GustavBahler wrote:

ToddTT wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

fishmike wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

fishmike wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

blkexec wrote:

fishmike wrote:"Thibs doesnt make adjustments"

Another masterclass in coaching last night

For once you said something I agree with. But he adjusted last night and was brilliant. 9 man rotation. Who said old dogs can’t learn new tricks.

Sat Mikal was the right move. Moving him to the bench permanently, is what I want, but clearly the wrong move. Starting Mitch is what I want but clearly the wrong move. Thibs deserves his flowers and I don’t mind giving him his flowers.

Pray for health and strength for OG and JB. Two key players we need to win moving forward. And can’t forget cam Payne. Delon who? Cam Payne shut all that noise down and glad he did. This team needs clutch performers and that’s been cam all season. Props to cam.

Same rotation Thibs has been using since Mitch got back. I’d say the win was more about Cam than Thibs. He did a good job though.

yeah I think we know

We know it wasn’t a “masterclass”. Talk about a low bar.

oh you got me!

I said Thibs did a good job. A coaching “masterclass” is what you call winning a 7 game series vs Boston. The kind of coaching we see from Spoelstra. We held serve, Thibs did a good job, on to the next one.

The Cavs are so ****ed today! Spo in da house!!!

This series might be too tall an order without Butler.

fishmike wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

ToddTT wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

fishmike wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

fishmike wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

blkexec wrote:

fishmike wrote:"Thibs doesnt make adjustments"

Another masterclass in coaching last night

For once you said something I agree with. But he adjusted last night and was brilliant. 9 man rotation. Who said old dogs can’t learn new tricks.

Sat Mikal was the right move. Moving him to the bench permanently, is what I want, but clearly the wrong move. Starting Mitch is what I want but clearly the wrong move. Thibs deserves his flowers and I don’t mind giving him his flowers.

Pray for health and strength for OG and JB. Two key players we need to win moving forward. And can’t forget cam Payne. Delon who? Cam Payne shut all that noise down and glad he did. This team needs clutch performers and that’s been cam all season. Props to cam.

Same rotation Thibs has been using since Mitch got back. I’d say the win was more about Cam than Thibs. He did a good job though.

yeah I think we know

We know it wasn’t a “masterclass”. Talk about a low bar.

oh you got me!

I said Thibs did a good job. A coaching “masterclass” is what you call winning a 7 game series vs Boston. The kind of coaching we see from Spoelstra. We held serve, Thibs did a good job, on to the next one.

The Cavs are so ****ed today! Spo in da house!!!

This series might be too tall an order without Butler.

where's Butler? Did he quit on the coach and demand a trade?

Butler almost single-handedly led them to the Finals a few years back. He wants a ring before he’s too old. Didn’t like his tactics, but I can’t blame him for feeling that way.

GustavBahler wrote:

fishmike wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

ToddTT wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

fishmike wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

fishmike wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

blkexec wrote:

fishmike wrote:"Thibs doesnt make adjustments"

Another masterclass in coaching last night

For once you said something I agree with. But he adjusted last night and was brilliant. 9 man rotation. Who said old dogs can’t learn new tricks.

Sat Mikal was the right move. Moving him to the bench permanently, is what I want, but clearly the wrong move. Starting Mitch is what I want but clearly the wrong move. Thibs deserves his flowers and I don’t mind giving him his flowers.

Pray for health and strength for OG and JB. Two key players we need to win moving forward. And can’t forget cam Payne. Delon who? Cam Payne shut all that noise down and glad he did. This team needs clutch performers and that’s been cam all season. Props to cam.

Same rotation Thibs has been using since Mitch got back. I’d say the win was more about Cam than Thibs. He did a good job though.

yeah I think we know

We know it wasn’t a “masterclass”. Talk about a low bar.

oh you got me!

I said Thibs did a good job. A coaching “masterclass” is what you call winning a 7 game series vs Boston. The kind of coaching we see from Spoelstra. We held serve, Thibs did a good job, on to the next one.

The Cavs are so ****ed today! Spo in da house!!!

This series might be too tall an order without Butler.

where's Butler? Did he quit on the coach and demand a trade?

Butler almost single-handedly led them to the Finals a few years back. He wants a ring before he’s too old. Didn’t like his tactics, but I can’t blame him for feeling that way.

Don't give him too much credit. He wanted to get paid and Pat the rat wasn't going to do it. Yeah I'm sure he wants to win one, but that wasn't his number one priority.

Nalod wrote:

blkexec wrote:I like how Thibs stuck with his regular season 9 man rotation. I was thinking he goes back to a 7-8 man playoff rotation. So I like that adjustment along with pulling Mikal and Deuce out. Subbing in Mitch when he did. I even like how he put in shammet first and early. That was a surprise wrinkle. We talk about the growth in certain players but Thibs has definitely grown as a head coach (for me). I always saw him as a defensive coordinator for a head coach. And I still think he needs more offensive minded coaches on his staff. But props to Thibs for having his hand print on this game. Wasn’t a typical JB save us game. Even though KAT was the one who stepped up. Seems like every game might be a new hero.

How do you quantify Thibs needing more offensive assistance from his coaches. With the 5th most prolific offense in the league this year are you saying they underperformed on that part of the game?

as for Mitch, did I hear Doris say he played 14 min in the fist half. If so, he played just 4 in the second half. Shamet played 10 min but never entered the game again in the second half?

Was Thibs reacting t0 something Pistons were doing?
OG played 44 minutes!

That 4th quarter was a pleasure to behold! I hope that took some of the swagger out of the pistons step.

Your questions on Thibs is anyone’s guess. Regarding Mitch or something Detroit did. Only Thibs can answer the why. I can speculate and say based on some intern somewhere, they provided a chart for Mitch optimal performance curves without injuries and maybe Thibs to sticking to that but expect to play him more later in the playoffs.

Or

Thibs has the “if it ain’t broke don’t fix it” coaching style. Maybe the 5 he had on the floor played so well he left them in and that left Mitch on the bench until he was needed. Since Mitch ain’t starting, Thibs not giving him starter mins unless he has to.

I do believe that 4 quarter run will cause the pistons to think they not on our level and have a play a perfect game. Similar to what we say when going against the top nba teams.

BigDaddyG wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

fishmike wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

ToddTT wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

fishmike wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

fishmike wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

blkexec wrote:

fishmike wrote:"Thibs doesnt make adjustments"

Another masterclass in coaching last night

For once you said something I agree with. But he adjusted last night and was brilliant. 9 man rotation. Who said old dogs can’t learn new tricks.

Sat Mikal was the right move. Moving him to the bench permanently, is what I want, but clearly the wrong move. Starting Mitch is what I want but clearly the wrong move. Thibs deserves his flowers and I don’t mind giving him his flowers.

Pray for health and strength for OG and JB. Two key players we need to win moving forward. And can’t forget cam Payne. Delon who? Cam Payne shut all that noise down and glad he did. This team needs clutch performers and that’s been cam all season. Props to cam.

Same rotation Thibs has been using since Mitch got back. I’d say the win was more about Cam than Thibs. He did a good job though.

yeah I think we know

We know it wasn’t a “masterclass”. Talk about a low bar.

oh you got me!

I said Thibs did a good job. A coaching “masterclass” is what you call winning a 7 game series vs Boston. The kind of coaching we see from Spoelstra. We held serve, Thibs did a good job, on to the next one.

The Cavs are so ****ed today! Spo in da house!!!

This series might be too tall an order without Butler.

where's Butler? Did he quit on the coach and demand a trade?

Butler almost single-handedly led them to the Finals a few years back. He wants a ring before he’s too old. Didn’t like his tactics, but I can’t blame him for feeling that way.

Don't give him too much credit. He wanted to get paid and Pat the rat wasn't going to do it. Yeah I'm sure he wants to win one, but that wasn't his number one priority.

Everybody wants to get paid. Doesn’t diminish how Butler willed his team to the Finals.

fishmike wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

fishmike wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

ToddTT wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

fishmike wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

fishmike wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

blkexec wrote:

fishmike wrote:"Thibs doesnt make adjustments"

Another masterclass in coaching last night

For once you said something I agree with. But he adjusted last night and was brilliant. 9 man rotation. Who said old dogs can’t learn new tricks.

Sat Mikal was the right move. Moving him to the bench permanently, is what I want, but clearly the wrong move. Starting Mitch is what I want but clearly the wrong move. Thibs deserves his flowers and I don’t mind giving him his flowers.

Pray for health and strength for OG and JB. Two key players we need to win moving forward. And can’t forget cam Payne. Delon who? Cam Payne shut all that noise down and glad he did. This team needs clutch performers and that’s been cam all season. Props to cam.

Same rotation Thibs has been using since Mitch got back. I’d say the win was more about Cam than Thibs. He did a good job though.

yeah I think we know

We know it wasn’t a “masterclass”. Talk about a low bar.

oh you got me!

I said Thibs did a good job. A coaching “masterclass” is what you call winning a 7 game series vs Boston. The kind of coaching we see from Spoelstra. We held serve, Thibs did a good job, on to the next one.

The Cavs are so ****ed today! Spo in da house!!!

This series might be too tall an order without Butler.

where's Butler? Did he quit on the coach and demand a trade?

Butler almost single-handedly led them to the Finals a few years back. He wants a ring before he’s too old. Didn’t like his tactics, but I can’t blame him for feeling that way.

Don't give him too much credit. He wanted to get paid and Pat the rat wasn't going to do it. Yeah I'm sure he wants to win one, but that wasn't his number one priority.

Everybody wants to get paid. Doesn’t diminish how Butler willed his team to the Finals.

I thought it was Spo's masterclass coaching

Cavs might be a bit too much for anyone other than Boston and OKC. We will see. But I wouldn't sleep on Spo's coaching. The fact that the 10 seed is even in a 7 game series after giving up JimmyBuckets is a miracle by itself.

Kelel Ware was pretty ineffective against Jarett Allen. I would probably go small ball on these guys and let Wiggins play PF against Mobley with Bam running the 5. Dare Evan Mobley to play big. Use Haywood Highsmith to make up the rebounding. Hard for the Heat to stay in front of Spida with their guards. Cleveland is probably too much for them.

blkexec wrote:What’s Thibs performance grade in game 2?

Not good.

Didn't like the stagnant offense, not prioritizing getting KAT involved against Harris, not enough Mitch to help on the glass, gave up too easily on Payne (didn't play in the second half) and I also thought Thibs should've gotten a tech arguing one of those many non-calls.

That being said, it's not on Thibs for players getting outhustled, outrebounded, KAT being disinterested and running to the corner, Payne's 3 quick fouls, Bridges choking on 3 wide open shots late in the game and OG playing poorly at both ends.

Wins and losses are never ever on one player or the HC but Thibs was not good last night. Nobody really was.

Key to me was in first half. Knicks seemed to not take advantage of turnovers.
There as some nice play opening up the middle. JB pass to Bridges sweet reverse allyOop was nice. they were loose. The could not grab any momentum as Detroit countered.

Have to agree Thibs basically going with a 7 man rotation last night felt desperate given the minutes he played JB and OG. Im not going to harp on bridges as he played well except for a few late 3's that did not go in. OG was looked tired playing 42 minutes and was not bloody awful, just not his excellent self. Box score doe snot show he had few late shot clock sequences that did not go well.

Payne played badly in 4 minutes. Why not put him back in second half? Good question.
deuce was a bit of a bright spot off the bench and perhaps Thibs thought he could ignite something over Cam.
Seemed Detroit did well to reduce our pace and we looked bad forcing it causing turnovers. Not a good night for Josh.
JB looked like he gets mauled. Is he initiating a lot of it? Its frustrating to see but is it not always not what it appears?

With the pace not in synch: AKA "Moving and Grooving" Shamet I guess was left on the bench. He could have shot us back into things sooner or shot us out of the game entirely. Thibs played that conservative.
Second guessing one would have thought Precious could have seen a few minutes and been effective physically. To be fair I don't see him on the court with Mitch.

Not Thibs finest game but perhaps thru it all perhaps we believe or own expectations to a fault that on paper should be doing better. Noting new here.

Fire Thibs? Just remember you do that you might be breaking up "the family". Since we have no precedence with him as a championship coach there lacks a template to complete. I not convinced even if we bow out to Detroit I give up on this team even with Thibs. Media will fuel our frustrations and no doubt there will be plenty of suggestions by the fans and talking heads. Jalen and Thibs are tight. Jalen is the defecto leader. He shoulders not blame but responsibility here also. Is he trying to do too much? Is he not engaging others enough? His ambition blinding him to some aspects of the game?

Still 5 more games to go.