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This is huge. If Quick can continually breakdown the defense his peak potential will be raised another notch.

And maybe with it you will stop posting about IQ being played out of position?

Or it is such that this is just what development of a player looks like?

Naw, I still don't see him as a PG. It will make him a better player if he can get to the hoop more often though. We are talking about 2 different things. He is developing as a player but he is still not a PG.

Edit: If during quicks development as a player he learned how to do these things I will consider him a PG.

Control an offense and direct the team to take advantage of mismatches and defensive mistakes.
Less missed passes on lobs and cuts to the basket. With Mitch and Obi this one is huge.
Being able to pass players open. He tried this before and turned the ball over but I loved that he tried it.
The thought to feed Bigs when they have not touched the ball in a long time. Keeps them engaged.
The thought to feed the hot hand.

These qualities and leadership is what look for in a starting PG. If Randle calls for a ISO but we have a better matchup somewhere else have the power to waive him off and go to that matchup.

martin wrote:

Clean wrote:

martin wrote:

Clean wrote:

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This is huge. If Quick can continually breakdown the defense his peak potential will be raised another notch.

And maybe with it you will stop posting about IQ being played out of position?

Or it is such that this is just what development of a player looks like?

Naw, I still don't see him as a PG. It will make him a better player if he can get to the hoop more often though. We are talking about 2 different things. He is developing as a player but he is still not a PG.

Edit: If during quicks development as a player he learned how to do these things I will consider him a PG.

Control an offense and direct the team to take advantage of mismatches and defensive mistakes.
Less missed passes on lobs and cuts to the basket. With Mitch and Obi this one is huge.
Being able to pass players open. He tried this before and turned the ball over but I loved that he tried it.
The thought to feed Bigs when they have not touched the ball in a long time. Keeps them engaged.
The thought to feed the hot hand.

These qualities and leadership is what look for in a starting PG. If Randle calls for a ISO but we have a better matchup somewhere else have the power to waive him off and go to that matchup.

That's fair and I think the same. By those standards do you consider McBride a PG?

I have no clue. He has not gotten enough time to make an informed decision either way.

I would like to add a PG does not have to have all those qualities. They should have a good number of them to be a starting PG though. I understand that if a PG had all those qualities and was able to score they would be Chris Paul.

TPercy wrote:random thought, would u trade for beal for 1 season? a lot of wiz fans telling me they hope they dont extend him and just move on and i think they re right. I wouldnt extend him but to have on for a season would be something

With IQ, RJ, Grimes, McBride, I don't know why you would trade for him. And I don't know how you would anyway with his salary.

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TPercy wrote:random thought, would u trade for beal for 1 season? a lot of wiz fans telling me they hope they dont extend him and just move on and i think they re right. I wouldnt extend him but to have on for a season would be something

With IQ, RJ, Grimes, McBride, I don't know why you would trade for him. And I don't know how you would anyway with his salary.

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TPercy wrote:

martin wrote:

TPercy wrote:random thought, would u trade for beal for 1 season? a lot of wiz fans telling me they hope they dont extend him and just move on and i think they re right. I wouldnt extend him but to have on for a season would be something

With IQ, RJ, Grimes, McBride, I don't know why you would trade for him. And I don't know how you would anyway with his salary.

We have plenty of ppl we could combo with and the main reason is simply just talent upgrade. we get a better creator and scorer at the guard position who would be the best facilitator here.

Talent upgrade at a cost of first round picks and young kids for a guy who doesn't defend much, injury prone, and will cost you $40-45M per who will be 29 in June and can't shoot from distance.

Again, what's the talent that will offset the cost of trading for him?

Its a 1 year rental so the cost would be significantly lower. Beal is a career 37% 3pt shooter. The way I see it is what teams would be willingly to offer the most? Washington probably don't want to pay him a max extension and neither would I or many other teams. I see it as a stop gap option.

martin wrote:

TPercy wrote:

martin wrote:

TPercy wrote:

martin wrote:

TPercy wrote:random thought, would u trade for beal for 1 season? a lot of wiz fans telling me they hope they dont extend him and just move on and i think they re right. I wouldnt extend him but to have on for a season would be something

With IQ, RJ, Grimes, McBride, I don't know why you would trade for him. And I don't know how you would anyway with his salary.

We have plenty of ppl we could combo with and the main reason is simply just talent upgrade. we get a better creator and scorer at the guard position who would be the best facilitator here.

Talent upgrade at a cost of first round picks and young kids for a guy who doesn't defend much, injury prone, and will cost you $40-45M per who will be 29 in June and can't shoot from distance.

Again, what's the talent that will offset the cost of trading for him?

Its a 1 year rental so the cost would be significantly lower. Beal is a career 37% 3pt shooter. The way I see it is what teams would be willingly to offer the most? Washington probably don't want to pay him a max extension and neither would I or many other teams. I see it as a stop gap option.

How can you put that out and think it's a legit take on what Beal is shooting from downtown? Last 4 years: 35%, 35%, 35%, 30%.

Do you think WAS is going to just GIVE you a discount cause he has a player option? Is that how trades work with that level of player?

Fair. I chalk his 3pt shoot down to shot selection rather than actual accuracy. No one in the league is going to leave him open. And again, for me it comes down to what are other teams going to offer? Is breaking down walls to trade for Beal right now? His value is definitely lower coming off an off season and most teams are going to be skeptical about giving him a 50mm per year extension.

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