I hoope he can make it because it will be tough for him given how young he is.

Sometimes potential is just overrated. Sometimes we think high-ceiling as a sure thing and low-ceiling as busts. Thats wrong, as it is to think low-ceiling players can't become stars because of that. I don't know how Frye will work out but I hope for the best. You guys don't know how Bynum will work either, so why making your life misserable thinking about it over and over again. What if Bynum becomes the superstar everyone thinks he will be? I will take any championship we can win with Frye being part of a team than just having an All-Star Center that makes us contenders but maybe can't lead us to the promised land. And we know a lot about franchise centers not making us instant champions.

Frye is part of a vision of a winning team. Thats what's best for me, winning it all someday in the future...

thanks I appreciate your sympathy. at least you're not making things up and immediately labeling Bynum as Diop

HUH???? I think you're joking. The only person who came here and consistantly AUTOMATICALLY labeled Bynum was YOU. The Diop comparisons came after that as the other possibilty to Bynum. The only shoe-in talk came from you. Knicksfan is talking from a realistic standpoint. All everyone else is trying to show you is that the player can go either way. This is where Knicksfan is coming from as well. Any player can go either way.

But you caanot lie, those Shaq against Bynum games this season will be straight comedy lol
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I feel bad for u, guns. And Im not talking about who was the best pick, the one that had the most potential or anything else. Not even defending Frye or Bynum. You just don't seem able to understand that the draft is over and move on. So you are going to discuss this Bynum-Green-Frye till the season starts? Maybe for the next 5-8 years? It has to be tough not being able to see anything possitively because of what is just done. If you see my mock draft, I had us taking Bynum. I bought all the Briggs hype and liked the idea of drafting Andrew. But we got Frye, LA got Bynum, and the draft is over. I hope for the best for Frye and its no kool-aid that Im excited about him, its just hope of a fan on a young player that has a lot to learn too. Bynum? I hope he can be a good player too and I hoope he can make it because it will be tough for him given how young he is.

Sometimes potential is just overrated. Sometimes we think high-ceiling as a sure thing and low-ceiling as busts. Thats wrong, as it is to think low-ceiling players can't become stars because of that. I don't know how Frye will work out but I hope for the best. You guys don't know how Bynum will work either, so why making your life misserable thinking about it over and over again. What if Bynum becomes the superstar everyone thinks he will be? I will take any championship we can win with Frye being part of a team than just having an All-Star Center that makes us contenders but maybe can't lead us to the promised land. And we know a lot about franchise centers not making us instant champions.

Frye is part of a vision of a winning team. Thats what's best for me, winning it all someday in the future...

thanks I appreciate your sympathy. at least you're not making things up and immediately labeling Bynum as Diop

HUH???? I think you're joking. The only person who came here and consistantly AUTOMATICALLY labeled Bynum was YOU. The Diop comparisons came after that as the other possibilty to Bynum. The only shoe-in talk came from you. Knicksfan is talking from a realistic standpoint. All everyone else is trying to show you is that the player can go either way. This is where Knicksfan is coming from as well. Any player can go either way.

But you caanot lie, those Shaq against Bynum games this season will be straight comedy lol


I was referring to Crzymups lying about me not wanting Bynum as my 1st priority when me and him constantly argued back and forth about bynum and frye before the draft
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7/12/2005  2:06 PM
I don't remember that. I remember you predicting Bogut until the ping pong day and then saying the team should have tanked, AFTER preaching a playoff run until mid to late March. Then when you got over that, you went through Splitter phases and all that, and hey maybe Bynum. The last thing I remember is you saynig BPA on draft day and Graham was Artest 2, Green was Tmac 2, Granger was Pippen 2 (granger is out with a knee injury and can't play SL BTW) and all the rest. You never said Bynum was Shaq 2, so I thought you didn't want him anymore. My bad.

The point is, I agree with Knicksfan - whoever you wanted to draft, give this guy a chance. There's no reason in the world to hate on Nate or DLee at this point, nor Frye. He's had better games than Bynum - who just put up a measley two rebounds in 29 minutes against Dallas. The point is, you haven't seen ANY of these guys play yet, except maybe the two Knicks summer league games. you admitted you don't watch these guys play college ball and a lot of us do and we like Frye and are willing to give him time. Go back and look at the last TWO summer leagues - Bosh played like CRAP. It's not a structured game, there's no spacing and it's built for guards to dominate.

Franky, your constant berating of Frye from the two SL games MSG has televised and a few box scores are getting old. Especially when you've had a history of changing your tune and you'll probably be his biggest fan after his first 20 and 10 game. So why not just show a little patience?
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7/12/2005  2:09 PM
Posted by crzymdups:

I don't remember that. I remember you predicting Bogut until the ping pong day and then saying the team should have tanked, AFTER preaching a playoff run until mid to late March. Then when you got over that, you went through Splitter phases and all that, and hey maybe Bynum. The last thing I remember is you saynig BPA on draft day and Graham was Artest 2, Green was Tmac 2, Granger was Pippen 2 (granger is out with a knee injury and can't play SL BTW) and all the rest. You never said Bynum was Shaq 2, so I thought you didn't want him anymore. My bad.

The point is, I agree with Knicksfan - whoever you wanted to draft, give this guy a chance. There's no reason in the world to hate on Nate or DLee at this point, nor Frye. He's had better games than Bynum - who just put up a measley two rebounds in 29 minutes against Dallas. The point is, you haven't seen ANY of these guys play yet, except maybe the two Knicks summer league games. you admitted you don't watch these guys play college ball and a lot of us do and we like Frye and are willing to give him time. Go back and look at the last TWO summer leagues - Bosh played like CRAP. It's not a structured game, there's no spacing and it's built for guards to dominate.

Franky, your constant berating of Frye from the two SL games MSG has televised and a few box scores are getting old. Especially when you've had a history of changing your tune and you'll probably be his biggest fan after his first 20 and 10 game. So why not just show a little patience?

someone please help me clear this up because he's obviously confused. thanks.

by the way Ping Pong Day was in the middle of the conference finals. my interest in splitter came in December before Bogut, Green and way before Bynum entered the picture...but nice try

and I've said in countless other thread how much I love Nate and Lee. That just proves my point that you are making things up



[Edited by - gunsnewing on 07/12/2005 14:12:25]
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7/12/2005  2:12 PM
So you didn't know about Green or Bynum until Briggs told you? - SHOCKA!

Quit changing the subject and start paying attention to the point.
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7/12/2005  2:14 PM
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So you didn't know about Green or Bynum until Briggs told you? - SHOCKA!

Quit changing the subject and start paying attention to the point.

actually I was the first one to mention drafting Green and that was way before the McD's game. Of course I was getting killed for wanting a player who is compared to Mcgrady and under 7ft. Most wanted Petro & Warrick around that time. Then all of a sudden after the McD's game people wanted Green and were extremely disappoint on lottery day when not only did we miss out on Bogut but Green as well.



[Edited by - gunsnewing on 07/12/2005 14:16:37]
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7/12/2005  2:27 PM
Missing the point. It's all fine and dandy to have an opinion about who to draft. It's fascinating to follow. But the fact is: NBA GMs do a lot more research than we do and they see these guys work out up close and they interview them. Isiah has quite a track record and I'm willing to give his guys a shot. Getting upset about this sort of thing is ridiculous and a waste of time and energy. In fact, I'm done.
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Posted by crzymdups:

Missing the point. It's all fine and dandy to have an opinion about who to draft. It's fascinating to follow. But the fact is: NBA GMs do a lot more research than we do and they see these guys work out up close and they interview them. Isiah has quite a track record and I'm willing to give his guys a shot. Getting upset about this sort of thing is ridiculous and a waste of time and energy. In fact, I'm done.

I'm giving Frye a shot. you're the one that brought up what my priority list was before the draft. I'm done too thanks
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7/12/2005  2:34 PM
Guns has had an infuation with every player on the draft board at one point haha. As the draft near neared he was clear in his wanting Bynum. For what reasons I dont know, but he did want Bynum, I think what he's trying to say was that he wanted Bynum but if the Knicks were not going to take him that he wanted the best player available which then would have been a Green, Granger, Graham.. trust me I was with him during the draft... I never knew a man could destroy so many things when the Knicks drafted Frye haha jk.

I think myself and Briggs are the ones that sold him on not taking Frye but that was BEFORE I knew that the Isiah was going run and gun, once the Q trade was finalized and we drafted Nate I knew the run and gun was in full effect and I was extremely pleased with Channing becuase that style suits him so well. But Guns was sold on Bynum, I think its still a Briggs brainwashing though

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Sorry if Im starting a new thread on this, but it was important Nets-Knicks
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