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CrushAlot
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6/20/2015  11:36 PM
FistOfOakley wrote:the best version of that suns deal i've seen... and really that rumor i don't think has any legs since it originated from a chad ford chat that he didn't really break..

kings get bledsoe
suns get #4
knicks get #6 and #13

That is quite a rumor. I think the Knicks would have to do that.

I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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6/20/2015  11:56 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
FistOfOakley wrote:the best version of that suns deal i've seen... and really that rumor i don't think has any legs since it originated from a chad ford chat that he didn't really break..

kings get bledsoe
suns get #4
knicks get #6 and #13

That is quite a rumor. I think the Knicks would have to do that.

Yeah...this is an intriguing one Jackson would have to do, I would think.

I assume that this kind of thing would only be done if this or that player was available to Phoenix at 4...no?

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6/21/2015  12:01 AM
FistOfOakley wrote:the best version of that suns deal i've seen... and really that rumor i don't think has any legs since it originated from a chad ford chat that he didn't really break..

kings get bledsoe
suns get #4
knicks get #6 and #13

If they want do a straight up deal for Lawson then I doubt they do this unfortunately. This deal would be awesome though.

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6/21/2015  12:20 AM
If your counting the hours, you'll be disappointed. Very few things are worth counting the hours.

1. Sex
2. Vacation to Disney when your a kid
3. Getting married
4. Having a kid

Im sure there are few others, but NBA draft is not on my list.

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6/21/2015  12:40 AM
We could walk out of the draft with Stein and Winslow if that 6 and 13 move happened
Shved
Winslow
Melo
Monroe
Stein
heck, while I am still dreaming we can trade Melo for Love and have
Shved
Winslow
Carroll
Love
Stein
The Future is Bright!
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6/21/2015  12:48 AM
TPercy wrote:We could walk out of the draft with Stein and Winslow if that 6 and 13 move happened
Shved
Winslow
Melo
Monroe
Stein
heck, while I am still dreaming we can trade Melo for Love and have
Shved
Winslow
Carroll
Love
Stein

I'm guessing if that trade were to happen - and I have no idea how real or not it is - the Knicks would take Willie Cauley-Stein 6th and Trey Lyles 13th.

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6/21/2015  12:50 AM
Yeah...I know its Berman, but some interesting stuff here, nonetheless- even worth its own thread...

The OK4/Jeanie Buss/Jackson stuff is interesting- the ultimate inside info, and I've always wondered why we did not ask him in.

The comment that Mudiay would not work out against somebody when we had him in is intriguing, because I had heard that he would work out against Russell, but it would not be worth it to go up against a lower ranked player and look bad.

If Porzingis is at 4, I personally would take him, but if Phil does not want him and really likes Winslow, you have to squeeze Orlando- flip/flop picks and get a pick for next year. I could definitely live with Winslow... I mean the the guy has "Wins" in his name, already.

Not even a peep about Hezonja, which is interesting, to be honest.

If we trade out and get Kaminsky, I'd be very happy...Lyles, not so much based on what I saw of him.


Next Russell Westbrook? Ex-Nets exec: Knicks can’t pass on D’Angelo | New York Post

Former Nets executive Bobby Marks can’t imagine the Lakers and Sixers letting Ohio State point guard D’Angelo Russell slip to fourth in Thursday’s NBA draft.

But if they do, Phil Jackson should want to do a celebratory dance, according to Marks. The Zen Master, whose 15-month stint as Knicks president has been a disappointment, has the draft in Brooklyn to start making amends. Marks worked with the Nets until they let him go last month in a cost-cutting maneuver after a distinguished 20-year stint.

Marks, who is starting to do draft analysis for ESPN, told The Post Russell reminds him of another Russell — as in Westbrook.

“I don’t look at him as a young kid who could take a couple years,’’ Marks said. “Put him on the court right now and let him play. If he fell to 4, you take him, unplug your phone and call it a night.’’

The Knicks are in a precarious predicament after falling to fourth in the lottery, hanging on the Sixers’ unorthodox cravings and unpredictable general manager Sam Hinkie. The Post has reported Hinkie still has Karl-Anthony Towns, Jahlil Okafor and Russell as his top three.

But there has been unusual hype among draft insiders that Hinkie still hasn’t ruled out the Spanish League 7-foot sharpshooter Kristaps Porzingis, who created a new wave of interest after a stirring Las Vegas workout earlier this month. The probability, however, is Porzingis is a smokescreen in case a bidder emerges — such as Orlando at No. 5 — wanting to move up for the skinny Latvian project.

Orlando trading up with Philly to snatch Porzingis also would work out splendidly for Jackson.

“If Okafor goes at 2, which I think he will because I don’t see the Lakers going against the grain for a big, Philly is the wild card in this whole thing on who the Knicks pick,’’ Marks said. “I think D’Angelo’s too good to pass up. He played two positions at Ohio State, they had him off the ball and point guard. In the NCAAs, he handled the ball more. [There are] not that many point guards with that size.’’


According to a source, Jackson always had envisioned either Towns or Okafor becoming Knicks until the ping-pong balls let them down. The big-man starved Knicks are now resigned to likely taking a guard or wingman, or trading down to the teens for extra assets.

Jackson has given up on Okafor at No. 4, according to a source. Jackson rarely talks to other teams (that’s GM Steve Mills’ job) but he does have strong connections to the Lakers with their president Jeanie Buss as his fiancée.

Also, the wife of Knicks assistant coach Kurt Rambis works in the Lakers front office, and coach Derek Fisher is friends with Lakers coach Byron Scott. So the Knicks have a good inkling that Okafor and the Lakers are a likely Hollywood match. (Jackson hasn’t moved to work out Okafor).

If Russell is snatched up by the Sixers and the Knicks stay put, Duke swingman Justise Winslow is a stronger candidate over point guard Emmanuel Mudiay, whom many consider too much of a risk at No. 4 because he didn’t play enough games last season in China.

Marks also said he believes the Chinese Basketball Association is considered an inferior league and in Mudiay’s pre-draft workouts, he didn’t agree to face another player.

Marks also said taking Kentucky defensive big man Willie Cauley-Stein “is a reach at 4. I see him more in the 7-to-9 range.’’

The buzz is strong for Porzingis, who interviewed with the Knicks in Las Vegas, but Jackson probably wants someone ready to contribute sooner than later.

“Porzingis might be the best player in the draft 10 years from now,’’ Marks said. “But do you want to wait 10 years from now to find out? In New York, rebuilding is hard.

“I see Porzingis as a distant 5. But his workout raised his profile because, though he was seen by a lot of GMs, the coaches and many scouts hadn’t seen him,’’ Marks added. “He was playing against air [in Vegas], but his Spanish league is as good as some of the big-time college conferences. He is European, there’s a cultural change when he comes over and do you have the right people to develop him with a support system.”

Trading the pick could work out, Marks said, if the Knicks obtain a solid rotation player or an extra pick and select a much-needed big man along the lines of Wisconsin’s Frank Kaminsky or Kentucky 6-foot-10 outside-shooting threat Trey Lyles.

“They’re very safe with Kaminsky,’’ Marks said. “He can play center if you go small. And with Trey, you’ll need another asset to justify it, but he’s the most underappreciated Kentucky player.’/quote]

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6/21/2015  1:27 AM
CrushAlot wrote:
FistOfOakley wrote:the best version of that suns deal i've seen... and really that rumor i don't think has any legs since it originated from a chad ford chat that he didn't really break..

kings get bledsoe
suns get #4
knicks get #6 and #13

That is quite a rumor. I think the Knicks would have to do that.

I concur.

The Knicks seem to be in love with K.Lyles. Maybe this is their target and feel at 13 it will be a safe to get him?

The 6 pick is interesting..Winslow could be there. Maybe Stein...or maybe they go with one of the Euros?

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6/21/2015  10:35 AM
it is BS that Mills is the one that takes other teams calls, not Phil.
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6/21/2015  11:49 AM
anrst wrote:it is BS that Mills is the one that takes other teams calls, not Phil.

Phil would probably just speak in riddles and they'd hang up on him.

Mills actually does have some respect around the league, supposedly. He was almost named head of the players association.

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6/21/2015  12:00 PM
Truthfully im not sold on phil as GM, however if he wants to go back to coaching the knicks i would be thrilled
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6/21/2015  12:05 PM
anrst wrote:it is BS that Mills is the one that takes other teams calls, not Phil.

Actually no, someone else said a few weeks ago that the dynamic was basically Mills does the leg work, and then Phil speaks with them when it's time to finalise the deal

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6/21/2015  5:31 PM

Wonder if there is any chance that they all worked out at the same time and did some head to head?

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6/21/2015  9:20 PM
Are there anymore workouts scheduled between now and draft that we know of??
Will they keep doing them right up until the draft???
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6/21/2015  9:34 PM
WaltLongmire wrote:

Wonder if there is any chance that they all worked out at the same time and did some head to head?

they did... they basically got put in a film session.. then worked on 2 on 2s... think the film seassions were part of every workout...

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6/21/2015  9:38 PM
Hamo49 wrote:Are there anymore workouts scheduled between now and draft that we know of??
Will they keep doing them right up until the draft???

myles turner supposed to be in sometime this week.. i think that's it as far as new prospects go...

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6/21/2015  10:06 PM
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/238274/Nuggets-Open-To-Deal-With-Picks-No-7-57

Well its official #7 is in play. So based on rumors #7, #11, #16, #24, #27, #28 are all up for grabs

The algorithm gives and the algorithm takes away
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6/21/2015  10:53 PM
wargames wrote:http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/238274/Nuggets-Open-To-Deal-With-Picks-No-7-57

Well its official #7 is in play. So based on rumors #7, #11, #16, #24, #27, #28 are all up for grabs

Add #4.

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6/22/2015  1:27 AM
CrushAlot wrote:
FistOfOakley wrote:the best version of that suns deal i've seen... and really that rumor i don't think has any legs since it originated from a chad ford chat that he didn't really break..

kings get bledsoe
suns get #4
knicks get #6 and #13

That is quite a rumor. I think the Knicks would have to do that.

With #6 and 13 we would be able to select stein and Lyle or Stein and the PG they recently worked out

Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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6/22/2015  2:40 AM
Knicks1969 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
FistOfOakley wrote:the best version of that suns deal i've seen... and really that rumor i don't think has any legs since it originated from a chad ford chat that he didn't really break..

kings get bledsoe
suns get #4
knicks get #6 and #13

That is quite a rumor. I think the Knicks would have to do that.

With #6 and 13 we would be able to select stein and Lyle or Stein and the PG they recently worked out

At 6, either Winslow, WCS, Mario, mudiay or Porzingis will be available, and then at 13 we could take whoever we liked from kaminsky, Lyle, Looney etc. That would be a very nice deal indeed

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