arkrud wrote:

holfresh wrote:

arkrud wrote:Just curious if this can be considered a hate crime or just a couple of young people being stupid?
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38514759
This is where the escalation of hate will bring all of us - to the gates of hell.

Of course it's a hate crime...Absolutely..But you shouldn't only care when hate happens to one race...

Absolutely agree... We should care when it happened with any human being regardless of arbitrary group.
Isn't any crime against physical and mental well being of any human being a hate crime?

They make a distinction for a reason! I've been trying to educate you on this for MONTHS!!! The history in this country has been one where hate crimes against ones race or religion were especially egregious and to the point where they needed special attention to try and curtail it.

Surely you understand what I'm talking about since Jews have been victims of hate crimes over the centuries. Here in this country the majority of hate crimes has been historically aimed at Blacks and other minorities.

arkrud wrote:

nixluva wrote:

holfresh wrote:

arkrud wrote:Just curious if this can be considered a hate crime or just a couple of young people being stupid?
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38514759
This is where the escalation of hate will bring all of us - to the gates of hell.

Of course it's a hate crime...Absolutely..But you shouldn't only care when hate happens to one race...

This is the kind of thing that a guy Rush Limbaugh uses to try and make it seem like an equal amount of racial injustice goes on in this country. Just remember that they Burned an entire Black city because of a rumor that a Black man touched a white woman in an Elevator! For most of the history of this country that has been the way things were done.

No one should be attacked simply because of their race or religion but let's not only get outraged when it happens to someone of your own race. IMO Trump inflamed the Racial Tensions in this country with his rhetoric. He was warned to stop but he kept on doing it.

So the thing this... creatures did is Trump fault?
Their attorney probably should use this argument in court.. may very well work.

NO not his fault but Trump raised the tension levels in this country and surely you know damned well how Racist Rhetoric can inspire hate crimes! STOP ACTING LIKE YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS!!!

nixluva wrote:

arkrud wrote:

nixluva wrote:

holfresh wrote:

arkrud wrote:Just curious if this can be considered a hate crime or just a couple of young people being stupid?
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38514759
This is where the escalation of hate will bring all of us - to the gates of hell.

Of course it's a hate crime...Absolutely..But you shouldn't only care when hate happens to one race...

This is the kind of thing that a guy Rush Limbaugh uses to try and make it seem like an equal amount of racial injustice goes on in this country. Just remember that they Burned an entire Black city because of a rumor that a Black man touched a white woman in an Elevator! For most of the history of this country that has been the way things were done.

No one should be attacked simply because of their race or religion but let's not only get outraged when it happens to someone of your own race. IMO Trump inflamed the Racial Tensions in this country with his rhetoric. He was warned to stop but he kept on doing it.

So the thing this... creatures did is Trump fault?
Their attorney probably should use this argument in court.. may very well work.

NO not his fault but Trump raised the tension levels in this country and surely you know damned well how Racist Rhetoric can inspire hate crimes! STOP ACTING LIKE YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS!!!

Trump is one man and no one will care about him unless he will not be elected by 50 million people votes.
This 50 million people are "raising the tension levels in this country". And you should stop acting like you do not understand this.
Trump will go away in 4-8 years but all this people behind him will remain.
So when you speaking about him you are talking about this 50 million people so I would suggest you to be careful with that.
You do not want 50 millions to be put against another 50 millions.
Nothing good will come up from it.

arkrud wrote:

holfresh wrote:

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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/816999062562107392

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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/817004210529116160

The definition of insanity with access to our nuclear codes in 15 days...

Did you get your nuclear bunker and supplies in order?
I simple prepared the white sheet and made the direction to cemetery...

It's funny until someone loses an eye...

holfresh wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

holfresh wrote:

arkrud wrote:Just curious if this can be considered a hate crime or just a couple of young people being stupid?
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38514759
This is where the escalation of hate will bring all of us - to the gates of hell.

Of course it's a hate crime...Absolutely..But you shouldn't only care when hate happens to one race...

4 kids commuting a hate crime will bring us to the depths of hell and should be charged and thrown in jail for their stupid juvenile decisions. But people can create laws which negatively effect millions of people and apparently that won't bring us to the depths of hell. And nobody will be charged.

Yeah..You and I get it, but many are more than willing to turn a blind eye when it doesn't affect their world..

Human nature. The mental capacity most of the people have is limited.
No one can feel the pain of the whole world.
So we should do what we can for those who close to us.
When we fail this we fail the whole world.

arkrud wrote:

nixluva wrote:

arkrud wrote:

nixluva wrote:

holfresh wrote:

arkrud wrote:Just curious if this can be considered a hate crime or just a couple of young people being stupid?
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38514759
This is where the escalation of hate will bring all of us - to the gates of hell.

Of course it's a hate crime...Absolutely..But you shouldn't only care when hate happens to one race...

This is the kind of thing that a guy Rush Limbaugh uses to try and make it seem like an equal amount of racial injustice goes on in this country. Just remember that they Burned an entire Black city because of a rumor that a Black man touched a white woman in an Elevator! For most of the history of this country that has been the way things were done.

No one should be attacked simply because of their race or religion but let's not only get outraged when it happens to someone of your own race. IMO Trump inflamed the Racial Tensions in this country with his rhetoric. He was warned to stop but he kept on doing it.

So the thing this... creatures did is Trump fault?
Their attorney probably should use this argument in court.. may very well work.

NO not his fault but Trump raised the tension levels in this country and surely you know damned well how Racist Rhetoric can inspire hate crimes! STOP ACTING LIKE YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS!!!

Trump is one man and no one will care about him unless he will not be elected by 50 million people votes.
This 50 million people are "raising the tension levels in this country". And you should stop acting like you do not understand this.
Trump will go away in 4-8 years but all this people behind him will remain.
So when you speaking about him you are talking about this 50 million people so I would suggest you to be careful with that.
You do not want 50 millions to be put against another 50 millions.
Nothing good will come up from it.

Please stop talking nonsense! Not every Trump Voter is a racist or has hate for those that voted for someone else in the Election. That's not what this is about.

There are very real Racists and Haters in this country that were EMBOLDENED by Trump's Rhetoric and then there are those on the other side who got amped up to hate back!!! This is the problem when a supposed leader spouts hate.

On the other hand a leader like Martin Luther King taught peace. Imagine if he did not do that? How much worse it could've been if he preached violence and terrorist acts. After all the bad things this country has done to African Americans we did not resort to mass violence or retaliate with terrorist acts which we could have.

holfresh wrote:

arkrud wrote:

holfresh wrote:

arkrud wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/816999062562107392

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/817004210529116160

The definition of insanity with access to our nuclear codes in 15 days...

Did you get your nuclear bunker and supplies in order?
I simple prepared the white sheet and made the direction to cemetery...

It's funny until someone loses an eye...

The truth is we all will be dead one day.
So I would not worry about it.
But while we are there lets enjoy it.
Life is short.

The fact that we all have to die one day doesn't mean that tomorrow is as good as any day...I would have preferred some one with seemingly better judgement in office, if me and my kids future are in the balance...You supported a bigot, some one who has shown hate to many groups but it gave you no pause...Now you are concerned about hate to those "close to you"...Welcome aboard...

I am not supporting Trump but the will of American people who elected him.
I don't care about Trump personality and will judge him by what he will accomplish or will faile to accomplish.
Talk is chip.

meloanyk wrote:See some snowflakes are still melting away while some other forums are celebrating the coming of the new King. A group hug and tug in a safe zone may be in order here to temporarily soothe some fragile psyches. I expect the perimeters of the red and blue spectrum to continue with their respective hysterias until it becomes clear that the reversal in house will not be as bad as many fear or as good as many hope. President Obama's ideals and persona were admirable enough to win my votes but now find myself ambivalent about his Presidency especially his second term. There were certainly some accomplishments such as the ACA but he squandered a great opportunity given eight years to lift the lower and middle classes especially blacks who fell further behind during the slow economic recovery . His foreign policy record was simply abysmal but he did protect our soil. I now forward to him addressing the quagmire in Chicago as sternly as Israel on his way out for I would assume that black lives matter there. Trump is certainly a contrast in personality and ideology . I do trust that there are enough checks and balances in place to circumvent him if needed. His nuttiness however does appears to stir some movement on some pertinent issues though much fine tuning is needed. How bout them Knicks

meloanyk wrote:

holfresh wrote:

meloanyk wrote:See some snowflakes are still melting away while some other forums are celebrating the coming of the new King. A group hug and tug in a safe zone may be in order here to temporarily soothe some fragile psyches. I expect the perimeters of the red and blue spectrum to continue with their respective hysterias until it becomes clear that the reversal in house will not be as bad as many fear or as good as many hope. President Obama's ideals and persona were admirable enough to win my votes but now find myself ambivalent about his Presidency especially his second term. There were certainly some accomplishments such as the ACA but he squandered a great opportunity given eight years to lift the lower and middle classes especially blacks who fell further behind during the slow economic recovery . His foreign policy record was simply abysmal but he did protect our soil. I now forward to him addressing the quagmire in Chicago as sternly as Israel on his way out for I would assume that black lives matter there. Trump is certainly a contrast in personality and ideology . I do trust that there are enough checks and balances in place to circumvent him if needed. His nuttiness however does appears to stir some movement on some pertinent issues though much fine tuning is needed. How bout them Knicks

How does one do that when the Republicans controlled the House in since 2010 and Republicans controlled the Senate in since 2014?..Obama had two years to implement his domestic plans which required legislation, the republicans blocked everything as a strategy...And how do you single out a particular group to help in this society??...Would you considered what he did in terms of getting States to consider offering free community college something that targeted minorities or blacks a good thing, although it couldn't be implemented nationally??..Changing the terms of Pell Grant so more poor and low income people can get into college??? Any love?? How about the attention he brought to the length of minorities being incarcerated?? Any love there??..Arabs now considers Russia the number one super power that against Islam?? Any love there???

Did I say he was a bad President, did I say he had the cooperation of Congress or did I say that blacks as a whole have not experience any economic improvement under his watch? You might want to check your history books. U.S. Legislation has been going on since the late 19th century to attempt to correct injustices. Look at the era of Kennedy and LBJ followed by Nixon, Ford as targeting legislation to help the war on poverty that continues to today.Under President Obama, about the only thing that was increased relative to national trends was the use of food stamps. No improvement in poverty levels, no improvement in income inequality or hs grad rates, no drop off win out of wedlock births, no increase in household worth. Discussing criminal justice reform and improved policing is more than warranted (thank the Crime Bill of 94 to black leaders and the Clintons) but falling back on the default of systematic racism without fully challenging the culture of any underclass as a factor in the cycle of poverty is problematic to ever solving the issue. What has been happening in Chicago is a national disgrace occurring under his nose. I suspect those murder totals will drop under trump though the community will complain about too much or too little police presence because that is what they have domne in the past. On the foreign affair issue scene, his approach of global inclusion has failed miserably. Do you really think that Syrians will look at us more favorably after the line in the sand bs or that his apology tour helped our standing with Muslim countries? Right now Russia, Iran and Turkey are diving up Find Bush put us into that Iraq and Afghanistan quagmire and President Obama has just extended the miscues to Libya, Egypt, Yemen, Mosul. Crimea,Israel , North Korea and other. Meanwhile China, Russia and Iran have all expanded their influence because they saw our hesitancy and failed diplomacies