holfresh wrote:U can retire uplifting and transformational speeches the next 4 years..

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this is just too funny

meloanyk wrote:

holfresh wrote:U can retire uplifting and transformational speeches the next 4 years..

Unless we elect Joel Osteen or Tony Robbins. Obama is a great orator though last night his message was a bit long winded and repetitive but I guess that is to be expected in any final performance.

Being in his hometown and having his old chief of staff Rahm Emanuel in the front row was a vivid reminder that "yes, we didn't" could be the slogan on some issues. Not really sure if President Obama truly believes that the nation is more united after his eight years but his ability to eloquently discuss issues of the soul will be missed.

Trump's bluster and substance will be in stark contrast. He won't deliver on the grandeur but at least he inherits an economy with a foundation unlike the fiasco handed off by Bush. Very well may have upticks in economic growth from low levels if tax and fiscal plans are enacted. How teary the pc crowd remains will depend on how his raw social platform is tempered and refined by others within.

"He went to Jared" might become the slogan

You should do some research on all the things Obama actually did that go unnoticed by most people! He actually accomplished a lot but the expectations were so high people don't fully appreciate how much he did. It pisses me off to read posts or articles that don't recognize just how tough his job was coming in and how much of resistance and sabotage he faced from Republicans. NEVER has a party done such a despicable thing at a time the country was in such peril. THEY SHOULD BE ASHAMED!!!

Just imagine what Obama could've accomplished if he didn't have the recession, wars and Republican sabotage to deal with??? The Republicans wasted precious years and resources just to try and regain power by making things worse for Americans so they could blame Obama!!! DISGRACEFUL!!!

meloanyk wrote:

nixluva wrote:

meloanyk wrote:

holfresh wrote:U can retire uplifting and transformational speeches the next 4 years..

Unless we elect Joel Osteen or Tony Robbins. Obama is a great orator though last night his message was a bit long winded and repetitive but I guess that is to be expected in any final performance.

Being in his hometown and having his old chief of staff Rahm Emanuel in the front row was a vivid reminder that "yes, we didn't" could be the slogan on some issues. Not really sure if President Obama truly believes that the nation is more united after his eight years but his ability to eloquently discuss issues of the soul will be missed.

Trump's bluster and substance will be in stark contrast. He won't deliver on the grandeur but at least he inherits an economy with a foundation unlike the fiasco handed off by Bush. Very well may have upticks in economic growth from low levels if tax and fiscal plans are enacted. How teary the pc crowd remains will depend on how his raw social platform is tempered and refined by others within.

"He went to Jared" might become the slogan

You should do some research on all the things Obama actually did that go unnoticed by most people! He actually accomplished a lot but the expectations were so high people don't fully appreciate how much he did. It pisses me off to read posts or articles that don't recognize just how tough his job was coming in and how much of resistance and sabotage he faced from Republicans. NEVER has a party done such a despicable thing at a time the country was in such peril. THEY SHOULD BE ASHAMED!!!

Just imagine what Obama could've accomplished if he didn't have the recession, wars and Republican sabotage to deal with??? The Republicans wasted precious years and resources just to try and regain power by making things worse for Americans so they could blame Obama!!! DISGRACEFUL!!!

Please. Some may understate what President Obama inherited and but most know where we were and we we are today. He has gotten proper credit for overseeing the stabilization of the economy including some moves that were already underway. You may want to recall that the moron Bush actually started TARP with Geither and Paulson before President Obama took over and the Fed had already started injecting massive liquidity into the system. Congress also passed a stimulus bill of nearly $1 bill at the very start of the President Obamas presidency.

President. O best decision was to bailed out the auto industry as letting it go under like the azzhol Romey said would have caused the entire supply chain to crash and resulted in a collapse. He also let Geithner and the Fed continue to bail out the banking system by injecting massive liquidity thru quantitative easing that were later adopted by the ECB and BOJ.

Everyone knows who started the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and also know what has been to be done and not done beyond that.

Of course I wasn't talking about only the financial crisis. Obama has done a LOT more during his Presidency. I think you should dig deeper than just the very beginning when all hell was breaking loose. Also consider the obstruction of the Republicans during a time this country needed action. This was a disgraceful showing by a group that wraps themselves in the flag all the time.

so now we need to focus on what the republicans are trying to do. i'm afraid trump supporters are too far gone in terms of believing what's in the media so it will ultimately come down to how their own lives are effected. and even then, they may not believe it until he serves 2 terms. this country ain't that smart.

meloanyk wrote:

nixluva wrote:

meloanyk wrote:Watching Trump is like sitting at a local bar and listening to a successful but nutty fock talk after a few drinks. Having said that, Im not going to rule out any result

The country Trump is inheriting is primed to take off so IMO it should be easy to take it from here and be successful. If not it's gonna be him F'ing things up. If not for the Republicans applying the brakes as Obama was pushing us uphill things would already be booming. This country's struggle to take off is artificial as simple actions that would make things better were crowded out by gridlock and wasteful stunts by the Republicans, like the Debt Ceiling etc.

Primed to take off? 156k jobs created at this late stage rests right above the job growth range, 140-150k , where most economists believe that the economy stagnates. Reasonable people don't blame President Obama for the continuance any sluggishness because they know the background.

Despite all the talk about the 1% over the last eight years, nothing has really changed much to better the middle class and blame for that falls on all including President Obama . Despite his eloquence, intellect and popularity , Dems lost seats at every level of government despite favorable trends in demographics and that is indicting. Was interesting to watch President Obama admit that trade could be fairer and infer rural perspectives also have to be understood .

Reality is that both parties let Trump ascend.

As the saying goes, "its the economy stupid". If anything, the impact of massive liquidity as a stimulant has run its course here and abroad and other measures have to be undertaken.

No matter , all should now focus and hope for success rather than discount any future growth. If economy takes off it will be because Looney Tunes changes some inputs and it clicks. More than the unemployment numbers, Ill be watching for increases in labor market participation and real advances in wage growth

holfresh wrote:

meloanyk wrote:

nixluva wrote:

meloanyk wrote:Watching Trump is like sitting at a local bar and listening to a successful but nutty fock talk after a few drinks. Having said that, Im not going to rule out any result

The country Trump is inheriting is primed to take off so IMO it should be easy to take it from here and be successful. If not it's gonna be him F'ing things up. If not for the Republicans applying the brakes as Obama was pushing us uphill things would already be booming. This country's struggle to take off is artificial as simple actions that would make things better were crowded out by gridlock and wasteful stunts by the Republicans, like the Debt Ceiling etc.

Primed to take off? 156k jobs created at this late stage rests right above the job growth range, 140-150k , where most economists believe that the economy stagnates. Reasonable people don't blame President Obama for the continuance any sluggishness because they know the background.

Despite all the talk about the 1% over the last eight years, nothing has really changed much to better the middle class and blame for that falls on all including President Obama . Despite his eloquence, intellect and popularity , Dems lost seats at every level of government despite favorable trends in demographics and that is indicting. Was interesting to watch President Obama admit that trade could be fairer and infer rural perspectives also have to be understood .

Reality is that both parties let Trump ascend.

As the saying goes, "its the economy stupid". If anything, the impact of massive liquidity as a stimulant has run its course here and abroad and other measures have to be undertaken.

No matter , all should now focus and hope for success rather than discount any future growth. If economy takes off it will be because Looney Tunes changes some inputs and it clicks. More than the unemployment numbers, Ill be watching for increases in labor market participation and real advances in wage growth

That is patently false...No single reading of the employment numbers can tell you whether or not the economy stagnates and +156k certainly isn't anywhere close to indicating that...The revisions from the prior month was higher...Again, please point me one economist that said that number was terrible as you previously stated...

Other things could have been done to help the economy and the republicans rejected the Grand Bargain...They didn't want to give Obama the win...They wanted him to be a one term president..You see it now in healthcare..They don't care who they hurt, they just want to repeal ACA at all cost...

Here's one. http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2016/04/07/the-new-magic-number-for-monthly-job-growth-145000/

The fact is that employment numbers have been up and down. Sharp bounce back early from the great depths make for good comparisons but then you like to see continued and steady growth across a broad range of indicators especially for the middle class. Ive always given President Obama credit for lifting but the much criticized Fed also had a heavy hand Saying primed to "takeoff" comes off as setting the stage to discount any accomplishment, if looney somehow returns us to consistently good growth with a different approach then Ill be applauding him just like I did with President Obama.

meloanyk wrote:

holfresh wrote:

meloanyk wrote:

nixluva wrote:

meloanyk wrote:Watching Trump is like sitting at a local bar and listening to a successful but nutty fock talk after a few drinks. Having said that, Im not going to rule out any result

The country Trump is inheriting is primed to take off so IMO it should be easy to take it from here and be successful. If not it's gonna be him F'ing things up. If not for the Republicans applying the brakes as Obama was pushing us uphill things would already be booming. This country's struggle to take off is artificial as simple actions that would make things better were crowded out by gridlock and wasteful stunts by the Republicans, like the Debt Ceiling etc.

Primed to take off? 156k jobs created at this late stage rests right above the job growth range, 140-150k , where most economists believe that the economy stagnates. Reasonable people don't blame President Obama for the continuance any sluggishness because they know the background.

Despite all the talk about the 1% over the last eight years, nothing has really changed much to better the middle class and blame for that falls on all including President Obama . Despite his eloquence, intellect and popularity , Dems lost seats at every level of government despite favorable trends in demographics and that is indicting. Was interesting to watch President Obama admit that trade could be fairer and infer rural perspectives also have to be understood .

Reality is that both parties let Trump ascend.

As the saying goes, "its the economy stupid". If anything, the impact of massive liquidity as a stimulant has run its course here and abroad and other measures have to be undertaken.

No matter , all should now focus and hope for success rather than discount any future growth. If economy takes off it will be because Looney Tunes changes some inputs and it clicks. More than the unemployment numbers, Ill be watching for increases in labor market participation and real advances in wage growth

That is patently false...No single reading of the employment numbers can tell you whether or not the economy stagnates and +156k certainly isn't anywhere close to indicating that...The revisions from the prior month was higher...Again, please point me one economist that said that number was terrible as you previously stated...

Other things could have been done to help the economy and the republicans rejected the Grand Bargain...They didn't want to give Obama the win...They wanted him to be a one term president..You see it now in healthcare..They don't care who they hurt, they just want to repeal ACA at all cost...

Here's one. http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2016/04/07/the-new-magic-number-for-monthly-job-growth-145000/

The fact is that employment numbers have been up and down. Sharp bounce back early from the great depths make for good comparisons but then you like to see continued and steady growth across a broad range of indicators especially for the middle class. Ive always given President Obama credit for lifting but the much criticized Fed also had a heavy hand Saying primed to "takeoff" comes off as setting the stage to discount any accomplishment, if looney somehow returns us to consistently good growth with a different approach then Ill be applauding him just like I did with President Obama.

I don't have full access to WSJ..But that blog heading isn't confirming what you saying unless I'm missing something...It's a number they came up with which holds the unemployment rate steady..Economic growth can't be assessed on a monthly basis and certainly not by monthly job numbers...

The action by the fed is in lieu of Congress actually doing nothing to take any fiscal action...The refuse to negotiate with Obama in things such as the Grand Bargain..So should the fed just allow the economy to falter because the Republican Congress won't act??