DLeethal wrote:Giannis aside, an AD trade might be worth the risk at this point. If you think about it, injuries aside, he is the perfect guy to replace Towns with, to reinforce defense while still bring all star caliber offense.

its interesting but he's just so damn injury prone and it doesn't help our cap at all.

KAT & Brunson, neither defend, but the difference to me is Brunson is at least in the right spots, willing to take charges and makes the right play. He's a high IQ guy who is just limited physically. KAT though is just a really dumb player.

MaTT4281 wrote:What was OG doing? Why are you even attempting the shot?

They had 3 on 1 with Edgecomb as the only defender. Our transition offense is the worst I have seen unless we are shooting a 3 or Hart goes up for the layup. That about filling the lanes? What about passing? Could definitely take a play or two from that Nets team with JKidd. Their transition was a thing of beauty and it's wasn't just Kidd. They had actual plays in transition,unlike us.

OG was brilliant keeping him in check, the putback dunk, and clutch shots down the stretch.
Road win vs a team that is healthy and on the rise if they can keep PG and Joel on the floor.

Good road win!!!!

And yesterday during the game - Kat goes down under the basket writhing around like he fell into a water moccasin den and Hart is standing over him yelling "get up!".

I like this from Hart but it really shows you what a tool Kat is and is probably a window into some of the player frustrations with Kat. Hart's not perfect - he falls asleep on D, makes some bonehead passes but when push comes to shove he's going to compete. Kat on the other hand - will just commit a foul or flail like he's been shot.

Would have some hope for Kat but he's a +10 year vet -- not changing his stripes.

nycericanguy wrote:its kind of ironic, all the flak Thibs got, but Brown right now is down to trusting the same 3 guys off the bench that Thibs did, Mitch, Deuce & Shamet. Basically going with an 8 man rotation of late.

And to put it into perspective at this time of year, Mitch wasn’t available, Shamet just started playing, and Deuce missed 10 games. Their replacements were Sims, Precious, and I can’t think of who got Deuce minutes besides more Payne and more starters.

Big grade at start of training camp.

Last year: 29-16
This year: 28-17

martin wrote:

nycericanguy wrote:its kind of ironic, all the flak Thibs got, but Brown right now is down to trusting the same 3 guys off the bench that Thibs did, Mitch, Deuce & Shamet. Basically going with an 8 man rotation of late.

And to put it into perspective at this time of year, Mitch wasn’t available, Shamet just started playing, and Deuce missed 10 games. Their replacements were Sims, Precious, and I can’t think of who got Deuce minutes besides more Payne and more starters.

Big grade at start of training camp.

Last year: 29-16
This year: 28-17

Thibs wasn't so perfect but it always surprised me that people didn't trust his judgement on players.

All the guys he got flack for, CAM & Obi the most, were EXACTLY what he thought they were. And the youngins he DID trust, IQ, RJ, grimes, Deuce...all panned out and developed well.

and its telling to me that he did trust Kolek a bit last year, even though some think player development is just immediately throwing someone out there 30mpg. I think Kolek will eventually be a really solid piece.

Thibs knows talent and knows who has IT. Hard to think of a player he had that he didn't trust that flourished elsewhere.

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NardDogNation wrote:

DLeethal wrote:Giannis aside, an AD trade might be worth the risk at this point. If you think about it, injuries aside, he is the perfect guy to replace Towns with, to reinforce defense while still bring all star caliber offense.

I am not fan of Street Clothes but I came to the same conclusion. Fortunately, we have enough center depth to accommodate him if/when he inevitably gets injured during the regular season, which mitigate his accompanying risk. We only really need him for a postseason run i.e. 16-28 games MAX. I think he can do that, especially if we're only playing him 22-25 minutes a game.

Both of you think a downgrade to a player who is currently injured, who has averaged about 50 games a year over the past 7 seasons, who has upcoming salary of $58.5m and $62.8m, and who will be 33 in 2 months is something viable?

KAT is struggling. He is playing like ****. But sell low for absolutely lower? Give or take trade details?

I don’t know how else you can look at that swap.

nycericanguy wrote:

martin wrote:

nycericanguy wrote:its kind of ironic, all the flak Thibs got, but Brown right now is down to trusting the same 3 guys off the bench that Thibs did, Mitch, Deuce & Shamet. Basically going with an 8 man rotation of late.

And to put it into perspective at this time of year, Mitch wasn’t available, Shamet just started playing, and Deuce missed 10 games. Their replacements were Sims, Precious, and I can’t think of who got Deuce minutes besides more Payne and more starters.

Big grade at start of training camp.

Last year: 29-16
This year: 28-17

Thibs wasn't so perfect but it always surprised me that people didn't trust his judgement on players.

All the guys he got flack for, CAM & Obi the most, were EXACTLY what he thought they were. And the youngins he DID trust, IQ, RJ, grimes, Deuce...all panned out and developed well.

and its telling to me that he did trust Kolek a bit last year, even though some think player development is just immediately throwing someone out there 30mpg. I think Kolek will eventually be a really solid piece.

Thibs knows talent and knows who has IT. Hard to think of a player he had that he didn't trust that flourished elsewhere.

Thibs has always been pretty spot on with regards to whether guys or good or not. Where I think he was slightly off was with his positional rigidity. I think he could have been more flexible playing IQ with Brunson, Deuce with Brunson, Obi with Randle etc. Obi was the one instance I think he was a little too harsh on him. He should have played more here. He's not a worldbeater but he's a useful talent that helped in areas we lacked like fast breaks and tempo. Also him and Randle actually played well together whenever they got the chance.

nycericanguy wrote:

DLeethal wrote:Giannis aside, an AD trade might be worth the risk at this point. If you think about it, injuries aside, he is the perfect guy to replace Towns with, to reinforce defense while still bring all star caliber offense.

its interesting but he's just so damn injury prone and it doesn't help our cap at all.

Yes but he's one of maybe 2 or 3 guys who can keep our ceiling high enough to win a title this year in a KAT move.