CrushAlot wrote:

TLover wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

Nalod wrote:

SwishAndDish13 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

Finestrg wrote:So Jabari Parker's supposedly seeking a max contract offer eventually from the Bucks (5 yrs/max money). Is that something that scares the Bucks into trading him and opens the door up for us?

How would the Knicks acquire him?

Say Bucks take anderson and a pick from Rockets, We get Jabari, Melo to Rockets.
Not saying thats fair or in favor.

Jabari wants max money? SO do I. Dude knees are not exactly max money.
He can ask. Every team should be scared, but Im not a knee specialist.
I love the idea of Jabari all healthy and we take it on, but I remember eddy and Amare also.

This is a Knicks move if I've ever seen one. Alternatively, we could just wait and Amare him. Can't see many besides the Knicks signing up to max a guy who probably will never play.

Thats a fair statement before the "Great Cultural Revolution".
I'd have to say since the McKinsey deal the knicks are more foreward thinking. Melo contract not crazy as the guy can still play. Not saying he is worth the money, nor did Phils vision come to fruition. We know what happend.
The only deal that comes close to being awful is Noah's and we talking 17mil year, not 30!!! Its not that outrageous that Noah's return to some form of good healthy.
So while its not pretty today, its not a franchise killer.
Melo can be traded for Anderson who is not aweful. We just don't want that.

That alone speaks to a change. As for Parker, he has the talent, but will have to prove his durability. Im not going to kill the knicks based what parker wants and what internet chatter says.

My sources say Melo to Houston is going to happen. (Guys that played at Cuse). NY is just trying to squeeze out another piece but will most likely take Anderson, a first and a filler rather than letting Melo come to training camp. They may see Anderson as another 3pt. threat that would allow KP to operate freely. From what has been coming out of the front office, this seems possible.

It sounds reasonable. Thanks for posting this.

If that's the deal then I'd rather just keep Melo.

I agree but I think management wants him out. He is liked by his teammates and at least some of the players on the team were not fond of the coaching staff at the end of the season. I don't think Melo is toxic but I think management wants him gone possibly enough to be the team to compromise on this trial.

Management will not take bad contact to just move him.
They will rather have him play and even start.
Melo is the master of his own destiny.
It is his time to choose.
Stay in NY and prove everyone wrong by sticking with youth and changing his role or open the out-NTC list to Portland or more teams and get some fun winning.
I actually think both ways it will be good for the Knicks. And I believe Mils and Perry think in same lines.

CrushAlot wrote:

TLover wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

Nalod wrote:

SwishAndDish13 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

Finestrg wrote:So Jabari Parker's supposedly seeking a max contract offer eventually from the Bucks (5 yrs/max money). Is that something that scares the Bucks into trading him and opens the door up for us?

How would the Knicks acquire him?

Say Bucks take anderson and a pick from Rockets, We get Jabari, Melo to Rockets.
Not saying thats fair or in favor.

Jabari wants max money? SO do I. Dude knees are not exactly max money.
He can ask. Every team should be scared, but Im not a knee specialist.
I love the idea of Jabari all healthy and we take it on, but I remember eddy and Amare also.

This is a Knicks move if I've ever seen one. Alternatively, we could just wait and Amare him. Can't see many besides the Knicks signing up to max a guy who probably will never play.

Thats a fair statement before the "Great Cultural Revolution".
I'd have to say since the McKinsey deal the knicks are more foreward thinking. Melo contract not crazy as the guy can still play. Not saying he is worth the money, nor did Phils vision come to fruition. We know what happend.
The only deal that comes close to being awful is Noah's and we talking 17mil year, not 30!!! Its not that outrageous that Noah's return to some form of good healthy.
So while its not pretty today, its not a franchise killer.
Melo can be traded for Anderson who is not aweful. We just don't want that.

That alone speaks to a change. As for Parker, he has the talent, but will have to prove his durability. Im not going to kill the knicks based what parker wants and what internet chatter says.

My sources say Melo to Houston is going to happen. (Guys that played at Cuse). NY is just trying to squeeze out another piece but will most likely take Anderson, a first and a filler rather than letting Melo come to training camp. They may see Anderson as another 3pt. threat that would allow KP to operate freely. From what has been coming out of the front office, this seems possible.

It sounds reasonable. Thanks for posting this.

If that's the deal then I'd rather just keep Melo.

I agree but I think management wants him out. He is liked by his teammates and at least some of the players on the team were not fond of the coaching staff at the end of the season. I don't think Melo is toxic but I think management wants him gone possibly enough to be the team to compromise on this trial.

StarksEwing1 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

TLover wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

Nalod wrote:

SwishAndDish13 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

Finestrg wrote:So Jabari Parker's supposedly seeking a max contract offer eventually from the Bucks (5 yrs/max money). Is that something that scares the Bucks into trading him and opens the door up for us?

How would the Knicks acquire him?

Say Bucks take anderson and a pick from Rockets, We get Jabari, Melo to Rockets.
Not saying thats fair or in favor.

Jabari wants max money? SO do I. Dude knees are not exactly max money.
He can ask. Every team should be scared, but Im not a knee specialist.
I love the idea of Jabari all healthy and we take it on, but I remember eddy and Amare also.

This is a Knicks move if I've ever seen one. Alternatively, we could just wait and Amare him. Can't see many besides the Knicks signing up to max a guy who probably will never play.

Thats a fair statement before the "Great Cultural Revolution".
I'd have to say since the McKinsey deal the knicks are more foreward thinking. Melo contract not crazy as the guy can still play. Not saying he is worth the money, nor did Phils vision come to fruition. We know what happend.
The only deal that comes close to being awful is Noah's and we talking 17mil year, not 30!!! Its not that outrageous that Noah's return to some form of good healthy.
So while its not pretty today, its not a franchise killer.
Melo can be traded for Anderson who is not aweful. We just don't want that.

That alone speaks to a change. As for Parker, he has the talent, but will have to prove his durability. Im not going to kill the knicks based what parker wants and what internet chatter says.

My sources say Melo to Houston is going to happen. (Guys that played at Cuse). NY is just trying to squeeze out another piece but will most likely take Anderson, a first and a filler rather than letting Melo come to training camp. They may see Anderson as another 3pt. threat that would allow KP to operate freely. From what has been coming out of the front office, this seems possible.

It sounds reasonable. Thanks for posting this.

If that's the deal then I'd rather just keep Melo.

I agree but I think management wants him out. He is liked by his teammates and at least some of the players on the team were not fond of the coaching staff at the end of the season. I don't think Melo is toxic but I think management wants him gone possibly enough to be the team to compromise on this trial.

Well we seem to be going through a young movement which is the right move IMO so it would makes sense for management to want to move on from Melo. However I'm glad we didn't make a bad trade just to move him to Houston. Like ive said before I'm fine if Melo starts the season with the Knicks as long as he realizes that he wont be the featured player anymore. as long as he accepts that things should be pretty smooth for the time being at least

Disagree. Keeping Melo will show me the front office is still clueless. It would make no sense to, yet again, put a guy who plays better at the 4, is a go to scorer and needs the ball in a role where he has to alter his game. That has been my gripe with Melo. Can't sign a guy(Max deal) that plays a certain way and then try to change him. Just sign someone else that already fits the role you need. Players can change for maybe a year or two (DadMelo), but only on a team that is good, but then they ultimately go back to their natural game. Knicks need to move on to their young guys. It will test to see who is truly good without the "Melo buffer" Eventhoug, I feel we will not be that good and we could have avoided this Philly status, it is the right step to take at this time.

It's also clear that Melo umderstands he is not part of their plans. Think his desire for it to work here has kept him from realizing NY was never the right organazation. Reason why he doesn't want to go to yet another clown show.

CrushAlot wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

TLover wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

Nalod wrote:

SwishAndDish13 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

Finestrg wrote:So Jabari Parker's supposedly seeking a max contract offer eventually from the Bucks (5 yrs/max money). Is that something that scares the Bucks into trading him and opens the door up for us?

How would the Knicks acquire him?

Say Bucks take anderson and a pick from Rockets, We get Jabari, Melo to Rockets.
Not saying thats fair or in favor.

Jabari wants max money? SO do I. Dude knees are not exactly max money.
He can ask. Every team should be scared, but Im not a knee specialist.
I love the idea of Jabari all healthy and we take it on, but I remember eddy and Amare also.

This is a Knicks move if I've ever seen one. Alternatively, we could just wait and Amare him. Can't see many besides the Knicks signing up to max a guy who probably will never play.

Thats a fair statement before the "Great Cultural Revolution".
I'd have to say since the McKinsey deal the knicks are more foreward thinking. Melo contract not crazy as the guy can still play. Not saying he is worth the money, nor did Phils vision come to fruition. We know what happend.
The only deal that comes close to being awful is Noah's and we talking 17mil year, not 30!!! Its not that outrageous that Noah's return to some form of good healthy.
So while its not pretty today, its not a franchise killer.
Melo can be traded for Anderson who is not aweful. We just don't want that.

That alone speaks to a change. As for Parker, he has the talent, but will have to prove his durability. Im not going to kill the knicks based what parker wants and what internet chatter says.

My sources say Melo to Houston is going to happen. (Guys that played at Cuse). NY is just trying to squeeze out another piece but will most likely take Anderson, a first and a filler rather than letting Melo come to training camp. They may see Anderson as another 3pt. threat that would allow KP to operate freely. From what has been coming out of the front office, this seems possible.

It sounds reasonable. Thanks for posting this.

If that's the deal then I'd rather just keep Melo.

I agree but I think management wants him out. He is liked by his teammates and at least some of the players on the team were not fond of the coaching staff at the end of the season. I don't think Melo is toxic but I think management wants him gone possibly enough to be the team to compromise on this trial.

Well we seem to be going through a young movement which is the right move IMO so it would makes sense for management to want to move on from Melo. However I'm glad we didn't make a bad trade just to move him to Houston. Like ive said before I'm fine if Melo starts the season with the Knicks as long as he realizes that he wont be the featured player anymore. as long as he accepts that things should be pretty smooth for the time being at least

They need to trade him or he will still be the featured player. He is too talented, is the longest tenured Knick, was the team captain last year and is well liked by his teammates.

Featured or not he is still going to put up shots and give very little in the other end. That is the main reason to trade him. Sorry to see him stil a Knick.

Nalod wrote:I keep waiting for news. I would imagine there is a sort of "GM and league Cap folk vacation" that must happen once or twice a year. Trades can't be done without the league office and few teams trade before camp opens.

MeloDrama has been minimal this off season considering the ramifications. Rockets can soar into contention with Melo.
The Ryan Anderson question is a big one to contemplate! The kid did real well for the Rockets this season and in my mind his contract is the big problem for Knicks and others but for sure he brings a valid talent on the court. A stretch 4 at 20mil x 3 a year with questionable athleticism is ok if your a team in need of a finishing piece.
Rockets have new ownership coming in also. Not sure what the deal is there.

I agree. Ryan Anderson is not a complete dud..he just doesn't fit the new blueprint. I really hope Melo extends his list to Portland and the Cavs.

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GustavBahler wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

Nalod wrote:I keep waiting for news. I would imagine there is a sort of "GM and league Cap folk vacation" that must happen once or twice a year. Trades can't be done without the league office and few teams trade before camp opens.

MeloDrama has been minimal this off season considering the ramifications. Rockets can soar into contention with Melo.
The Ryan Anderson question is a big one to contemplate! The kid did real well for the Rockets this season and in my mind his contract is the big problem for Knicks and others but for sure he brings a valid talent on the court. A stretch 4 at 20mil x 3 a year with questionable athleticism is ok if your a team in need of a finishing piece.
Rockets have new ownership coming in also. Not sure what the deal is there.

I agree. Ryan Anderson is not a complete dud..he just doesn't fit the new blueprint. I really hope Melo extends his list to Portland and the Cavs.

Anderson comes to NY in this deal, its same old Knicks. Taking the player with the contract, no one would touch. One more season with Melo wouldn't usher in the apocalypse. Lets hope it wasn't the Knicks who blinked first, if a Houston deal happens. Maybe they found another team for Anderson.

It's bull sht when you say it will be announce 5 days from now.

silly ass Isola wrote a article(basically updating anyone who has been sleeping under a rock) said melo's circle is holding out hope a deal will happen by Monday, so a bunch of other sports news outlets have starting saying (per Isola of the daily news) melo maybe traded by Monday.

if you read Iosla's article, it's strictly an opinion piece

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/

Paris907 wrote:Frank Azola has little value on Twitter or otherwise. Anderson’s contract is 3 years and rich. I don’t want it.
For my money Melo’s departure is about 3 years overdue. Can you imagine defense with Beasley, Melo, Kuz - even KP blocks shots but commits fouls. Leave Baker on the floor and he will shoot 29% from 3. Even Lee’s days as a defensive minded baller are passed.

Melo won’t take a role as he only knows one. ISO Ball ⚽️ impacts this team and with young players It will Be lottery time. Youth - particularly Frank N is a question mark. We don’t know if we’ve a backcourt started for 10 years or a rotation player defensive specialist. Let Melo find a way to open up to Portland and we can talk. Otherwise it’s a sure sign that Dolan runs the team top to bottom!!

CrushAlot wrote:

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This is 100% what was happening when that guy Trey Rodriguez (or whatever his name is) was stating that the Knicks had a deal. He kept saying that the deal was done but they are announcing it tomorrow.

CrushAlot wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

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This is 100% what was happening when that guy Trey Rodriguez (or whatever his name is) was stating that the Knicks had a deal. He kept saying that the deal was done but they are announcing it tomorrow.

This guy is just a fan. Rodriguez is trying to get people to read his stuff. I don't know if there is anything to it. I saw it on clutchfans and later on twitter.

Imagine what PT Barnum could've done with Twitter.