Let Isiah execute....

C-Illgaukus for MLE
PF-Boozer
SF-Granger
SG-Q
PG-Marbury

bench: Crawford, Ariza, Butler

Oh yeah baby!

Dang, this is a surprising deal... and though it's costing us a 1st round pick (heh, if we want a "weak" 1st rounder, we should give them this year's #30 pick!-- it doesn't get any lower than that), I think this is good return for KT... a swingman of the future. Truth be told, if this trade is for real, it puts priority in getting a big man w/ our #8 pick.

Q-Rich disappeared in the Spurs series (injury aside late in the series)... but overall, he shoots the 3 w/ proficiency and rebounds like a big man (averaged over 6rpg over the past 2 seasons).

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/quentin_richardson/

I always thought we should pursue him instead of Crawford, given that we wanted to install Marbury as our point guard of the present and future.

Posted by BRIGGS:

It's a good trade IF we transform Q from a chucker back to a guy who plays inside more and drives to the basket. We cant have Crawford and Q chucking 17 3s a game. If Q goes back to post ups using his big body, stays more in the mid range /slash game, then we got good value for KT because Q is much younger, athletic with a graet body. We will have to wait on this one, but on balance its a very good deal for the Knicks.

I do have to wonder if Craw is toast?

what makes you guys think the plan isn't to make Crawford the 6th man he was meant to be and draft the best player available which would be Granger or Graham?--assuming we're overlooking Bynum. We can always use the BPA!

the main thing we have to do is reconfigure his game. he shot below 40% the last 3 seasons, he needs to use his body/slashing abilities/rebounding abilities and improve his mid range game. But he has the ability, athletiscm/body to do it.

Posted by gunsnewing:

what makes you guys think the plan isn't to make Crawford the 6th man

I think Craw is gonna be the 6th man. Either that or Craw will be the PG IF they trade Stephon.

the potential is there, and you have to love the body. We could feature him in the high post or top of the key. He's always been more physical on the rebounding end then on the scoring end.

Its got a shot. Its a good trade for Pho, and it there is potential for style of play as well, if we are going uptempo

Posted by Killa4luv:

Posted by technomaster:

Dang, this is a surprising deal... and though it's costing us a 1st round pick (heh, if we want a "weak" 1st rounder, we should give them this year's #30 pick!-- it doesn't get any lower than that),

No way!! The #30 this year is a quality pick, someone will fall and even without that there are quality players at #30.

[quote]I think this is good return for KT... a swingman of the future. Truth be told, if this trade is for real, it puts priority in getting a big man w/ our #8 pick.

It certainly does because although Kurt was no center, he was WAAAAY more center than anyone else we have on our squad.

[quote]Q-Rich disappeared in the Spurs series (injury aside late in the series)... but overall, he shoots the 3 w/ proficiency and rebounds like a big man (averaged over 6rpg over the past 2 seasons).

Yeah he can post and spot up, but he isn't very dynamic off of the dribble. Thats what hurt them about Joe Johnson going down, he can't create like Joe Johnson. In fact no one can except Nash and Joe Johnson, everyone else is dependant upon Nash for their points.

Thats fine! more reson to draft 6-9 Danny Granger at SF! Defense, shot-blocking, scoring, 3's, from anywhere on the floor! but I would not mind if Isiah surprises us all and drafs Bynum. Just don't draft Frye PLEASE!

[Edited by - gunsnewing on 06/23/2005 09:43:36]

its too bad Tim Thomas is such a girl. Even with Frye we could have a very strong bunch of guys starting
Marbury - pitbull
Q- 6'6 235
TT- 6'10 240
MS- 6'8 400
Frye- 6'10

Thats a lot of meat but you have some serious athletes there as well.
bench: Crawford, JYD, Rose, Ariza, Mo

Posted by fishmike:

its too bad Tim Thomas is such a girl. Even with Frye we could have a very strong bunch of guys starting
Marbury - pitbull
Q- 6'6 235
TT- 6'10 240
MS- 6'8 400
Frye- 6'10

Thats a lot of meat but you have some serious athletes there as well.
bench: Crawford, JYD, Rose, Ariza, Mo

and if you go with Granger and improve the frontline by trading TT, Penny or the MLE not only will we be big but we will actually be good!

Posted by MS:

I like this move, because it means that others are coming, and Zeke may really be thinking about moving Marbury, which I like, if you utlize Q in the post more it could be a real asset....

His shot selection wasn't great but thats only because he played in a system that didn't have structure.....

If we can get boozer for an expiring contract I would be very excited. And Q is movable which makes the deal extremely appealing and frees up a slot in the front court.....

Don't waste money on Hunter or a pick on Frye......I still like Granger or Brynum with the pick

We need a pick that could explode down the road not just be a role player

Yeah I think Isiah maybe looking to move Marbury now too and just go young. I think both Herb and Isiah envision Crawford as a pg and not a sg. Funny enough, I don't think Isiah would be able to trade Marbury even if he wanted to. I mean he can find a taker but there is no way he is going to convince his owner that he now wants to trade away the only star player his team has, Dolan getting some nice returns on Marbury despite the bad season.