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holfresh
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![]() meloanyk wrote:holfresh wrote:meloanyk wrote:holfresh wrote:arkrud wrote:holfresh wrote:nixluva wrote:djsunyc wrote:nixluva wrote:holfresh wrote:Do we need a law and order President when crime is at historic lows???..There was an uptick recently...Will he take credit to keeping crime low??..Propaganda he is peddling...Chicago is an anomaly because of how and where the ghettos were built...It's not only about law enforcement.. Ha..On the contraire, one resents your posting due to lack of facts and sources...If you call actions spurred on the US government, to protect US interest, "politically inspired", so be it...Maybe the Russian official is correct who said the Republican Party trust Putin more than they can trust Democrats...Putin not only will have a mouthpiece in the White House and Congress, but also in the Trump supporters...Interesting...I have always held the premise that Republicans put their Party ahead of the Country. That statement holds true today more than ever... This is where the Republicans have been for a long time... I find it interesting Republicans are willing to cozy up to Putin despite taking part in the Genocide of Aleppo and asking why Obama didn't do anything about it..Any hint of hypocracy there??, Not even a touch??..Assking why we didn't do anything about Crimea and now want to cozy up with the villain himself??..Stupid shet is what I say... The "lecture" to Israel was given by John Kerry, not Joe Biden... ..If you need a link, let me know... In regards to the Crime Bill shoot facts, sources and studies at me instead of lip service..I already know where you Republicans stand on things... http://www.factcheck.org/2016/04/bill-clinton-and-the-1994-crime-bill/ Effect on the Crime Rate Crime did drop in the years after the bill passed, as Clinton said, but he gives too much credit to the crime bill for that. Experts who have studied the impact of the law say forces independent of the law were mostly responsible for the crime drop. A Government Accountability Office report in 2005 estimated that the 1994 crime bill resulted in 88,000 additional police officers between 1994 and 2001, and that the influx of new police officers resulted in “modest” drop in crime. The GAO concluded that between 1993 and 2000 the Community Oriented Policing Services(COPS) funds “contributed to a 1.3 percent decline in the overall crime rate and a 2.5 percent decline in the violent crime rate from the 1993 levels.” Still, the GAO concluded, “Factors other than COPS funds accounted for the majority of the decline in crime during this period.” What were those other factors? Increased employment, better policing methods, an aging of the population, growth in income and inflation, to name a few. More to glance over... |
meloanyk
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![]() holfresh wrote:meloanyk wrote:holfresh wrote:meloanyk wrote:holfresh wrote:arkrud wrote:holfresh wrote:nixluva wrote:djsunyc wrote:nixluva wrote:holfresh wrote:Do we need a law and order President when crime is at historic lows???..There was an uptick recently...Will he take credit to keeping crime low??..Propaganda he is peddling...Chicago is an anomaly because of how and where the ghettos were built...It's not only about law enforcement.. Did you just spend all that time copying and pasting articles to confirm my previous comments above about the crime bill? Appreciate. Can you now google those fbi crime stats you raised and report on those additional 28 categories, make sure to multiple the hard numbers by five to account for differences in population for proper comparison. As Ive stated, progress on several fronts has been slow for black people over the last fifty years and progress over the last eight under President Obama has not been what was hoped for. Achievement gaps have not really narrowed despite many programs and monies thrown at that problem. Still awaiting an opinion on school vouchers vs Title I . As Ive opined from the beginning of this extended thread, early education academic gaps are the crux of the problem and the culture of the black underclass has much to blame. You might want to check on compensation levels of races when educational achievements are comparable. Pubs have always been criticized as being hawks, their sudden portrayal as softies now to fit a narrative is bemusing. Our foreign diplomacy with so many countries has been a utter failure Being dismissive and labeling the few who counter as trump supporters, hateful pubs and Putin besties is rather childish. Putin is hard sss and Russia broke international law annexing Crimea, sanctions by the U.S and NATO were warranted. Research the history and factors that led to the Crimean people overwhelming supporting a referendum to rejoin Russia. Given the same circumstances, same geography, same security interests and no one can say with absolute certainty if our self interests would have led our decision makers to similar action. Poor attempt to deflect from our weakness in Syria. Syrian and Russian actions speak for themselves .Our absence and confusion speaks for itself. Tendency here to pass over subjects that don't lend to the prevailing narrative whether it be black on white crime, black on black crime or our foreign policy miscues. Cmon bro Finally, Ill stand by my contention that the recent sanctions and Israel blast were politically inspired. President Obama overplayed the former in a current attempt to delegitimize Trump. I can disagree with Israeli settlements but also say that you don't pull that stunt in a transition, there was eight years to do that. That was self serving and did nothing to assist future talks That declassified summary was farcical. It's been known that the U.S., Russia and China as well as other actors have engaged in spreading propaganda for years through various mediums. RT news channel , website and twitter account has been out there for years and the intelligence was known for quite some time but played up during the debate and after the result. If anything, it cost Trump votes. Dust off some Chomsky books and see where we meddled as well as how we were involved in influencing numerous elections as was Russia. The number was over 100. You may also recall that China was promoting Clinton in 96 election bringing into question many of the Dem policies that were favorable to them. Please double check my spelling and make sure I dont mix Biden n Kerry. Hope everyone liked the breaks. |
holfresh
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![]() An now another episode of the whiney two year old...
Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: And this is him name(Lady wears Prada movie based on her) dropping late last week...Does he realize he will be President...Clown, Stooge.. Middle American must be proud.. Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: He will go to them??..Is this a NYC society thing??..Anyone knows? |
holfresh
Posts: 38679 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/14/2006 Member: #1081 |
![]() Jared Kushner, a Trump In-Law and Adviser, Chases a Chinese Deal
http://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/07/us/politics/jared-kushner-trump-business.html?_r=0 NO ONE CARES....I KNOW...We only care about "Crooked Hillary".. |
nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
![]() meloanyk wrote:holfresh wrote:meloanyk wrote:holfresh wrote:This is kind of silly that you will actually pretend the articles I posted agree with your point of view..Ok..Not many things surprised me but that did..No more comments on that.. Charter Schools are not the complete answer to Black Education. In theory they could be better but first let's understand that they didn't create the concept of Charter Schools to address the needs of Black Students. As usual i'm gonna have to take you on a History Lesson. American Tax Payer Public Schools were originally started for Black Students. Black schools[edit]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_education_in_the_United_States#Black_schools A History of Private Schools & Race in the American Southhttp://www.southerneducation.org/Our-Strategies/Research-and-Publications/Race-Ethnicity-Landing-Pages/A-History-of-Private-Schools-Race-in-the-American.aspx This move to Charter Schools is really more about Tax Dollars than anything else. Most of the White Students down in the South are in Private Schools but these people still pay Tax Dollars that go to Public Schools that are predominantly Black. One way around this would be a Charter School. You could effectively create a school in a White Neighborhood that was still somewhat segregated by distance like a Private School but paid for by Tax Dollars rather than having to kick out extra money for a Private School. None of this solves the very real problem which is that we want ALL schools in this country to be quality places of Education. Charter schools by their very nature create an unequal education system. Not all Charter Schools are successful. What we need is to not be experimenting with our children but using the best methods of education for ALL of our students. The best schools still often end up being in the more affluent neighborhoods. Even if you put more Charters in Black Neighborhoods that doesn't solve the issue of Bad Schools that are still responsible for most of the children. The answer is to improve the Public School System everywhere. |
djsunyc
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meloanyk
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![]() nixluva wrote:meloanyk wrote:holfresh wrote:meloanyk wrote:holfresh wrote:This is kind of silly that you will actually pretend the articles I posted agree with your point of view..Ok..Not many things surprised me but that did..No more comments on that.. As usual, pasting selected excerpts that offer a historical context, whether true gospel or not, simply serves as a preface not a current solution. As you may know, legislation has been enacted and numerous programs undertaken for decades attempting to improve public schools at great costs without much progress in closing achievement gaps at urban schools. Common Core seems to make sense to me especially for its emphasis on STEM and urbans. Not federally mandated but believe President Obama gives incentives to states to adopt while Jeb was one of the few pubs who supported though he relabels. Our former Newark mayor ,Sen Booker supported charter schools and criticized Common Core though it now seems he shifts positions depending on the political winds. Guess the criticism of CC is it's teach to test, light on humanities and omits religion. Know some local families that have opted out of testing in protest. Love to hear a teacher's perspective on common core, choice and if their unions contribute to stunting progress on some fronts. I ask about school vouchers because there are many conflicting views and stats depending on factors. Many believe that would lift and close gaps as well as save overall public school costs. Research on those claims vary. Trump and Devos are proponents though her appt. appears to have made no one happy. Agenda is a wide roll out, I personally think having choices can benefit some as it did in a Newark charter school using part of Zuckerberg 's donation but be difficult to productively implement on a wide scale. |