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12/31/2016  12:32 PM
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arkrud wrote:
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arkrud wrote:Dreaded Putin an Endoran left Obama and US international policy in the dust again by taking over control in Syria and brokering case fire with majority of opposition without US.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-38460127
US became a running joke by isolating itself.
We undermine our friends and empower our enemies.
We spend humongous money on the army which cannot assert itself because of political paralysis in White House.
Very sad times for America and lowest point in our embattled foreign policy...

Hahahaha..Meanwhile both of their countries currencies are at historic lows which means they are paying through the teeth for everything in trade and their economies are in the ****ter and the US currency and stock market are at historic highs...Way to have those blinders on...

Think about this..The US spent 5-6 trillion fighting wars in Iraq and Afghanistan over the last 15 years..The Russian economy in terms of GDP is 1.3 trillion ..Obama shaved 700 mil off their economy in sanctions since Ukraine and Crimea, it was 2 trillion, look that up...Think about that for one second..Who is the fool in that picture...Russia can't afford a foreign policy...How much will his country have to pay for helping Syria..They are hurting now I bet...

Obama just announced more sanctions this morning...Let's shave another 300 mil off that economy before he leaves office..Thats POWER..Not posture like Putin and Endorin..

Russian people will suffer for sure. And Turks too.
But no Putin or Endoran. An not people in their close circle.
Russia lost GDP because of oil price collapse not because of US sanctions.
This "sanctions" are against some group of people and corporations around Putin not Russia as a country.
Obama can make sanctions against humanoids from Alfa Centaurus and they will have the same effect as on Russians.
For now he looks like a dude who never left his college campus but think he knows how world works because he read about it in the books.
Typical useless liberal leaving in imaginary world.
That why sharks like Putin and Endoran totally ignoring him and his administration on the way out. Why bother.


Ha..Oil prices for sure have impacted them greatly..Oil, natural gas, machinery and vodka are their lifeline...

Obama read books...haha..Well the US is doing well because of those books..I welcome an administration that read books...I tell my kids
to read books...You are right, why bother...

Plus arkrud is assuming that all Obama is doing is what was announced. We don't know what other things Obama will do. He has A LOT of options that people don't realize. IMO it's not a good idea to screw with a U.S. President that has nothing to lose and his hands on the FULL POWER of our Intelligence and Military organization.

He seems to like strong men macho figures in his life..Maybe Trump will do a bareback horseback riding calendar for 2017...

Trump really put a lot of people on the age of hysteria.
It is mind bugging how one TV personality can create so much fear and anxiety.
It is really age of political midgets created by intellectual dystrophy in US academia and US educational system.


All that happened this election is the same crap that happened when they voted for the last IDIOT to run the country, George Bush! How'd that turn out??? That's why people are up in arms. Did you even pay any attention to the policies that Trump was pushing or that now the Republicans who do everything to hurt the average American and enrich the 1% are now in full power???

This country worked at it's best when the MIDDLE CLASS was doing well and there wasn't such a ridiculous gap between the Executive and Worker. The Republicans ONLY represent Big Business and making sure the 1% get even more money. That's why the 1st thing they always talk about is Tax Cuts. How'd those Bush Tax Cuts work out???

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12/31/2016  6:54 PM
arkrud wrote:
holfresh wrote:
nixluva wrote:
holfresh wrote:
arkrud wrote:
holfresh wrote:
arkrud wrote:Dreaded Putin an Endoran left Obama and US international policy in the dust again by taking over control in Syria and brokering case fire with majority of opposition without US.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-38460127
US became a running joke by isolating itself.
We undermine our friends and empower our enemies.
We spend humongous money on the army which cannot assert itself because of political paralysis in White House.
Very sad times for America and lowest point in our embattled foreign policy...

Hahahaha..Meanwhile both of their countries currencies are at historic lows which means they are paying through the teeth for everything in trade and their economies are in the ****ter and the US currency and stock market are at historic highs...Way to have those blinders on...

Think about this..The US spent 5-6 trillion fighting wars in Iraq and Afghanistan over the last 15 years..The Russian economy in terms of GDP is 1.3 trillion ..Obama shaved 700 mil off their economy in sanctions since Ukraine and Crimea, it was 2 trillion, look that up...Think about that for one second..Who is the fool in that picture...Russia can't afford a foreign policy...How much will his country have to pay for helping Syria..They are hurting now I bet...

Obama just announced more sanctions this morning...Let's shave another 300 mil off that economy before he leaves office..Thats POWER..Not posture like Putin and Endorin..

Russian people will suffer for sure. And Turks too.
But no Putin or Endoran. An not people in their close circle.
Russia lost GDP because of oil price collapse not because of US sanctions.
This "sanctions" are against some group of people and corporations around Putin not Russia as a country.
Obama can make sanctions against humanoids from Alfa Centaurus and they will have the same effect as on Russians.
For now he looks like a dude who never left his college campus but think he knows how world works because he read about it in the books.
Typical useless liberal leaving in imaginary world.
That why sharks like Putin and Endoran totally ignoring him and his administration on the way out. Why bother.


Ha..Oil prices for sure have impacted them greatly..Oil, natural gas, machinery and vodka are their lifeline...

Obama read books...haha..Well the US is doing well because of those books..I welcome an administration that read books...I tell my kids
to read books...You are right, why bother...

Plus arkrud is assuming that all Obama is doing is what was announced. We don't know what other things Obama will do. He has A LOT of options that people don't realize. IMO it's not a good idea to screw with a U.S. President that has nothing to lose and his hands on the FULL POWER of our Intelligence and Military organization.

He seems to like strong men macho figures in his life..Maybe Trump will do a bareback horseback riding calendar for 2017...

Trump really put a lot of people on the age of hysteria.
It is mind bugging how one TV personality can create so much fear and anxiety.
It is really age of political midgets created by intellectual dystrophy in US academia and US educational system.

One of th scary things is that Trump the narcissist is getting ready to be played like a fiddle by Putin..When you mention Putin's name to Trump, he acts like the homecoming queen at a prom being wooed by the All-State Quarterback..

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12/31/2016  9:51 PM
I'm so scared...


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12/31/2016  10:37 PM
holfresh wrote:I'm so scared...

Man I wonder if it's possible to be worse than Bush? Trump scares me cuz he really has that kind of potential. He has no business being in charge of the most powerful country on Earth. The people that voted for him should be ashamed IMO.

Trump proved over and over that he was unfit, unwilling to prepare and lacked the temperament for the most important job in the world. How can you excuse all the LIES. He can't open his mouth without telling multiple lies. How can our children respect such a man?

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1/1/2017  9:05 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/1/2017  9:05 AM
Trump: I 'know things that other people don't know' about hacking..

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/312335-trump-i-know-things-about-hacking-that-other-people-dont


How bad does Putin really have this guy by the gonads???..It's scary to think...

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1/1/2017  11:27 AM
holfresh wrote:Trump: I 'know things that other people don't know' about hacking..

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/312335-trump-i-know-things-about-hacking-that-other-people-dont


How bad does Putin really have this guy by the gonads???..It's scary to think...

Putin OWNS HIS ASS!!! I can't believe I've lived long enough to see our president actually become a pawn of Russia!!! How can Trump voters look themselves in the mirror? For YEARS Trump and some Republicans tried to make us think Obama was some Manchurian Candidate when all along it's Trump!!!
UNBELIEVABLE!!!

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Thx for posting this. Man that was EPIC! LOL 😂

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1/2/2017  10:35 AM
Barack Obama and Me

http://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/02/opinion/barack-obama-and-me.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-left-region&region=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region&_r=0

I first became interested in politics as a middle school student in the late 1990s, when sexual scandal and presidential impeachment dominated national headlines. The opinion leaders of the day seemed to fall into two camps: those who argued that the president’s private life was none of the public’s business, and those who felt the president lied under oath and deserved to face the consequences.

I wasn’t sophisticated enough to have an opinion on that topic, though I watched the impeachment proceedings like an interested spectator at a sporting event. My politics had started to drift to the right of my family, many of them classic blue dog Democrats. Still, I admired President Clinton in a way that happens when someone like you really makes it. He was a poor boy with a vaguely Southern accent, raised by a single mother with a heavy dose of loving grandparents. As my grandmother told me, presidents were almost always rich people, but Bill Clinton was one of us.

Yet it was that very relatability that made Mr. Clinton’s personal failings frightening. The data shows that working-class families like mine face much higher rates of marital strife and domestic instability. Demons like Mr. Clinton’s had haunted my home and family for generations, and at an age when I first began to develop strong feelings about my future, I knew that I wanted to outrun them. I cared little for Mr. Clinton’s elite education, his economic success or even his ascendancy to the most powerful office in the world. I cared that he had managed to build the domestic tranquillity that he lacked as a child. But here, in one sex scandal, he had blown it all up. If a man of his abilities had done this, then what hope was there for me?

I often wonder how many kids look at our current president the way I once looked at President Clinton. Barack Obama was elected during my second year of college, and save for his skin color, he had much in common with Bill Clinton: Despite an unstable life with a single mother, aided by two loving grandparents, he had made in his adulthood a family life that seemed to embody my sense of the American ideal.


I suspected that there were skeletons lurking in his closet, too. Surely this was a man with a secret sex addiction, or at least an alcohol problem. I secretly guessed that before the end of his term, some major personal scandal would reveal his family life to be a sham. I disagreed with many of his positions, so perhaps a dark part of me wanted such a scandal to come out. But it never came. He and his wife treated each other with clear love and respect, and he adored and cared for his children. Whatever scars his childhood left, he refused to let those scars control him.


The president’s example offered something no other public figure could: hope. I wanted so desperately to have what he had — a happy marriage and beautiful, thriving children. But I thought that those things belonged to people unlike me, to those who came from money and intact nuclear families. For the rest of us, past was destiny. Yet here was the president of the United States, a man whose history looked something like mine but whose future contained something I wanted. His life stood in stark contrast to my greatest fear.

Eventually, I achieved something roughly similar to the president’s early, personal accomplishments: a prestigious law degree, a strong professional career and a modicum of fame as a writer. There were many personal heroes in my life: aunts and uncles, a protective sister, a father who re-entered my life at the right time. But I benefited, too, from the example of a man whose public life showed that we need not be defeated by the domestic hardships of youth.

It is one of the great failures of recent political history that the Republican Party was too often unable to disconnect legitimate political disagreements from the fact that the president himself is an admirable man. Part of this opposition comes from this uniquely polarized moment in our politics, part of it comes from Mr. Obama’s leadership style — more disconnected and cerebral than personal and emotive — and part of it (though a smaller amount than many on the left suppose) comes from the color of his skin.

On Jan. 20, the political side of my brain will breathe a sigh of relief at Mr. Obama’s departure. I will hope for better policy from the new administration, a health reform package closer to my ideological preferences, and a new approach to foreign policy.

But the child who so desperately wanted an American dream, with a happy family at its core will feel something different. For at a pivotal time in my life, Barack Obama gave me hope that a boy who grew up like me could still achieve the most important of my dreams. For that, I’ll miss him, and the example he set.

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1/2/2017  11:09 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/2/2017  11:10 AM
Eight Trump nominees aren't handing over information for proper background checks...Republicans in congress are fighting Democrats on information requirements..Nominees don't want to show their business ties...
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1/2/2017  12:52 PM
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I can't believe this CLOWN is going to be President. He talks so much crap every single time he opens his mouth. He knows things other people don't??? He wants the Intelligence Community to be sure??? Cuz you know Weapons Of Mass Destruction!!! Now mind you this buffoon has access to ALL OF THE MOST SENSITIVE INFO whenever he wants it!!! He's talking like he needs some special meeting when we all know that he's been skipping most of the Presidential Briefings!!! He's gotten his voters to think the News and media are untrustworthy and now he's doing the same with our Intelligence Community. This is some DARK SHYTE. This is how Dictators treat the public. You can't trust anyone but me, your dear leader Donald J. Trump!!!

How about this classy gem!

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1/2/2017  3:29 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/2/2017  6:30 PM
This guy just can't stop LYING!!!


Now he just admitted not long ago that he actually DIDN'T think he was gonna win. Now he's talking like he expected it all along. SMDH!

On top of this he keeps talking like he had some kind of landslide win. Give me a break.

2012 Obama defeated Romney, winning both the popular vote and the electoral college, with 332 electoral votes to Romney's 206.

2008 Obama would go on to win a decisive victory over McCain, winning both the popular vote and the electoral college, with 365 electoral votes to McCain's 173; he received the largest percentage of the popular vote for a Democrat since Lyndon B. Johnson in 1964.


This IDIOT thinks that 270 Electoral College plateau is Fabled? LOL 😂 Clown 🤡 doesn't realize it's the minimum and not some high water mark!

The guy just can't help himself.

Man we have no idea what this guy is going to do with the POWER he now has. #LooseCanon

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1/2/2017  10:57 PM
House Republicans voted to gut ethics office which is responsible for investigating Congress...This was abrupt and unexpected..Congress is seeing Trump's appointees aren't disclosing their business ties and they must be saying what about us...It's going to be a free for all in Washington the next 4 years..
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1/3/2017  10:17 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/3/2017  10:22 AM
Drain the swamp...NOT





The Republican Congress is following your lead Donald...Your appointees won't release their business ties...

New narrative, The Swamp Gets More Crowded!!!
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1/3/2017  10:42 AM
holfresh wrote:Drain the swamp...NOT





The Republican Congress is following your lead Donald...Your appointees won't release their business ties...

New narrative, The Swamp Gets More Crowded!!!

Trump Voters screwed us all. Like I've said this is WORSE than Bush!!! People voted against their own best interests. They fell for the Republican Okie Doke!!! They want control so they can get back to fleecing the country. When have the Republicans last done anything that benefitted the American People and not their pockets???

All Trump and the Republicans have shown us so far is the Rules don't apply to them!!! THE SWAMP IS CROWDED!!!

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1/3/2017  11:39 AM
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holfresh wrote:Drain the swamp...NOT





The Republican Congress is following your lead Donald...Your appointees won't release their business ties...

New narrative, The Swamp Gets More Crowded!!!

Trump Voters screwed us all. Like I've said this is WORSE than Bush!!! People voted against their own best interests. They fell for the Republican Okie Doke!!! They want control so they can get back to fleecing the country. When have the Republicans last done anything that benefitted the American People and not their pockets???

All Trump and the Republicans have shown us so far is the Rules don't apply to them!!! THE SWAMP IS CROWDED!!!


It's a bit shocking especially how the behaved with the Clinton Foundation which gave away 90% of the funds coming in...But I knew they weren't really after Hillary because they thought she was "corrupt", what Trump was doing was far more sinister and disturbing...Now look at them defend Putin and mock the thought that Putin interfered with our election...Just goes to prove the vote for Trump was purely tribal and nothing more....
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1/3/2017  12:18 PM
Wall Street Journal Editor Says His Newspaper Won’t Call Donald Trump’s Lies ‘Lies’

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/wall-street-journal-lies-donald-trump_us_586934b8e4b0eb586489df43

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1/3/2017  12:18 PM
Congress called a special meeting and decided to scrap their plan to Gut the Ethics Panel. Dems and Trump embarrassing Congress worked this time but I think it was them just testing how far they could go! Republicans have a HORRIBLE track record of passing their own stuff. This just continues that record.
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