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IrishKnickFan
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12/11/2012  10:22 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/11/2012  10:22 AM
im happy with having felton and kidd but im also glad lin had a big game finally. One reason is that i hate the spurs and another is that when lin is on his A game he is fun to watch
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12/11/2012  10:35 AM
IrishKnickFan wrote:im happy with having felton and kidd but im also glad lin had a big game finally. One reason is that i hate the spurs and another is that when lin is on his A game he is fun to watch

Well said. We are not deficient so we are taking care of our own.

Im able to enjoy Lin and hope he is in the league a long time.

We moved on because the season started. I know I was upset in the off season how things went but we are doing just fine.

As a "somberite" its reasonable to not "Believe" every thing will work out because knicks have not been very good about personel decisiions for a long time and our record stands as the only tangable record to base that opinion on.

The season had to start to move on and now we see whats happening. Lin is a work in progress in a time we needed a team to come together now.

Given the financial consisderations of the CBA and how a contract can effect one team vs. another we did make a proper choice to let him slide.

NO doubt many of us would prefer otherwise but its a new ball game with new rules.

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12/11/2012  10:40 AM
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IrishKnickFan wrote:im happy with having felton and kidd but im also glad lin had a big game finally. One reason is that i hate the spurs and another is that when lin is on his A game he is fun to watch

Well said. We are not deficient so we are taking care of our own.

Im able to enjoy Lin and hope he is in the league a long time.

We moved on because the season started. I know I was upset in the off season how things went but we are doing just fine.

As a "somberite" its reasonable to not "Believe" every thing will work out because knicks have not been very good about personel decisiions for a long time and our record stands as the only tangable record to base that opinion on.

The season had to start to move on and now we see whats happening. Lin is a work in progress in a time we needed a team to come together now.

Given the financial consisderations of the CBA and how a contract can effect one team vs. another we did make a proper choice to let him slide.

NO doubt many of us would prefer otherwise but its a new ball game with new rules.

Good Point. I've noticed lin gets a lot of hate and even Gallo. Just because they're playing for another team doesnt mean that you can't wish them well as long as its not against the knicks of course haha
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12/11/2012  10:42 AM
Nalod wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:im happy with having felton and kidd but im also glad lin had a big game finally. One reason is that i hate the spurs and another is that when lin is on his A game he is fun to watch

Well said. We are not deficient so we are taking care of our own.

Im able to enjoy Lin and hope he is in the league a long time.

We moved on because the season started. I know I was upset in the off season how things went but we are doing just fine.

As a "somberite" its reasonable to not "Believe" every thing will work out because knicks have not been very good about personel decisiions for a long time and our record stands as the only tangable record to base that opinion on.

The season had to start to move on and now we see whats happening. Lin is a work in progress in a time we needed a team to come together now.

Given the financial consisderations of the CBA and how a contract can effect one team vs. another we did make a proper choice to let him slide.

NO doubt many of us would prefer otherwise but its a new ball game with new rules.

Thank the Lord Jesus, one of the Somber Six has seen the light!

Bang for your buck for contention of the core's 3 years, wasn't that hard to understand.

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12/11/2012  10:52 AM
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8734662/jeremy-lin-ryan-anderson-eric-gordon-nba-newly-eligible-trade-candidates

Harden shot 45 percent on about two isolation shots per game last season, ranking among the league's 10 most efficient iso scorers, per Synergy Sports. He's shooting 25 percent this season on twice as many attempts, a good illustration of the difficulties in transitioning to full-time no. 1 option. One play especially irks: Houston will clear one side of the floor for Harden to work in something between an isolation and a post-up. It looks very much like those Miami plays where the Heat clear one side for LeBron. Harden just hasn't been up to the challenge, though you can understand Houston's thinking, with Lin's struggles and the lack of any other creators.
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12/11/2012  10:54 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/11/2012  10:57 AM
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Andrew wrote:Tkf, nykmentality, you guys need to take a break here. Use the ignore feature, whatever it takes, just stop please.

Tkf, i understand you dont particularly like melo, and thats fine, but its not something you need to continually bring up nor should you have to interject everytime someone post something positive. This is a knick forum after all.

about damn time

It essentially amounts to trolling.

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12/11/2012  10:59 AM
IrishKnickFan wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
Nalod wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:im happy with having felton and kidd but im also glad lin had a big game finally. One reason is that i hate the spurs and another is that when lin is on his A game he is fun to watch

Well said. We are not deficient so we are taking care of our own.

Im able to enjoy Lin and hope he is in the league a long time.

We moved on because the season started. I know I was upset in the off season how things went but we are doing just fine.

As a "somberite" its reasonable to not "Believe" every thing will work out because knicks have not been very good about personel decisiions for a long time and our record stands as the only tangable record to base that opinion on.

The season had to start to move on and now we see whats happening. Lin is a work in progress in a time we needed a team to come together now.

Given the financial consisderations of the CBA and how a contract can effect one team vs. another we did make a proper choice to let him slide.

NO doubt many of us would prefer otherwise but its a new ball game with new rules.

Thank the Lord Jesus, one of the Somber Six has seen the light!

Bang for your buck for contention of the core's 3 years, wasn't that hard to understand.

Come on Chuck no need to be a smartass

Give it a break Irish. You sound foolish when you try to be the forum police.

I was giving credit to Nalod. For months, he was clearly on the other side of the fence, lambasting the Knicks and Dolan for not resigning Lin. Saying it was a "mistake" among other things, while many defended the decision due to "common sense".

This is the first time he's acknowledged the Knicks made the correct decision, and I was saluting him.

Let people post Irish. If you don't like what people say, use the ignore feature.

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12/11/2012  10:59 AM
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mrKnickShot wrote:
tkf wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:How can you not like this kid? Very humble and does not throw anybody under the bus. Takes accountability.

IT is pretty simple, from gallo to lin, for some knick fans they must fail in order to validate the knicks moves and direction... it isn't good enough that the knicks are playing well, but these kids must fail.. the problem is they are very talented and have been proving so... I like these kids and I wish them the best, they are both on young rising teams that have the flexibility and picks(thanks to us in part) to build a winner.... Lin is a great kid, smart kid and talented, guys like that usually are successful. I find the contempt for these kids by some around here completely ridiculous and disgusting.. just goes to show the low standards some set..we will welcome low IQ douchebags to the team as long as they wear knick uniforms.. sorry, I just won't sell my soul for that....

Coming from the dopey stance of one who needs to trash the Knicks who are 15-5 in order to validate EX players and EX coaches.

Low standards?

It don't get no lower.

tashing the knicks.. no I am pretty much trashing the donkey who wears the headband..... why do I need to validate ex players I already believe they are good, it is you guys who just can't take the fact I don't like carmelo or the direction this team has taken.... it kills you, which is why you are consistent with the ridiculous remarks and following me around from thread to thread....

You dont like the direction the team has taken? You mean the road that has us with the best record in pur division? And if we keep traveling in the same direction we can end up with one of the top 2 seeds in the east? The highest seed we would have gotten since the 90's. You dont like that direction? Yeah, I see what you mean.....

You are too caught up in how we got here rather than where we are right now.

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12/11/2012  11:01 AM
IrishKnickFan wrote:im happy with having felton and kidd but im also glad lin had a big game finally. One reason is that i hate the spurs and another is that when lin is on his A game he is fun to watch

I'm pleased with Felton too. I suppose when it comes to Lin, I'm not really sure what a team should do with him- he struggled to play with Melo, wasn't great with Amar'e and now isn't playing well with Harden. Yet he excels when playing with scrubs and mediocre players, when he can dominate the ball. So what kind of a team would you build round him? And should he really be the center piece to any team?

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12/11/2012  11:08 AM
smackeddog wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:im happy with having felton and kidd but im also glad lin had a big game finally. One reason is that i hate the spurs and another is that when lin is on his A game he is fun to watch

I'm pleased with Felton too. I suppose when it comes to Lin, I'm not really sure what a team should do with him- he struggled to play with Melo, wasn't great with Amar'e and now isn't playing well with Harden. Yet he excels when playing with scrubs and mediocre players, when he can dominate the ball. So what kind of a team would you build round him? And should he really be the center piece to any team?

It is hard for Lin to play off the ball because he not a great shooter and not a consistent finisher. Harden is actually a great finisher and shooter, overall. However, if you have both, you would prefer Harden dominating the ball rather than Lin since Harden is the better ball handler. That is the way I see it. Lin will get better over time.

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12/11/2012  11:11 AM
Andrew wrote:Tkf, nykmentality, you guys need to take a break here. Use the ignore feature, whatever it takes, just stop please.

Tkf, i understand you dont particularly like melo, and thats fine, but its not something you need to continually bring up nor should you have to interject everytime someone post something positive. This is a knick forum after all.

I agree andrew 100%, it is my fault as well for taking the bait....

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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12/11/2012  11:14 AM
ChuckBuck wrote:
Nalod wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:im happy with having felton and kidd but im also glad lin had a big game finally. One reason is that i hate the spurs and another is that when lin is on his A game he is fun to watch

Well said. We are not deficient so we are taking care of our own.

Im able to enjoy Lin and hope he is in the league a long time.

We moved on because the season started. I know I was upset in the off season how things went but we are doing just fine.

As a "somberite" its reasonable to not "Believe" every thing will work out because knicks have not been very good about personel decisiions for a long time and our record stands as the only tangable record to base that opinion on.

The season had to start to move on and now we see whats happening. Lin is a work in progress in a time we needed a team to come together now.

Given the financial consisderations of the CBA and how a contract can effect one team vs. another we did make a proper choice to let him slide.

NO doubt many of us would prefer otherwise but its a new ball game with new rules.

Thank the Lord Jesus, one of the Somber Six has seen the light!

Bang for your buck for contention of the core's 3 years, wasn't that hard to understand.

I got you and understood.

I pretty much was on board with the financial part from day one and understood the problem his contract would have for us. From a fan standpoint I wanted him here.

Given the crazy amounts of money Dolan has pissed away in so many ways (20mm to ExileBury, 11mm to Anuch, Jerome james, Eddy, Isiah, Penny, Larry) it stands to reason drawing on the line on a positive story seems ironic.

I understand the inherant nature of Lins collapse would make it easier for many to accept. Thats weak in my book and maybe in others as well is the reason we argue him as a valid "Prospect" and understand the reason why Rockets had to overpay. Better a guy like that gets money than a dumbass like Eddy.

20 games does not make up for lost years Dolan took for me.

The journey of the season is the real joy of a championship run. Winning is just the ending event and the moment to celebrate.

I don't know how this all ends this season but the Nalod household takes it one game at a time.

Arguemnt of MVP accolades, COTY or what ever is fine for those who wish to do so. 20 games is about a quarter of the season and its a fair amount of time to take some measure of the current season, but with 75% of the season left to play Im not even going into homeristic extroplation to justify some mental masterbation!

I suppose I am centrist Somberist with some Homercratic values.

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12/11/2012  11:30 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/11/2012  11:31 AM
Nalod wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
Nalod wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:im happy with having felton and kidd but im also glad lin had a big game finally. One reason is that i hate the spurs and another is that when lin is on his A game he is fun to watch

Well said. We are not deficient so we are taking care of our own.

Im able to enjoy Lin and hope he is in the league a long time.

We moved on because the season started. I know I was upset in the off season how things went but we are doing just fine.

As a "somberite" its reasonable to not "Believe" every thing will work out because knicks have not been very good about personel decisiions for a long time and our record stands as the only tangable record to base that opinion on.

The season had to start to move on and now we see whats happening. Lin is a work in progress in a time we needed a team to come together now.

Given the financial consisderations of the CBA and how a contract can effect one team vs. another we did make a proper choice to let him slide.

NO doubt many of us would prefer otherwise but its a new ball game with new rules.

Thank the Lord Jesus, one of the Somber Six has seen the light!

Bang for your buck for contention of the core's 3 years, wasn't that hard to understand.

I got you and understood.

I pretty much was on board with the financial part from day one and understood the problem his contract would have for us. From a fan standpoint I wanted him here.

Given the crazy amounts of money Dolan has pissed away in so many ways (20mm to ExileBury, 11mm to Anuch, Jerome james, Eddy, Isiah, Penny, Larry) it stands to reason drawing on the line on a positive story seems ironic.

I understand the inherant nature of Lins collapse would make it easier for many to accept. Thats weak in my book and maybe in others as well is the reason we argue him as a valid "Prospect" and understand the reason why Rockets had to overpay. Better a guy like that gets money than a dumbass like Eddy.

20 games does not make up for lost years Dolan took for me.

The journey of the season is the real joy of a championship run. Winning is just the ending event and the moment to celebrate.

I don't know how this all ends this season but the Nalod household takes it one game at a time.

Arguemnt of MVP accolades, COTY or what ever is fine for those who wish to do so. 20 games is about a quarter of the season and its a fair amount of time to take some measure of the current season, but with 75% of the season left to play Im not even going into homeristic extroplation to justify some mental masterbation!

I suppose I am centrist Somberist with some Homercratic values.

Fair enough.

Although I seem homeristic on the outside, inside there's always that conditioned realist side of me that says "The other shoe has to drop". 13 years of ineptitude will do that to passionate fans.

That shoe hasn't dropped yet, but like you, am celebrating each victory as they come, and enjoying this ride immensely.

To steal one of your mantras, all that other stuff(Lin contract/Melo MVP/Woodson COTY/Chip or not?) will sort itself in time.

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12/11/2012  11:46 AM
So I take it no one watched the Warriors rousing victory over the Bobcats?

Warriors are actually playing well this season and will be interesting once Bogut comes back. Best of all y'all would not believe how cheap floor seats are where the Warriors play. My dreams of sitting courtside at an NBA game are about to come true in the near future.

This season is going pretty awesome for the Knicks. Felton is having a career year. We put an ol' fashioned ass whoopin on the Heat. Once in the opener and then without Melo.

Somehow not resigning Lin is working out perfectly. And we all get to see if at the end of 3 years an average of $8M per was a bargain, a ripoff or just about right. If you consider what guys like Lowry/Dragic/and Holliday are getting paid along with Lin the fact that we're getting Felton + JR Smith + Rasheed Wallace + Ronnie Brewer for that price combined is pretty sweet.

Let's try to elevate the level of discourse in this byeetch. Please
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12/11/2012  11:47 AM
ChuckBuck wrote:
Nalod wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:im happy with having felton and kidd but im also glad lin had a big game finally. One reason is that i hate the spurs and another is that when lin is on his A game he is fun to watch

Well said. We are not deficient so we are taking care of our own.

Im able to enjoy Lin and hope he is in the league a long time.

We moved on because the season started. I know I was upset in the off season how things went but we are doing just fine.

As a "somberite" its reasonable to not "Believe" every thing will work out because knicks have not been very good about personel decisiions for a long time and our record stands as the only tangable record to base that opinion on.

The season had to start to move on and now we see whats happening. Lin is a work in progress in a time we needed a team to come together now.

Given the financial consisderations of the CBA and how a contract can effect one team vs. another we did make a proper choice to let him slide.

NO doubt many of us would prefer otherwise but its a new ball game with new rules.

Thank the Lord Jesus, one of the Somber Six has seen the light!

Bang for your buck for contention of the core's 3 years, wasn't that hard to understand.

Who are the other members of the somber six? Do they have costumes and special powers?

Let's try to elevate the level of discourse in this byeetch. Please
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12/11/2012  12:16 PM
GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
Nalod wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:im happy with having felton and kidd but im also glad lin had a big game finally. One reason is that i hate the spurs and another is that when lin is on his A game he is fun to watch

Well said. We are not deficient so we are taking care of our own.

Im able to enjoy Lin and hope he is in the league a long time.

We moved on because the season started. I know I was upset in the off season how things went but we are doing just fine.

As a "somberite" its reasonable to not "Believe" every thing will work out because knicks have not been very good about personel decisiions for a long time and our record stands as the only tangable record to base that opinion on.

The season had to start to move on and now we see whats happening. Lin is a work in progress in a time we needed a team to come together now.

Given the financial consisderations of the CBA and how a contract can effect one team vs. another we did make a proper choice to let him slide.

NO doubt many of us would prefer otherwise but its a new ball game with new rules.

Thank the Lord Jesus, one of the Somber Six has seen the light!

Bang for your buck for contention of the core's 3 years, wasn't that hard to understand.

Who are the other members of the somber six? Do they have costumes and special powers?

Special powers include diminishing their own team despite it's winning record, calculating WS and TS% in their head without special calculators. Also AutoFellatio.

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12/11/2012  12:20 PM
ChuckBuck wrote:
Nalod wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:im happy with having felton and kidd but im also glad lin had a big game finally. One reason is that i hate the spurs and another is that when lin is on his A game he is fun to watch

Well said. We are not deficient so we are taking care of our own.

Im able to enjoy Lin and hope he is in the league a long time.

We moved on because the season started. I know I was upset in the off season how things went but we are doing just fine.

As a "somberite" its reasonable to not "Believe" every thing will work out because knicks have not been very good about personel decisiions for a long time and our record stands as the only tangable record to base that opinion on.

The season had to start to move on and now we see whats happening. Lin is a work in progress in a time we needed a team to come together now.

Given the financial consisderations of the CBA and how a contract can effect one team vs. another we did make a proper choice to let him slide.

NO doubt many of us would prefer otherwise but its a new ball game with new rules.

Thank the Lord Jesus, one of the Somber Six has seen the light!

Bang for your buck for contention of the core's 3 years, wasn't that hard to understand.

Nalod has not changed his stance. You must be confusing him with someone else. Happens all the time when labeling others

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12/11/2012  12:22 PM
ChuckBuck wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
Nalod wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:im happy with having felton and kidd but im also glad lin had a big game finally. One reason is that i hate the spurs and another is that when lin is on his A game he is fun to watch

Well said. We are not deficient so we are taking care of our own.

Im able to enjoy Lin and hope he is in the league a long time.

We moved on because the season started. I know I was upset in the off season how things went but we are doing just fine.

As a "somberite" its reasonable to not "Believe" every thing will work out because knicks have not been very good about personel decisiions for a long time and our record stands as the only tangable record to base that opinion on.

The season had to start to move on and now we see whats happening. Lin is a work in progress in a time we needed a team to come together now.

Given the financial consisderations of the CBA and how a contract can effect one team vs. another we did make a proper choice to let him slide.

NO doubt many of us would prefer otherwise but its a new ball game with new rules.

Thank the Lord Jesus, one of the Somber Six has seen the light!

Bang for your buck for contention of the core's 3 years, wasn't that hard to understand.

Come on Chuck no need to be a smartass

Give it a break Irish. You sound foolish when you try to be the forum police.

I was giving credit to Nalod. For months, he was clearly on the other side of the fence, lambasting the Knicks and Dolan for not resigning Lin. Saying it was a "mistake" among other things, while many defended the decision due to "common sense".

This is the first time he's acknowledged the Knicks made the correct decision, and I was saluting him.

Let people post Irish. If you don't like what people say, use the ignore feature.

again you are mistaking Nalod for someone else

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12/11/2012  12:23 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
Nalod wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:im happy with having felton and kidd but im also glad lin had a big game finally. One reason is that i hate the spurs and another is that when lin is on his A game he is fun to watch

Well said. We are not deficient so we are taking care of our own.

Im able to enjoy Lin and hope he is in the league a long time.

We moved on because the season started. I know I was upset in the off season how things went but we are doing just fine.

As a "somberite" its reasonable to not "Believe" every thing will work out because knicks have not been very good about personel decisiions for a long time and our record stands as the only tangable record to base that opinion on.

The season had to start to move on and now we see whats happening. Lin is a work in progress in a time we needed a team to come together now.

Given the financial consisderations of the CBA and how a contract can effect one team vs. another we did make a proper choice to let him slide.

NO doubt many of us would prefer otherwise but its a new ball game with new rules.

Thank the Lord Jesus, one of the Somber Six has seen the light!

Bang for your buck for contention of the core's 3 years, wasn't that hard to understand.

Nalod has not changed his stance. You must be confusing him with someone else. Happens all the time when labeling others

Babysteps Guns babysteps.

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12/11/2012  12:27 PM
ChuckBuck wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
Nalod wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:im happy with having felton and kidd but im also glad lin had a big game finally. One reason is that i hate the spurs and another is that when lin is on his A game he is fun to watch

Well said. We are not deficient so we are taking care of our own.

Im able to enjoy Lin and hope he is in the league a long time.

We moved on because the season started. I know I was upset in the off season how things went but we are doing just fine.

As a "somberite" its reasonable to not "Believe" every thing will work out because knicks have not been very good about personel decisiions for a long time and our record stands as the only tangable record to base that opinion on.

The season had to start to move on and now we see whats happening. Lin is a work in progress in a time we needed a team to come together now.

Given the financial consisderations of the CBA and how a contract can effect one team vs. another we did make a proper choice to let him slide.

NO doubt many of us would prefer otherwise but its a new ball game with new rules.

Thank the Lord Jesus, one of the Somber Six has seen the light!

Bang for your buck for contention of the core's 3 years, wasn't that hard to understand.

Nalod has not changed his stance. You must be confusing him with someone else. Happens all the time when labeling others

Babysteps Guns babysteps.

Chuck what i meant that everyone has a right to their opinion. Now i agree we made the right decision on lin however i have no problem with knick fans being happy for him when he plays well as long as its not against us
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