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11/3/2020  10:00 AM
A couple things to note about Kira Lewis:

- He's up to 180 lbs, so 6'3 180 with a 6'6 wingspan is very solid
- He was in the 89th percentile for spot up shooting
- He was 57% from the corners

He's a very, very good fit for what the goals of this coaching staff seem to be
He's a PG that can clearly play on or off the ball
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11/3/2020  1:01 PM
Knixkik wrote:A couple things to note about Kira Lewis:

- He's up to 180 lbs, so 6'3 180 with a 6'6 wingspan is very solid
- He was in the 89th percentile for spot up shooting
- He was 57% from the corners

He's a very, very good fit for what the goals of this coaching staff seem to be
He's a PG that can clearly play on or off the ball

I still like Cole over Kira, but I can see why people are enamored. If you trade for another vet, the pick makes sense. It'll give him more time to develop his body and learn the game. He's weak in the halfcourt and needs time. TBH, I think Hayes and Ball, ifbhe has a massive drop, are the only PGs I'd grab with pick #8.

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BigDaddyG wrote:
Knixkik wrote:A couple things to note about Kira Lewis:

- He's up to 180 lbs, so 6'3 180 with a 6'6 wingspan is very solid
- He was in the 89th percentile for spot up shooting
- He was 57% from the corners

He's a very, very good fit for what the goals of this coaching staff seem to be
He's a PG that can clearly play on or off the ball

I still like Cole over Kira, but I can see why people are enamored. If you trade for another vet, the pick makes sense. It'll give him more time to develop his body and learn the game. He's weak in the halfcourt and needs time. TBH, I think Hayes and Ball, ifbhe has a massive drop, are the only PGs I'd grab with pick #8.

Yeah i don't know if Lewis is the right pick, but for the reason above he makes sense. There are no sure things and no obvious picks, so I tend to prefer prospects with an easy-to-project role in the NBA. As much as I like Maxey and Cole, I tend to wonder about their role in the NBA as a starter. Lewis, Haliburton, Hayes, Vassell, and Nesmith are guys who have easy to define roles with likely upsides as above average starters. Lewis, Haliburton, and Hayes can all be starting PGs who can play on or off the ball. Vassell and Nesmith are easy plug and play 3&D wings. Maxey and Anthony have equal (or even better) upside, but their NBA roles are a big question mark.
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11/3/2020  3:56 PM
Halliburton or Hayes if they're there at #8.
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11/4/2020  9:45 PM
Okoro or bust
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11/5/2020  1:05 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/5/2020  1:06 PM
Okoro reminds me of Jimmy Butler/Caron Butler.

Nesmith reminds me of Cuttino Mobley.

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joec32033 wrote:Okoro reminds me of Jimmy Butler/Caron Butler.

Nesmith reminds me of Cuttino Mobley.


Remember, Cutino had enough ball skills to play spot minutes at PG. Plus, he was a good defender. I'm not sure if he'll get there, but I think Nesmith's ceiling is Buddy Heild.
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Woodard's performance is noteworthy. It doesn't give a complete answer, but it addresses some of the issues regarding his form and ability to maintain accuracy in game speed. I hope he falls to us at 27, but bey would be decent consolation.
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The idea of the knicks trading up in the draft is starting to pick up steam again. News coming out says the FO is reluctant to include RJ and Mitch in the trade talks. I hope it stays that way.

Giving up RJ to get LaMelo or Mitch for Wiseman doesnt change anything for the knick they will still end up with 2 potential cornerstones. They need to add a cornerstone not replace one. Atleast they already know what they have in RJ and Mitch.

Id rather for them to trade down and get extra draft assets. If they move up, just move up to the late teens from the 27th pick and get Maxey.
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11/6/2020  10:14 AM

Thinking back to the 2016 draft when Toronto had the 9 (Poltl) and 27 (Siakam)

Hoping the Knicks are paying as much attention to their 27 slot. Marquese Chriss was the 8 pick that year (which had a lot of duds)

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11/6/2020  1:43 PM
I’ve said it many times, MRobs talent and potential is noteworthy and should not be traded.
But his window of two years on that contract makes this a very valuable asset and if leveraged properly could be a franchise changer as an trade asset.
Either way is a very nice thing. Please its all about what comes back in return. Without that nobody gets excited!
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11/6/2020  11:39 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/6/2020  11:39 PM
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joec32033 wrote:Okoro reminds me of Jimmy Butler/Caron Butler.

Nesmith reminds me of Cuttino Mobley.


Remember, Cutino had enough ball skills to play spot minutes at PG. Plus, he was a good defender. I'm not sure if he'll get there, but I think Nesmith's ceiling is Buddy Heild.

True but I am looking more at just his style. He seems very smooth. Cat was best at the SG/SF spot. I never viewed him as more than an average defender. Maybe Allan Houston is a closer comp but I don't think Nesmith is the pure shooter Allan was.

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BigDaddyG wrote:
martin wrote:


Woodard's performance is noteworthy. It doesn't give a complete answer, but it addresses some of the issues regarding his form and ability to maintain accuracy in game speed. I hope he falls to us at 27, but bey would be decent consolation.

Yes Woodard is intriguing. And I’ll still say Quickley is a great option. He’s clearly one of the best shooters in the draft and with his 6’10 wingspan he should be a solid defender at both guard spots.
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Jimbo5 wrote:The idea of the knicks trading up in the draft is starting to pick up steam again. News coming out says the FO is reluctant to include RJ and Mitch in the trade talks. I hope it stays that way.

Giving up RJ to get LaMelo or Mitch for Wiseman doesnt change anything for the knick they will still end up with 2 potential cornerstones. They need to add a cornerstone not replace one. Atleast they already know what they have in RJ and Mitch.

Id rather for them to trade down and get extra draft assets. If they move up, just move up to the late teens from the 27th pick and get Maxey.

That would be horrific and there’s no one worth trading up for
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martin wrote:

I like him. Kid is tough and reminds me a lil of Pablo Prigiani. Really needs to work on his spot up shooting, but he's a good draft and stash gamble.

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