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12/28/2025  1:02 AM
martin wrote:Josh Hart lite. I wanna say he gotta get a jump shot but he was 3-6 from 3

Yep = very much a body/style like Hart Lite.

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12/28/2025  1:04 AM
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So fun to see MO, Tyler, Kevin, Huck getting some important minutes.

McCullough is extra special because he can get to the rim and finish around it - so nice to see him hit some 3s.

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12/28/2025  1:05 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/28/2025  1:07 AM
martin wrote:Ha

Yep. As soon as Dadiet can create and sink a midrange, be POA defender, get timely steals, make transition 3's , own the 3 corner spot like it's his house, make some assists and timely blocks that shift momentum.... Yeah he has lots to go :)

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12/28/2025  1:10 AM
McCullough can move his puppies on D and is strong enough to hold his ground against bigger players.

Mo is just so long - got credit for 2 blocks tonight and pretty sure he got his hand in to knock a dribble free as well.

Body type reminds me of old Blazer Darius Miles.

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12/28/2025  1:13 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/28/2025  1:19 AM
This is what had to happen to make a title run. OKC has this kind of depth. Having the continuity of quality players on the floor while starters rest is key.

There was zero chance we'd ever contend under Thibs. I mean 0%, not 5%, but 0%. His rep was built by grinding his core, like he did with DRose, Noah, Deng, Gibson, but in reality the Bulls had only one run to the ECF and flamed out there like he did here, because he burns guys out and doesn't have depth ready to step in during the playoffs. Thibs has got to be most overrated coach I've seen as a Knicks fan. His defensive rep was built first off of Garnett & Co. and then Noah & crew. And his offensive playbook was non-existent. Brunson balled out because he's Brunson, not because of any switch Thibs flipped. All Brunson did was bail out Thibs from having to come up with any in-game adjustments at all. Guy was a cheerleader, but not much of a coach by the time he got canned.

Rose did the right thing even if he had to go against their past relationship to play the Godfather and cut out Thibs like a bad dream. It was the only choice to be made. Brown is an actual coach who addresses players with real-time adjustments and who actually uses his staff to have a game plan. No coach is perfect and there will be a day I second guess Brown because that's what fans do, but so far Brown is a breath of fresh air. Thibs was truly awful. While someone may disagree, I strongly suggest our record the past two seasons with Thibs was a product of our talent level, not his coaching.

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12/28/2025  1:17 AM
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martin wrote:Josh Hart lite. I wanna say he gotta get a jump shot but he was 3-6 from 3

Yep = very much a body/style like Hart Lite.

when I was watching the game, I thought he might have the same build as Allan Houston

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12/28/2025  2:23 AM
The system that we have with Brown enhances players. Everyone and their mother is developing. Deuce, Bridges,Kolek, Diawara, McCullar. Brunson is having a career year
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12/28/2025  4:31 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/28/2025  4:36 AM
martin wrote:Didn’t even notice Jalen had zero FTs

What man wants " Mini " attached to their name ? Tell em at least,they still can grow a little more. They sell pills and stretch devices to help grow that last inch.

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12/28/2025  6:50 AM
In today's NBA with the aprons it is critically important to develop young guys deep into the bench. All the great organizations do it. The harsh reality is that some of the guys in front of them will not be re-signed and some these young guys will eventually have full time roles. You can't sign everyone anymore due to aprons. Guys like Deuce or Mitch or Clarkson or even Shamet might not be here once some team decides they want to throw some money at them.

That was really the first real look I had at McCullar. A lot of these young guys are destined to be role players and as such, they just look much better playing with legit pros instead of G-League trash.

I have high hopes on Diawara though. He's so raw on offense but he looks to me like he will eventually be knocking down open 3s and finishing better around the basket. His size and feel for the game is really good on the other end already. Actually reminds me a bit of Okongwu, who couldn't shoot a lick coming into the league and was raw on offense in the same way, and has become pretty deadly open 3 point shooter.

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12/28/2025  8:24 AM
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LivingLegend wrote:
martin wrote:Josh Hart lite. I wanna say he gotta get a jump shot but he was 3-6 from 3

Yep = very much a body/style like Hart Lite.

when I was watching the game, I thought he might have the same build as Allan Houston

I think Kevin significantly more sturdy vs Houston and definitely more physical with the ball but who knows.

If only he had Houston’s jump shot.

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12/28/2025  9:25 AM
Good win on the road! After a slow start away from home we're starting to put together some nice wins. And it's always extra nice to win against that bum Trae Young!

This was the Kevin McCuller Jr. game! No disrespect to OG, who won this game for us in the 4th, but KMJ was outstanding! Looked like a mini Josh Hart out there! Love his motor and effort at both ends and he showed he can make a three! Give the front office a ton of credit for taking a chance on him. I know it's just one game and it could be a fluke but I really liked what he did!

Finally we got an officiating crew that gave KAT some damn calls! But also great job by KAT for adjusting and now using that arm on his drives to push off. And he went 17/18 from the line! Great pick and roll game by Kolek and KAT too resulting in dunks.

The Cap made some big shots down the stretch like he always does. He just owns Dyson Daniels!

Hats off to OG! Had that huge And1 on that baseline drive and layup over Okungwu. And he had the critical steals to seal the game. I know he won't make the All-Star team cause he plays with the Cap and KAT but he should be under consideration!

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12/28/2025  9:37 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/28/2025  9:44 AM
BlueKnickers wrote:This is what had to happen to make a title run. OKC has this kind of depth. Having the continuity of quality players on the floor while starters rest is key.

There was zero chance we'd ever contend under Thibs. I mean 0%, not 5%, but 0%. His rep was built by grinding his core, like he did with DRose, Noah, Deng, Gibson, but in reality the Bulls had only one run to the ECF and flamed out there like he did here, because he burns guys out and doesn't have depth ready to step in during the playoffs. Thibs has got to be most overrated coach I've seen as a Knicks fan. His defensive rep was built first off of Garnett & Co. and then Noah & crew. And his offensive playbook was non-existent. Brunson balled out because he's Brunson, not because of any switch Thibs flipped. All Brunson did was bail out Thibs from having to come up with any in-game adjustments at all. Guy was a cheerleader, but not much of a coach by the time he got canned.

Rose did the right thing even if he had to go against their past relationship to play the Godfather and cut out Thibs like a bad dream. It was the only choice to be made. Brown is an actual coach who addresses players with real-time adjustments and who actually uses his staff to have a game plan. No coach is perfect and there will be a day I second guess Brown because that's what fans do, but so far Brown is a breath of fresh air. Thibs was truly awful. While someone may disagree, I strongly suggest our record the past two seasons with Thibs was a product of our talent level, not his coaching.

we were 1 win away (which we completely blew and had won) from the NBA finals with a roster that was brand new and had zero depth under Thibs. And we took down the defending favored champs. That wasn't contending?

the year before, imagine if we had Ihart, Randle, OG, DDV and Brunson healthy, that team wouldn't have contended?

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12/28/2025  10:16 AM
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BlueKnickers wrote:This is what had to happen to make a title run. OKC has this kind of depth. Having the continuity of quality players on the floor while starters rest is key.

There was zero chance we'd ever contend under Thibs. I mean 0%, not 5%, but 0%. His rep was built by grinding his core, like he did with DRose, Noah, Deng, Gibson, but in reality the Bulls had only one run to the ECF and flamed out there like he did here, because he burns guys out and doesn't have depth ready to step in during the playoffs. Thibs has got to be most overrated coach I've seen as a Knicks fan. His defensive rep was built first off of Garnett & Co. and then Noah & crew. And his offensive playbook was non-existent. Brunson balled out because he's Brunson, not because of any switch Thibs flipped. All Brunson did was bail out Thibs from having to come up with any in-game adjustments at all. Guy was a cheerleader, but not much of a coach by the time he got canned.

Rose did the right thing even if he had to go against their past relationship to play the Godfather and cut out Thibs like a bad dream. It was the only choice to be made. Brown is an actual coach who addresses players with real-time adjustments and who actually uses his staff to have a game plan. No coach is perfect and there will be a day I second guess Brown because that's what fans do, but so far Brown is a breath of fresh air. Thibs was truly awful. While someone may disagree, I strongly suggest our record the past two seasons with Thibs was a product of our talent level, not his coaching.

we were 1 win away (which we completely blew and had won) from the NBA finals with a roster that was brand new and had zero depth under Thibs. And we took down the defending favored champs. That wasn't contending?

the year before, imagine if we had Ihart, Randle, OG, DDV and Brunson healthy, that team wouldn't have contended?

This is your reasoning? Logic? What else do you have?


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12/28/2025  10:59 AM
LivingLegend wrote:
martin wrote:Josh Hart lite. I wanna say he gotta get a jump shot but he was 3-6 from 3

Yep = very much a body/style like Hart Lite.

Styles def same. Feel like Hart is more power and explosiveness while McCullar is more slithery. But same outputs

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12/28/2025  11:04 AM
LivingLegend wrote:McCullough can move his puppies on D and is strong enough to hold his ground against bigger players.

Mo is just so long - got credit for 2 blocks tonight and pretty sure he got his hand in to knock a dribble free as well.

Body type reminds me of old Blazer Darius Miles.

I thought MO’s legs looked as long as Trae is tall

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12/28/2025  11:47 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/28/2025  12:01 PM
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BlueKnickers wrote:This is what had to happen to make a title run. OKC has this kind of depth. Having the continuity of quality players on the floor while starters rest is key.

There was zero chance we'd ever contend under Thibs. I mean 0%, not 5%, but 0%. His rep was built by grinding his core, like he did with DRose, Noah, Deng, Gibson, but in reality the Bulls had only one run to the ECF and flamed out there like he did here, because he burns guys out and doesn't have depth ready to step in during the playoffs. Thibs has got to be most overrated coach I've seen as a Knicks fan. His defensive rep was built first off of Garnett & Co. and then Noah & crew. And his offensive playbook was non-existent. Brunson balled out because he's Brunson, not because of any switch Thibs flipped. All Brunson did was bail out Thibs from having to come up with any in-game adjustments at all. Guy was a cheerleader, but not much of a coach by the time he got canned.

Rose did the right thing even if he had to go against their past relationship to play the Godfather and cut out Thibs like a bad dream. It was the only choice to be made. Brown is an actual coach who addresses players with real-time adjustments and who actually uses his staff to have a game plan. No coach is perfect and there will be a day I second guess Brown because that's what fans do, but so far Brown is a breath of fresh air. Thibs was truly awful. While someone may disagree, I strongly suggest our record the past two seasons with Thibs was a product of our talent level, not his coaching.

we were 1 win away (which we completely blew and had won) from the NBA finals with a roster that was brand new and had zero depth under Thibs. And we took down the defending favored champs. That wasn't contending?

the year before, imagine if we had Ihart, Randle, OG, DDV and Brunson healthy, that team wouldn't have contended?

I said our record was a reflection of our talent, not our coaching.

A core of Brunson, KAT, OG, Bridges and Hart should get you to the ECF every year that core is together regardless of who is coaching.

Thibs was such a bungler that when he actually made the rare in-game adjustment some fans would praise him to the moon and say "See, Thibs can make in-game adjustments"

That's how pathetic Thibs was.

Thibs had no bag. He was just lucky that we have the most clutch player in the NBA to hand the ball to at crunchtime. Brunson won the Pistons series by being clutch. Thibs had nothing to do with it. He's just a bystander yelling Go! Whenever the huddle was miked up Thibs could be heard offering no strategy, no adjustments and rarely writing up a play to run out of a time-out. He was merely a figurehead coasting on his reputation, but he was not actively coaching anything during the actual games.

Brunson liked Thibs because (a) he grew up with him and (b) Thibs didn't micro-manage Brunson which was to Brunson's advantage coming from Dallas trying to prove he was that guy. Thibs didn't coach up Brunson. Brunson was leveling himself up all along from childhood to now. Thibs only contribution to Brunson's success was giving him the greenlight to do whatever he wanted.

If you'll recall, Thibs did exactly the same thing with his previous # 1 option, Julius Randle. It didn't matter that Randle went from being a plus defender in the bubble season to a turnstile by those playoffs and all years after that. Thibs did absolutely nothing to adjust Randle's conduct on and off the court. He just kept feeding him the ball regardless of the outcome. Eventually, management got some better players next to Randle and it was those players who started to adjust Randle's game before he got traded, not Thibs.

Thibs was nothing more than a ride his # 1 option guy going all the way back to DRose. Thibs has no bag himself. He just picks his favorites, rides them hard and mothballs everyone else. Kolek had the exact same bag last year he has today. He could have been groomed for last year's playoffs, but every time Kolek had good minutes Thibs would ghost him the following games and not play him. No logic to Thibs. Brown rewards good play with more play like a normal human being would. Thibs was dysfunctional

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12/28/2025  12:07 PM
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BlueKnickers wrote:This is what had to happen to make a title run. OKC has this kind of depth. Having the continuity of quality players on the floor while starters rest is key.

There was zero chance we'd ever contend under Thibs. I mean 0%, not 5%, but 0%. His rep was built by grinding his core, like he did with DRose, Noah, Deng, Gibson, but in reality the Bulls had only one run to the ECF and flamed out there like he did here, because he burns guys out and doesn't have depth ready to step in during the playoffs. Thibs has got to be most overrated coach I've seen as a Knicks fan. His defensive rep was built first off of Garnett & Co. and then Noah & crew. And his offensive playbook was non-existent. Brunson balled out because he's Brunson, not because of any switch Thibs flipped. All Brunson did was bail out Thibs from having to come up with any in-game adjustments at all. Guy was a cheerleader, but not much of a coach by the time he got canned.

Rose did the right thing even if he had to go against their past relationship to play the Godfather and cut out Thibs like a bad dream. It was the only choice to be made. Brown is an actual coach who addresses players with real-time adjustments and who actually uses his staff to have a game plan. No coach is perfect and there will be a day I second guess Brown because that's what fans do, but so far Brown is a breath of fresh air. Thibs was truly awful. While someone may disagree, I strongly suggest our record the past two seasons with Thibs was a product of our talent level, not his coaching.

we were 1 win away (which we completely blew and had won) from the NBA finals with a roster that was brand new and had zero depth under Thibs. And we took down the defending favored champs. That wasn't contending?

the year before, imagine if we had Ihart, Randle, OG, DDV and Brunson healthy, that team wouldn't have contended?

The coach had a major han in us blowing that game....Thibs is a good coach but I always saw him as the bridge coach that would bring us to the door of contention and another coach would have to come in behind him with the keys to get us through the door. Not saying Mike Brown is the Larry Brown to Thibs's Carlise in Detroit, but Brown gives us a better shot than Thibs IMO

If Thibs was still standing on the sidelines, there wouldn't have been a McCullar game tonight. Or the Shamet game, or the Kolek Christmas game...etc

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12/28/2025  12:12 PM
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nycericanguy wrote:
BlueKnickers wrote:This is what had to happen to make a title run. OKC has this kind of depth. Having the continuity of quality players on the floor while starters rest is key.

There was zero chance we'd ever contend under Thibs. I mean 0%, not 5%, but 0%. His rep was built by grinding his core, like he did with DRose, Noah, Deng, Gibson, but in reality the Bulls had only one run to the ECF and flamed out there like he did here, because he burns guys out and doesn't have depth ready to step in during the playoffs. Thibs has got to be most overrated coach I've seen as a Knicks fan. His defensive rep was built first off of Garnett & Co. and then Noah & crew. And his offensive playbook was non-existent. Brunson balled out because he's Brunson, not because of any switch Thibs flipped. All Brunson did was bail out Thibs from having to come up with any in-game adjustments at all. Guy was a cheerleader, but not much of a coach by the time he got canned.

Rose did the right thing even if he had to go against their past relationship to play the Godfather and cut out Thibs like a bad dream. It was the only choice to be made. Brown is an actual coach who addresses players with real-time adjustments and who actually uses his staff to have a game plan. No coach is perfect and there will be a day I second guess Brown because that's what fans do, but so far Brown is a breath of fresh air. Thibs was truly awful. While someone may disagree, I strongly suggest our record the past two seasons with Thibs was a product of our talent level, not his coaching.

we were 1 win away (which we completely blew and had won) from the NBA finals with a roster that was brand new and had zero depth under Thibs. And we took down the defending favored champs. That wasn't contending?

the year before, imagine if we had Ihart, Randle, OG, DDV and Brunson healthy, that team wouldn't have contended?

I said our record was a reflection of our talent, not our coaching.

A core of Brunson, KAT, OG, Bridges and Hart should get you to the ECF every year that core is together regardless of who is coaching.

Thibs was such a bungler that when he actually made the rare in-game adjustment some fans would praise him to the moon and say "See, Thibs can make in-game adjustments"

That's how pathetic Thibs was.

Thibs had no bag. He was just lucky that we have the most clutch player in the NBA to hand the ball to at crunchtime. Brunson won the Pistons series by being clutch. Thibs had nothing to do with it. He's just a bystander yelling Go! Whenever the huddle was miked up Thibs could be heard offering no strategy, no adjustments and rarely writing up a play to run out of a time-out. He was merely a figurehead coasting on his reputation, but he was not actively coaching anything during the actual games.

Brunson liked Thibs because (a) he grew up with him and (b) Thibs didn't micro-manage Brunson which was to Brunson's advantage coming from Dallas trying to prove he was that guy. Thibs didn't coach up Brunson. Brunson was leveling himself up all along from childhood to now. Thibs only contribution to Brunson's success was giving him the greenlight to do whatever he wanted.

If you'll recall, Thibs did exactly the same thing with his previous # 1 option, Julius Randle. It didn't matter that Randle went from being a plus defender in the bubble season to a turnstile by those playoffs and all years after that. Thibs did absolutely nothing to adjust Randle's conduct on and off the court.

Thibs was nothing more than a ride his # 1 option guy going all the way back to DRose. Thibs has no bag himself.

Don’t agree with ant of your above.

Every year Thibs and Knicks well exceeded their early season records.

Before Brunson came to the Knicks, he was a high level backup PG. Similar story either Randle, iHart, Mitch, Josh.

Individuals got better, team got better.

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12/28/2025  12:16 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/28/2025  12:17 PM
Uptown wrote:
nycericanguy wrote:
BlueKnickers wrote:This is what had to happen to make a title run. OKC has this kind of depth. Having the continuity of quality players on the floor while starters rest is key.

There was zero chance we'd ever contend under Thibs. I mean 0%, not 5%, but 0%. His rep was built by grinding his core, like he did with DRose, Noah, Deng, Gibson, but in reality the Bulls had only one run to the ECF and flamed out there like he did here, because he burns guys out and doesn't have depth ready to step in during the playoffs. Thibs has got to be most overrated coach I've seen as a Knicks fan. His defensive rep was built first off of Garnett & Co. and then Noah & crew. And his offensive playbook was non-existent. Brunson balled out because he's Brunson, not because of any switch Thibs flipped. All Brunson did was bail out Thibs from having to come up with any in-game adjustments at all. Guy was a cheerleader, but not much of a coach by the time he got canned.

Rose did the right thing even if he had to go against their past relationship to play the Godfather and cut out Thibs like a bad dream. It was the only choice to be made. Brown is an actual coach who addresses players with real-time adjustments and who actually uses his staff to have a game plan. No coach is perfect and there will be a day I second guess Brown because that's what fans do, but so far Brown is a breath of fresh air. Thibs was truly awful. While someone may disagree, I strongly suggest our record the past two seasons with Thibs was a product of our talent level, not his coaching.

we were 1 win away (which we completely blew and had won) from the NBA finals with a roster that was brand new and had zero depth under Thibs. And we took down the defending favored champs. That wasn't contending?

the year before, imagine if we had Ihart, Randle, OG, DDV and Brunson healthy, that team wouldn't have contended?

The coach had a major han in us blowing that game....Thibs is a good coach but I always saw him as the bridge coach that would bring us to the door of contention and another coach would have to come in behind him with the keys to get us through the door. Not saying Mike Brown is the Larry Brown to Thibs's Carlise in Detroit, but Brown gives us a better shot than Thibs IMO

If Thibs was still standing on the sidelines, there wouldn't have been a McCullar game tonight. Or the Shamet game, or the Kolek Christmas game...etc

You have a short memory. Shamet was very high within the Thibs circle of trust, just got hurt at beginning of season.

You are forgetting the previous timelines and players. Like IQ. Grimes. deuce. iHart who was a near nobody before he underwent a full and complete transformation from backup scrub who didn’t play to a championship level starter.

Lots of guys got plenty of chances.

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