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6/27/2020  8:21 PM
martin wrote:Did not know this:

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/scientists-just-beginning-to-understand-the-many-health-problems-caused-by-covid-19_n_5ef77886c5b6acab28426268


Scientists Just Beginning To Understand The Many Health Problems Caused By Covid-19

“We thought this was only a respiratory virus. Turns out, it goes after the pancreas. It goes after the heart. It goes after the liver, the brain, the kidney and other organs.
Julie Steenhuysen

CHICAGO (Reuters) - Scientists are only starting to grasp the vast array of health problems caused by the novel coronavirus, some of which may have lingering effects on patients and health systems for years to come, according to doctors and infectious disease experts.

Besides the respiratory issues that leave patients gasping for breath, the virus that causes COVID-19 attacks many organ systems, in some cases causing catastrophic damage.

“We thought this was only a respiratory virus. Turns out, it goes after the pancreas. It goes after the heart. It goes after the liver, the brain, the kidney and other organs. We didn’t appreciate that in the beginning,” said Dr. Eric Topol, a cardiologist and director of the Scripps Research Translational Institute in La Jolla, California.

In addition to respiratory distress, patients with COVID-19 can experience blood clotting disorders that can lead to strokes, and extreme inflammation that attacks multiple organ systems. The virus can also cause neurological complications that range from headache, dizziness and loss of taste or smell to seizures and confusion.

And recovery can be slow, incomplete and costly, with a huge impact on quality of life.

The broad and diverse manifestations of COVID-19 are somewhat unique, said Dr. Sadiya Khan, a cardiologist at Northwestern Medicine in Chicago.

With influenza, people with underlying heart conditions are also at higher risk of complications, Khan said. What is surprising about this virus is the extent of the complications occurring outside the lungs.

Khan believes there will be a huge healthcare expenditure and burden for individuals who have survived COVID-19.


LENGTHY REHAB FOR MANY

Patients who were in the intensive care unit or on a ventilator for weeks will need to spend extensive time in rehab to regain mobility and strength.

“It can take up to seven days for every one day that you’re hospitalized to recover that type of strength,” Khan said. “It’s harder the older you are, and you may never get back to the same level of function.”

While much of the focus has been on the minority of patients who experience severe disease, doctors increasingly are looking to the needs of patients who were not sick enough to require hospitalization, but are still suffering months after first becoming infected.

Studies are just getting underway to understand the long-term effects of infection, Jay Butler, deputy director of infectious diseases at the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, told reporters in a telephone briefing on Thursday.

“We hear anecdotal reports of people who have persistent fatigue, shortness of breath,” Butler said. “How long that will last is hard to say.”

While coronavirus symptoms typically resolve in two or three weeks, an estimated 1 in 10 experience prolonged symptoms, Dr. Helen Salisbury of the University of Oxford wrote in the British Medical Journal on Tuesday.

Salisbury said many of her patients have normal chest X-rays and no sign of inflammation, but they are still not back to normal.

“If you previously ran 5k three times a week and now feel breathless after a single flight of stairs, or if you cough incessantly and are too exhausted to return to work, then the fear that you may never regain your previous health is very real,” she wrote.

Dr. Igor Koralnik, chief of neuro-infectious diseases at Northwestern Medicine, reviewed current scientific literature and found about half of patients hospitalized with COVID-19 had neurological complications, such as dizziness, decreased alertness, difficulty concentrating, disorders of smell and taste, seizures, strokes, weakness and muscle pain.

Koralnik, whose findings were published in the Annals of Neurology, has started an outpatient clinic for COVID-19 patients to study whether these neurological problems are temporary or permanent.

Khan sees parallels with HIV, the virus that causes AIDS. Much of the early focus was on deaths.

“In recent years, we’ve been very focused on the cardiovascular complications of HIV survivorship,” Khan said.

Reporting by Julie Steenhuysen; additional reporting by Caroline Humer and Nancy Lapid in New York; Editing by Bill Berkrot

...Thanks for the constant updates.

martin
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6/27/2020  11:28 PM
I’m re-posting this cause it’s just shocking and will just be a blip cause of everything else that is going on

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6/28/2020  12:15 AM
martin wrote:I’m re-posting this cause it’s just shocking and will just be a blip cause of everything else that is going on

Not for nothing, but my biggest fear is that this administration kmowlingly tries to pass off an ineffective vaccine. I trust nothing that this gov't desseminates.

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6/28/2020  3:49 AM
martin wrote:

Trump is probably mad about Fauci’s recent NPR interview. The interviewer asked him whether Trump was part of the problem due to the fact the Trump doesn’t wear a mask. Dr. Fauci essentially said that he doesn’t want to blame any leader but that he does wear a mask and he wants to set an example for everyone else. I am sure this is what pissed Trump off.

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6/28/2020  10:56 AM
For you restaurant goers:

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6/28/2020  1:31 PM
martin wrote:

I’m getting my teeth taken care of and full physical plus stress test next week. I just know we’re headed to a bad place— so just taking care of what I need to and hopefully hiding out this fall. I thank god my daughter is in austria abd my kid is in upper Maine

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martin
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6/28/2020  1:38 PM
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martin wrote:

I’m getting my teeth taken care of and full physical plus stress test next week. I just know we’re headed to a bad place— so just taking care of what I need to and hopefully hiding out this fall. I thank god my daughter is in austria abd my kid is in upper Maine

Yeah, good idea. Do feel like the NY-NJ-CT and surrounding *may* hold on but who knows.

I just don't know how employment and economics are going to work across the US if kids don't go into school in Sept.

Enjoy this very small reprieve we have now for NY+, feel it may last to Aug but who knows about fall

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6/28/2020  4:02 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/28/2020  4:06 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
martin wrote:

I’m getting my teeth taken care of and full physical plus stress test next week. I just know we’re headed to a bad place— so just taking care of what I need to and hopefully hiding out this fall. I thank god my daughter is in austria abd my kid is in upper Maine

I’m genuinely glad you’re taking this a lot more seriously now, I hope we are all safe and well enough to continue our forum discussions for many years to come!

Smart to get your teeth sorted now. I’m also working under the assumption we’ll be in the midst of a big surge in the next few weeks or months, so am taking the opportunity now to do some prep. Got my entertainment sorted, some supplies of stuff that was hard to get hold of last time, exercise stuff, etc

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Rudy Gobert said that he is still feeling the side effects from COVID-19.

“The taste has returned, but the smell is still not 100%. I can smell the smells, but not from afar. I spoke to specialists, who told me that it could take up to a year," said Gobert in an interview with L'Equipe.

Gobert's positive test on March 11th shut down the NBA season.

Gobert added that he still feels "weird things," though he doesn't necessarily know if they are attributable to the virus.

"I still feel weird things, but I have never been so long in my life without playing a basketball game! I don’t know if that’s the backlash of the virus. ... Today, I wouldn’t say I’m feeling more tired than before. But I had experiences, a month and a half ago, that scared me. I felt like ants in my toes and wondered what it could be. There were quite a few little things like that."

This virus is so weird, scares me the thought of it causing permanent damage even if you have mild symptoms

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6/28/2020  5:05 PM
martin wrote:

Do these brain dead, angry moron’s become enraged when they have to obey traffic lights? Isn’t that an infringement on their freedom? I can’t take this complete and utter stupidity much more

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6/28/2020  10:38 PM
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BRIGGS wrote:
martin wrote:

I’m getting my teeth taken care of and full physical plus stress test next week. I just know we’re headed to a bad place— so just taking care of what I need to and hopefully hiding out this fall. I thank god my daughter is in austria abd my kid is in upper Maine

I’m genuinely glad you’re taking this a lot more seriously now, I hope we are all safe and well enough to continue our forum discussions for many years to come!

Smart to get your teeth sorted now. I’m also working under the assumption we’ll be in the midst of a big surge in the next few weeks or months, so am taking the opportunity now to do some prep. Got my entertainment sorted, some supplies of stuff that was hard to get hold of last time, exercise stuff, etc

Some of these same people who refuse to wear masks are the same people who balk at the idea of people defending their civil rights from police. It's not about rights or the Constitution. It's the inability of some humans to show empathy. Everyone wants to be free, but even freedom has a price

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6/29/2020  6:17 AM
smackeddog wrote:

Awww that is so cute. Maybe it needs to be scratched behind the ears.

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Allanfan20 wrote:
smackeddog wrote:

Awww that is so cute. Maybe it needs to be scratched behind the ears.

Have to admire the patience of people who sit there and let her go through this! I've none for this kind of thing, I'd have to tell them to shut the f*** up and leave before they finished their first sentence!

From a psychology point of view I find it truly bizzare- it's like they're psychotic but they're not actually psychotic, they're just incredibly, incredibly stupid and proud of it, like they're proud of their complete refusal to even mildly reflect on what they're saying or doing- I don't get how you get through life being that much of an idiot- have they been stung by the wallet inspector? Do they click on spam emails promising riches?

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6/29/2020  4:08 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/29/2020  4:09 PM
These people have watched too many movies and they think they're going to get the entire auditorium to stand up and clap for them after their speech. Roll credits.
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