Uptown wrote:F500ONE wrote:Uptown wrote:F500ONE wrote:mreinman wrote:Uptown wrote:F500ONE wrote:Uptown wrote:F500ONE wrote:Pistons vs Hawks is such a great game to watchIt's beautiful basketball on both sides of the ball
I haven't seen any triangle ran from these two teams
First half was brutal...even the commentator was making excuses for the bad play saying 'its an early game.' It's picked up in the second half, though....
Teams had difficulty converting but because
They stayed true to what they do and we're seeing this
When I made the post it was halftime
I watch the game within the game, you should try it sometime
There was zero malice in response, no need to be defensive all the time....As far as watching the game within the game, is funny you mention this because I got one eye on the Hawks and Pistons, and at the same time, I'm watching video on my laptop of a game my school played last year against a team that we play on Thursday. When I'm not teaching, I'm coaching basketball....I don't try it sometime, I do it all the time....I eat, sleep and drink bb...
Hey Uptown,
In high school ball, are they eliminating the long 2's as well or are they too young for that?
Curious what coaches are telling their players.
Great question asked here
I have a better one, do kids actually practice a midrange game
Your team and from your discussion with other highschool coaches in your jusridiction
I'm currently Coaching Girls, both Middle and HS. Used to coach boys,, but I'm still plugged in and watch quite a bit as girls and boys bb coaches are pretty tight and we travel to and from games together. Most of the kids we get in our programs and around the county do not practice the mid range game much at all.
During Summer Training, an emphasis is placed on ball handling, conditioning, screening, passing and 3 point shooting. It's all about dribble-drive for a layup or dribble-drive and kick for a 3. Most coaches have their players work on game-shots, and spread offense's put a heavy emphasis on dunks/layups and 3's. Dude's like Jahlil Okafor are rare, as most bigs on the HS level are working of their face up games and are shooting 3's pretty comfortably. any player that plays in the post is either way bigger than everyone else or are new to the game.
Rick Pitino was the first that I can remember that adapted the philosophy of taking 3's instead of long 2's. I remember as a youngster watching his Providence teams and later at Kentucky when his teams would pull up and shoot 3's on fastbreaks. I used to scream at the TV when his players would pass up lay ups for open 3's. I had no idea that that would be the universally accepted way to play basketball today.
I think it's sad kids don't practice this shot
For many reasons, most uncontested shots come in the midrange game
Most shots contested can be avoided with a 1-2 escape dribble pull up
Most zone defenses can be busted up with a legit midrange scorer outside a dribble penetrator
Having midrange route runners can completely bust open a defense
Even if no shots are derived from this area
Long twos I can see being an issue here and there but once again
Winning coin toss says they are the initial shot open than others[as in naturally generated]
Basically the game has been dumbed down based on metrics and energy conservation
For offensive execution primarily
Couldn't agree with you more. I still teach my players to pump fake, rip, dribble 1-2 times and pull up for the 15-12 footer. Coaches are teaching their players to guard the 3 point line and take the charge in the paint. You would be amazed at how well schooled some of these HS teams are at taking charges. The long two with a foot on the line doesn't make any sense, as you say, but the mid range game still has its place to extent.
I think this is a major reason why Phil won't deviate
From the triangle system, not only because he's had peak success with it
But because he doesn't want to be of the mold copy catting systems
I believe he is a purist by nature, although this age does involve one being
Flexible and adjusting not only to personnel but to the times
As coaching becomes a product of what everyone else is doing[primarily offensively]
It affects how the game is being coached defensively, so if you're coaching a spread
Offense more than likely you're coaching a spread defense[as in how to defend the spread or drive kick etc etc]
The midrange game is not defended heavily because it's a no mans defender land
Maybe kids need to understand the game becomes easier if they practiced the fundamental things more
Like being able to make a 12-18ftr at an elite level
I hate to think we won't see another Reggie Miller-Ray Allen-Rip Hamilton
For another 5-10yrs all because a Harvard grad figures he's
Smarter than the game itself and says metrics > over everything
Instead of cutting corners trying to become elite in just a couple areas
Yes we're always going to have players that excel at maybe a couple things
But the goal is to have as many versatile players on a team as possible
It works the other way[not only shooting] where you have players who are only effective if they have the ball in their hands
Players like Lebron///// Melo and Kyrie[to a lesser extent] really aren't as good as advertised
Because if you take the ball out of their hands what do they do well
