I still want a Big Dog for TT trade if Philly bites.

Phili has a boatload of players signed forever on a team well below .500 in a terible division. Kevin Ollie, Kenny Thomas, McKie to name a few.

As for Penny/TT they are worth doo-doo right now. Nobody cares as they are on the books for next year. But look at how many teams are close to the cap in the $48-$52mm range.

Here's a PERFECT example. Next year Min is on the books for $46mm, and thats if they just let Spree walk. Thats a useless number. BUT, if TT/Penny were expiring this year you could offer them Penny and Houston's #2 for Wally and Ervin Johnson. Then they go into next season with a higher #1 from tankning and $10-$12mm in capspace to IMMEDIATLY retool the team. Remember, it doesnt have to just be a FA. When you have cap space you can trade a pick for a player and so on, but my guess is Eddie Curry would look pretty good next to KG.

There are so many teams in this situation. It happens EVERY year. Nobody cares about 2006-07 now, but if you can set youself up for a Pho like offseason NOW teams jump on that. The Hawks got NOTHING for Ratliff and Rahim. Every year it happens. Expiring deals rule at the deadline. They are overrated in the offseason.

uh....you've seen Jalen play lately, right? He's either out there gunning or riding the pine sulking. If Toronto could ship him and save $16 million, they'd JUMP at it. This is why I'm so scared.

I mean, Jalen can fill it up, but so can Steph and Jamal. Eventually, we need to get a young, athletic wing player who can defend. I saw this young guy named Ariza somewhere (cant remember when)...he'd be the PERFECT small forward for the Knicks. I wonder if we could trade for him.

NYK needs to keep Tim, Penny, Moochie and Nazr around for the summer where Zeke can make his big move. Lots will change this summer. Curry OR Chandler (but not both) will be available. Stromile Swift will be unrestricted. Dalembert will be in play. Chris Wilcox OR Elton Brand will probably be available. The Knicks can probably make a move at the draft (moving their pick after drafting for another team) plus an expiring deal.

The only way I'd take Jalen is if Toronto threw in a pick OR Donyell for Kurt (donyell is actually a shotblocker).

Posted by gunsnewing:

how about TT + Kurt For Jalen & Donyell? or is IT simple too proud to trade TT? That works moneywise doesn't it?

i don't like that deal because we give up our best rebounder & not getting back a bigman that can solify our weak frontcourt...if we trade KT, it needs to be for a young bigman that has the potential to plug the C/PF position.