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5/6/2009  12:28 AM
TMS, have you seen the Ramses Barden clips? Dude is money. I think we did well especially considering our position.
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5/6/2009  7:53 PM
yeah, i watched all the clips i could find on him on draft day... never even heard of him before V mentioned him on his list... dude is exactly the type of WR i wanted the G-men to target... big, tall, physical, big hands, catches balls away from his body, not afraid of contact over the middle, good enough speed to make big plays... i'm really excited over his potential on this team... also very optimistic on the LBer Sinton we got, another big, physical player who hits hard & can rush the passer... can never have enough of those guys.
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5/7/2009  12:42 PM
Giants first-round pick Hakeem Nicks grabs comparison to Michael Irvin

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There was already enough pressure on Hakeem Nicks, from the moment he was drafted by a team desperate for a No. 1 receiver to fill Plaxico Burress' shoes. The Giants even turned up the heat when they compared their first-rounder to Pro Bowler Anquan Boldin.

But Butch Davis, Nicks' coach at North Carolina, went even further, comparing him to Hall of Famer Michael Irvin. And if that's a lot for a 21-year-old receiver to deal with as a rookie . . . well, the real Irvin says, that's just tough.

"Pressure is good at this stage," Irvin told the Daily News last week. "You want a guy to feel like, 'I have to live up to him,' as opposed to 'I'm just me. Let me be me.' You want to live up to something, to standards that have been set . . . something where he says, 'I want to be this,' or 'I want to do that.' You want a guy to feel pressure to be great all the time."

By all accounts, Nicks does, which is why Davis - who was on the Dallas Cowboys staff from 1989-94 when Irvin was in his prime - wasn't afraid to make that comparison. He even said the 6-1, 210-pound Nicks has "as good a set of hands catching the ball as anybody I've ever been around." And he's been around receivers such as Irvin, Andre Johnson, Santana Moss and Reggie Wayne.

But the best part about Nicks isn't his hands, his production or his ability to make the tough catch. It's another Irvin-like trait - the ability to star in the big game.

"The thing that I liked about him is the bigger the game, it seemed like the better that he plays," Davis said. "The game he had in the bowl game, he was so geeked about wanting to play well. He knew it was a national audience. And how could you have played any better than he did in that game?"

"The bigger the game, the bigger the stage, the bigger the performance," added North Carolina receivers coach Charlie Williams. "He thrives in the spotlight."

Nicks had eight catches, 217 yards and three touchdowns in the Meineke Car Care Bowl in December, including a spectacular, one-handed, behind-the-back catch that became a YouTube sensation. It was probably the most notable performance for a player who caught 142 passes for 2,180 yards and 17 touchdowns over the last two seasons. But to his coaches, it wasn't necessarily his best.

"What I told everybody before the draft," Williams said, "was that some of his best catches were in practice."

That's where Davis first saw the similarities between Nicks and Irvin, when Nicks was just a freshman three years ago. And the comparisons have only gotten more obvious since.

"You don't want to put this burden on a kid coming into his rookie year, but a lot of his physical attributes are very similar to Michael Irvin," Davis said. "Hakeem is big, he's physical, he catches the ball over the middle, and he's got that ability to play physical when people are draped all over him as they're going to be in the National Football League."
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5/7/2009  5:20 PM
if he even comes close to being as good a football player as the last guy we drafted in the 1st round out of NC, he'll be just fine.
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5/7/2009  11:33 PM
There's a rumor out there (and I don't think its true), that the Browns and Giants are talking about Manningham, Ware and a no.3 next year for Edwards.

I'm not really down for that and I don't think its gonna happen.
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5/8/2009  1:40 AM
Posted by VDesai:

There's a rumor out there (and I don't think its true), that the Browns and Giants are talking about Manningham, Ware and a no.3 next year for Edwards.

I'm not really down for that and I don't think its gonna happen.

I pray not. It would be Reese first real bad move for me. I think Manningham was a steal from last year's draft. He got hurt but the guy is a serious playmaker and can make the amazing catches. What's wrong with going with a young WR core. Who are the people that keep making the Giants a win now team? Reese rework this roster to make sure it isn't full of veterans just hanging on to get a ring and done mentality. No to trading Manningham. The only reason why I would be ok with Ware is because you pick up Brown but I like Ware a lot too.

Man what's up with the move by these guys trying to fleece the Giants. They got all these NFL analysts on board too. Yeah trade your 1, 3 and establish player for a guy coming off a bad season who wants out. Shockey done more in his career than Brown and the Giants just got a 2 and 5. Giants didn't get a player out of the deal. Hell Clayton from ESPN was killing the Giants for not taking the Saints' original offer of a 2 and 6 two years ago.
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5/9/2009  2:14 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by VDesai:

There's a rumor out there (and I don't think its true), that the Browns and Giants are talking about Manningham, Ware and a no.3 next year for Edwards.

I'm not really down for that and I don't think its gonna happen.

I pray not. It would be Reese first real bad move for me. I think Manningham was a steal from last year's draft. He got hurt but the guy is a serious playmaker and can make the amazing catches. What's wrong with going with a young WR core. Who are the people that keep making the Giants a win now team? Reese rework this roster to make sure it isn't full of veterans just hanging on to get a ring and done mentality. No to trading Manningham. The only reason why I would be ok with Ware is because you pick up Brown but I like Ware a lot too.

Man what's up with the move by these guys trying to fleece the Giants. They got all these NFL analysts on board too. Yeah trade your 1, 3 and establish player for a guy coming off a bad season who wants out. Shockey done more in his career than Brown and the Giants just got a 2 and 5. Giants didn't get a player out of the deal. Hell Clayton from ESPN was killing the Giants for not taking the Saints' original offer of a 2 and 6 two years ago.

I know it's giving up a lot for Edwards, but I'd make that deal in a heartbeat. The Giants are stocked at RB... I'd prefer trading Ware to land Edwards as opposed to repeating the Ryan Grant trade (or a NYG RB for a fifth). Manningham will probably develop into a fine player, but he'll be lucky if he comes close to Amani Toomer's production, who had similar Mich numbers and style--and who also happens to be dumb as bricks. The way I see it, it's basically like trading two 3rds and a 5th for a legitimate deep play option, which this team really, really, REALLY needs and all that they have to give up is depth...
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5/9/2009  4:00 PM
With Nicks, Beckum and Barden on board the need for Edwards is greatly lessened. In fact unless you were sure Edwards could bounce back, be a superb no.1 and lead the Giants towards the superbowl then I don't think you can make the move anymore. From a financial standpoint, Edwards' contract will be a bear. Not to mention Ware and Manningham are both quality prospects who I both believe have the potential to develop into starters.

As much as I love Brandon Jacobs, he misses ballgames and gets banged up, and the Giants use 2 primary backs. We need 3-4 quality RB's on the roster. Manningham is talented enough to potentially contend for a starting role this year if healthy.

On a side note, Hakeem Nicks is standing out early in rookie mini camp.

Hakeem Nicks Makes a Good First Impression in Giants Camp
Posted May 08, 2009 4:27PM By Dan Graziano (RSS feed)

EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. -- He looked good on the field, and he did fine in the press conference, which were the two parts of Hakeem Nicks' first day at New York Giants rookie minicamp that we got to see. To the scriblling, twittering, inquiring group of media that gathered at Giants Stadium this morning to check out the new guys, Nicks looked just like a first-round pick is supposed to look. He was quick, skillful, athletic and surprisingly polished.

Giants coach Tom Coughlin liked what he saw on the field, too. But that wasn't the only place Nicks was impressive on his first day as a pro. Coughlin also liked what he saw of the rookie out of North Carolina in the morning meeting.
"He worked well. He was humble," Coughlin said after the morning session of practice concluded. "He did well coming out of his meeting. The information we had on him is that he learns all the positions and he can line everybody up in the receiving corps. So that's a good plus, and we saw that. He handles himself well, carries himself well."

The Giants needed a receiver in the draft, and there was a good group from which to pick. Pre-draft speculation connected the Giants to Kenny Britt, a New Jersey kid and Rutgers product who made sense because of his height and the local connection. But the Giants saw something in Nicks beyond the spectacular on-field performances. They saw somebody who could be a leader among their receivers. And that made them like him even more.

"In my opinion, you have to know what everybody is doing on the field," Nicks said. "That's the game of football. I've prided myself on being a leader by example, on and off the field. On the field especially. I want to make sure everybody's doing what they're supposed to be doing."

Nicks is a confident fellow, which should serve him well as he attempts the difficult transition from college wideout to pro wideout. The other thing that should help is that he's coming from the pro-style offense Butch Davis coaches at North Carolina.

"Slight advantage," Nicks said of that idea. "The offense I came from was similar to what we run here, so I don't think it's going to be a hard transition for me from one playbook to another. It's just going to take a lot of time and effort in the playbook."

Nicks got a lot of attention on the first day, and that's not likely to change. The dominant personnel story of the Giants' 2008 season (and their off-season so far) has been the absence of Plaxico Burress and what the team can or hopes to do to replace him. Burress caused plenty of trouble during his time with the Giants, but he also made a major contribution to the offense, and the Giants struggled without him in the final weeks of last season.

So much of the first-day focus was on Nicks and fellow draft pick Ramses Barden, the 6-foot-6 wideout from Cal Poly. The two know each other from the scouting combine and from an ESPN-sponsored "College All-Star Challenge" in which they both participated, and they're happy to have each other to bounce things off of as they go through their first professional preseason.

"It'll be good to have somebody who recognizes me on the sideline," Barden said.

But everybody's going to recognize Nicks, because everybody knows who the first-round pick was and because Nicks is the kind of guy who stands out.

"I thougth Hakeem was one of the best receivers in the draft," said second-round pick Clint Sintim, who saw Nicks up-close as an opponent while a linebacker at Virginia. "You always knew he was going to be a big-play guy who was going to be tough to stop. He's a baller, man. Hands down. That's all I can say. He's a baller."

Anybody who watched this year's Meineke Car Care Bowl could've told you that. But what we learned on the first day of Giants rookie minicamp was that the field isn't the only place where Nicks is that impressive.
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5/10/2009  8:26 PM
http://www.nypost.com/seven/05092009/sports/giants/jacobs__no_to_braylon_168361.htm

JACOBS: 'NO' TO BRAYLON

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No to trading for Braylon Edwards.
So says Giants running back Brandon Jacobs.

"I don't want him," Jacobs said yesterday on ESPN 1050 Radio. "There are great players in the league that I don't want. I just think the chemistry between the teammates that I have now is great. We don't need to add a new veteran to the whole group."

Jacobs also said no to trading for Anquan Boldin.

"I'm good with where we are," Jacobs said. "I'm glad that we didn't go forward and get [Edwards] or Boldin. Those guys are great guys [but] I'm not interested in that idea."
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5/16/2009  10:13 PM
2 teams are reportedly courting Plax as a free agent according to his agent Rosenhaus... logical one would be the Jets... personally i'm thinking the other might be Dallas.

[Edited by - TMS on 05-16-2009 7:13 PM]
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5/17/2009  3:16 PM
Posted by TMS:

2 teams are reportedly courting Plax as a free agent according to his agent Rosenhaus... logical one would be the Jets... personally i'm thinking the other might be Dallas.

[Edited by - TMS on 05-16-2009 7:13 PM]

I think it's the Jets + Detroit, Dallas, Baltimore
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5/17/2009  3:26 PM
I think he'll end up with the team called Jail. Miami is one of the teams interested btw.
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I think he'll end up with the team called Jail. Miami is one of the teams interested btw.

Him and Mike Vick are a pretty good foundation to build around...
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Posted by nyk4ever:
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I think he'll end up with the team called Jail. Miami is one of the teams interested btw.

Him and Mike Vick are a pretty good foundation to build around...

I hear Ray Carruth is pretty good. Ray Lewis has shown interest in playing too.
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I think he'll end up with the team called Jail. Miami is one of the teams interested btw.

Him and Mike Vick are a pretty good foundation to build around...

I hear Ray Carruth is pretty good. Ray Lewis has shown interest in playing too.

We got a pretty good team going so far. Add in Tank Johnson and Pacman Jones and this is shaping up nicely...
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5/25/2009  11:38 AM
Does anyone else think "dehydration" really means "excessive cocaine abuse"?
Shockey taken from pool party
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New Orleans Saints tight end Jeremy Shockey was taken to the hospital after becoming dehydrated near a swimming pool while attending a party with several NFL players in Las Vegas, spokesman Greg Bensel said on Sunday.

After being treated, Shockey was discharged from the hospital, according to Bensel, and appears to be "in good shape now."

The party, called "Rehab," apparently was at the Beach Club Pool at the Hard Rock Cafe Casino, another Saints official said.

Celebrity gossip site TMZ.com first reported that paramedics wheeled Shockey out on a stretcher from the pool party after he was found unconscious Sunday afternoon.

Shockey made the Pro Bowl four times with the New York Giants but was traded to the Saints before last season. He caught 50 passes for career lows in yardage (483) and touchdowns (0) and missed five games with a sports hernia.

Chris Mortensen is a senior NFL analyst for ESPN. Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.
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5/28/2009  9:29 PM
apparently Plax turned down a pretty reasonable plea offer cuz he didn't wanna get any jail time for bringing a loaded gun into a nightclub establishment & accidentally shooting himself in the leg, even tho he would have been eligible to get out of jail by now had he accepted the deal & still been a member of this Giants team... this guy can't get out of the way of his own stupidity & pride obviously... seems like the Giants had no choice but to let this guy go... good riddance i guess... sucks that such a talented player has to be so stupid, selfish & arrogant that he can't face the consequences of his own actions.

http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2009/05/report_new_york_giants_burress_2.html
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5/29/2009  6:16 PM
Boldin fired his agent Rosenhaus & might be leaning to signing w/Eli's agent Condon... stay tuned for the rumors to fly again.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/05292009/sports/giants/new_agent_likely_for_boldin_171559.htm
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Does anyone else think that the Giants may have jumped the gun (sorry for the pun) on releasing Plax before his legal issues were clear? Now it appears he maybe eligible for the season if the commissioner doesn't suspend him which seems uncertain because he hasn't even had his case adjourn yet.
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6/15/2009  9:36 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:

Does anyone else think that the Giants may have jumped the gun (sorry for the pun) on releasing Plax before his legal issues were clear? Now it appears he maybe eligible for the season if the commissioner doesn't suspend him which seems uncertain because he hasn't even had his case adjourn yet.

Yes and no... I guess I'm torn. This team was so drastically worse offensively when he wasn't playing that it would have been nice to keep him. But by all accounts he wanted out and this legal drama was really detracting from the team-first thing the organization does so well. For the two voluntary camps there was only one absence, Tynes, who was at a celebrity golf tournament and gave months of notice.

The offense will not be as good as it was and will probably struggle a bit in the red zone relative to Burress being on the team. But in terms of team unity, this team has never been stronger, Smith and Manningham should make strides, and Nicks should catch everything thrown his way... Matt Mosley gave him an honorable mention in his column on who the top 10 players in the division and if you look at my draft day reaction in this thread I was really excited by his selection.

This team has definitely evolved though... it may not matter if Burress is here or not as the Giants are so much better defensively this year than last and that blows my mind. Usi returns and Canty, Boley, and Bernard get added to the mix... there is always going to a fresh monster on the defensive line and a Pro Bowl type talent moves in as weakside linebacker, which was such a weakness last season
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