Posted by TMS:

i love Josh Howard's game...i'd give up Sweetney & the #30 pick for him in a heartbeat, but DAL ain't taking that deal.

i think the only realistic trade proposed so far that benefits both teams is KT, Sweetney & the #30 pick to DAL for Dampier & Daniels...we get back a promising young wing player & Dampier gives us a legit C, albeit w/a horrible contract, but you live with it to clear the glut at PF & clear the way for a more athletic rookie to fill the role so this team can finally RUN for a freakin' change!

If we're giving them Sweetney and taking back Dampier's contract and only getting Daniels back, then there's no way we should have to include a draft pick. I'd rather try to draft a guy like Daniels at #30 and keep Sweetney and forget about Dampier.

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 06/03/2005 16:50:22]

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by TMS:

i love Josh Howard's game...i'd give up Sweetney & the #30 pick for him in a heartbeat, but DAL ain't taking that deal.

i think the only realistic trade proposed so far that benefits both teams is KT, Sweetney & the #30 pick to DAL for Dampier & Daniels...we get back a promising young wing player & Dampier gives us a legit C, albeit w/a horrible contract, but you live with it to clear the glut at PF & clear the way for a more athletic rookie to fill the role so this team can finally RUN for a freakin' change!

If we're giving them Sweetney and taking back Dampier's contract and only getting Daniels back, then there's no way we should have to include a draft pick. I'd rather try to draft a guy like Daniels at #30 and keep Sweetney and forget about Dampier.

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 06/03/2005 16:50:22]

agreed. the Knicks giving up any pick whatsoever is a big NO NO! I don't expect to steal a key piece of their team in Josh but I also don't expect to be completely raped by not only giving up Sweetney but a #30 in a deep draft.

On a side note, why is Josh Howard 25 and only in his 2nd season. What was he doing after college but before the NBA? Or did he just start college 2 years later than most people?

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 06/03/2005 17:46:54]

Posted by Marv:

IMO there is 0% chance of Dallas trading Josh Howard.

Also IMO there is 0% chance of Dampier working out well for this team.

PASS!

but how about Daniels averaging 16pts, 6rebs, 3asts as our best perimeter defender as our starting SG like he did in the playoffs before they traded Jamison for Stackhouse and acquired Terry with Finely already there?

[Edited by - gunsnewing on 06/03/2005 18:40:49]

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by gunsnewing:

Posted by Marv:

IMO there is 0% chance of Dallas trading Josh Howard.

Also IMO there is 0% chance of Dampier working out well for this team.

PASS!

but how about Daniels averaging close to 16pts, 6rebs, 3asts as our best perimeter defender as our starting SG like he did in the playoffs before they traded Jamison for Stackhouse and acquired Terry with Finely already there?

[Edited by - gunsnewing on 06/03/2005 18:40:49]

That's a small sample of games with Daniels. He was mediocre this year. I like him, but not at the cost of six seasons of Dampier.

he was also injured all season and stuck behind Stackhouse, terry, Howard & finley and never got a chance to settle in. I guarantee as the Knicks starting SG he would. It would be great for Marbury

and remember he's only 24. If people can say Crawford is only 25 when I say he shoots 39% and Ariza is the next Scottie Pippen, then why is Daniels averaging close to 16/6/3 on 43% FG with defense so inconceivable?



players do go into the right situation and flourish. Playing next to Marbury would be the right situation!

[Edited by - gunsnewing on 06/03/2005 19:27:27]

Man, Briggs. Look what you started! From a "rumor" to all these posts...

I am all for standing pat and trying to acquire another top 25 pick. I'm tired of us taking other people's disgards. I want us to develop our own identity through the draft and through diligence and patience. I am not for mortaging our future for players with no upside and for the "hopes" that they will fit into our system. I hope that Knick mgmt feels the same way.

Posted by Redsoxrule:

Man, Briggs. Look what you started! From a "rumor" to all these posts...

I am all for standing pat and trying to acquire another top 25 pick. I'm tired of us taking other people's disgards. I want us to develop our own identity through the draft and through diligence and patience. I am not for mortaging our future for players with no upside and for the "hopes" that they will fit into our system. I hope that Knick mgmt feels the same way.

obviously not after the Mo Taylor trade.

Golden State was all to willing to let Dampier go and now Dallas is all to willing to let him go. I think people need to look at Dampier for what he is and not get to high because we are a center starved team. Dampier will do nothing great for the Knicks. He will fold under the pressure of playing in NY like a cheap tent. I know Howard is attractive player and so is Daniels. But I think if given time and minutes Ariza can be as good if not better than both. Its just the Grass right now seems like it is green else where because NYK fans are disgruntled by the young players progress on the team but it is no fault of theirs. Its the stupid rule of playing the Vets that is holding Ariza and Swetney back. Adding Dampier is another quick fix and he is just the type of player the Knicks need to stay away from because he is neither a star or a very good player at that he is very decent and be honest that is always the mistake the Knicks make is get high paid very decent players. Why rpeat the same mistakes over and over. Get a young center/PF Kwame for KT and 30 pick. Draft Frye and now you have a very formidable front line of Ariza, Kwame, frye. Adding Dampier spells Disaster for the Knicks.

[Edited by - Vmart on 06/03/2005 22:09:30]