NYStateOfMind wrote:I feel they should have been practicing offensive plays before the last few pre-season games. Like before the pre-season. Looks like a YMCA pick-up offense.

The offense is brutal but this collectively is a team that has stood around playing off Jalen past few years.

The notion of Mikal, OG, Kat putting ball on floor and making good decisions is dangerous at best - throw in guys like Hart and that's a lot of mistakes.

Watching Jalen cross just over 1/2 court against pressure, struggle to hand off ball to Mikal almost on the 1/2 court line and then they turn around and Mikal hands it back to Jalen and still 35 feet out and nothing has happened - CRAZY.

Uptown wrote:I know nobody cares since he is on the floor, but Kat is not 100...looks like he's laboring running ul and down the court...

Probably true. He is annoying, but he is a great offensive player who is clearly out of sync

VDesai wrote:KAT has to win these 2nd unit matchups. It's hard to be losing these games where Brunson is filling it up

Ryan Rollins put up 25 in 26 minutes on near flawless shooting vs Jalen....I really don't care about him filling it up. Guard somebody.

Me personally and also based on M Browns post-game comments- I don’t believe an injury is the issue.

At a minimum he’s sulking about play style and at worst he’s got wind of real trade rumors and is trying to play like ass.

KAT is clearly the scapegoat tonight mostly for his stupid fouls. But his frustration led to chucking.

I’m telling myself they are learning ball movement before they play cohesive and start adding off ball motion and such. Transitioning from a PnR team to a spread offense.

The lapses on defense and the chucking is painful though.

NYStateOfMind wrote:KAT single-handedly losing this game. NON-FACTOR.

He's not mentally tough...can't depend on him in big games. Also as mentioned earlier...can't win without shooters.

LivingLegend wrote:Could Kat purposely be tanking his trade value?

Me personally and also based on M Browns post-game comments- I don’t believe an injury is the issue.

At a minimum he’s sulking about play style and at worst he’s got wind of real trade rumors and is trying to play like ass.

Not a ridiculous assertion

Nalod wrote:We do keep reading KAT "Questionable" given a quad injury.
We can surmise that he is not tanking to be traded or perhaps lost in the process of Browns offnese. He might have mobility issues.
Quetion is should he be playing?
While we might applaud his effort to power thru it, perhaps its detremental to the effort.

Brown & Brunson both made some comments post game that would lead one to believe he is struggling to get Kat to buy into offense.

"I promise you. If we do the things that we're talking about offensively, in terms of our staples, KAT is gonna be more than fine. We gotta play with a little bit of pace. All of us, individually. I've talked to KAT about it".

- Mike Brown

“I talk to [Towns], we talk and it’s a process for all of us,” Brunson said. “There are gonna be times when things aren’t going one of our ways and it’s on us as teammates to have his back. “But at some point, all of us go through a lull in the season. I don’t even want to call it a lull. It’s just we’re still learning and everything is brand new for us. We’re not gonna use that excuse for a long time.

In addition - for what's it worth Big Knick Energy (potential insider info) post on X stating - Mike Brown has a lot of work to do in order to make Karl Towns a happy teammate.

If Brown & or Jalen were worried about a Kat injury they would mention such injury but instead both talking about mental points (BUY IN).

1) if he were injured they would be sitting him
2) there is nothing in this offense that would upset Kat - hell we spent all of last year ignoring him for entire 1st quarters where Brunson got his and basically ignored Kat. Then just playing in the offense Kat put up 25/12 like nothing - if anything this offense plays more to his strengths.

He's sulking and not sure I blame him after big year last year and coming home to NY - then he gets word Knicks almost moved him during summer.

Bucks basically had Josh's guy planted in the paint doubling whomever had the ball.

The 1 sequence where Hart clumsily dribbles ball over 1/2 court with no pressure - gets over 1/2 court fumbles dribble again then while tripping over himself almost passes ball out of bounds only for Jalen to save it. I mean - Josh is another 1 with head up ass right now (don't want to hear about finger because watched him tossing balls into stands last year).

Also Huck has quickly shriveled up into non factor -- no presence on either end and no rim protection - getting token minutes and to the bench. Was expecting him to make an impact a little bit.

Philc1 wrote:

LivingLegend wrote:Could Kat purposely be tanking his trade value?

Me personally and also based on M Browns post-game comments- I don’t believe an injury is the issue.

At a minimum he’s sulking about play style and at worst he’s got wind of real trade rumors and is trying to play like ass.

Not a ridiculous assertion