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Nalod wrote:Remember when OKC went 5-5 in a stretch? OMG, right? Spo on the hot seat?

Now, Im not saying 2-9 after 24-9 start is anything IM thrilled about but does another coach really change things? Or is it about hope transfusion?
Not saying Brown has earned his tenure, but half a season in we dump him?
I know **** ain't right, but we pining our hopes on Sabonis? Dennis Schroeder? to fix it? I know fans are bipolar depending on the swing.
We bought the hype. It stings. We mad. We want something. Anything.

Replacing Brown does not fix anything, because the roster clearly is showing chemistry issues. If it really is one player like KAT then you replace him and see what happens. Swapping coaches first would be a giant blunder.

ramtour420 wrote:Is it too much to ask for out highest paid player to not make stupid fouls and not argue with refs ? That's all we need Towns to improve on. His d is a little better this year,so he is trending the right way there.

And this right here is what separates the really really really good from the elite. The mental side of the game.

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ramtour420 wrote:Is it too much to ask for out highest paid player to not make stupid fouls and not argue with refs ? That's all we need Towns to improve on. His d is a little better this year,so he is trending the right way there.

And this right here is what separates the really really really good from the elite. The mental side of the game.

MJ once said that basketball is 90% mental. I always thought it had to to with confidence when shooting and such. However, I could never properly understand it. But now I totally see it, Towns being a perfect example. All the talent in the world. Maybe the most talented player I have seen play. But mentally a 5th grader ...

And one has think he visits this and works on it? From his perspective if this has been an issue his whole career it will continue as will his critics. I get guys like Big Perk or Shaq on TV has to have a take and "Challage him". Makes for good TV engagement. I have said now a few weeks he looks like Ebiid out there and now putting a hurt on others. HE does get hit a lot and now wants to exact revenge? We used to call that "being tough"? That nobody came up to defend him vs. Draymond a sign? That or nobody wants to **** with him or his mouth? Or a sign they are not all with KAT? To do so also escalates things, creates more tech's and can also take the focus off the game. Dray wants that.

ON a side note Mike Browns hug with Dray reported as bothering some on the knicks seems silly. He was second chair with that team for 6 years and won there. There is a bond. Take a moment to recognize relationships is not a crime. If Guys are bothered by that they "need to do their ****ing jobs!" which is not to be over sensitive to a coach acknowledging a guy he coached for a long time! Brown is not grumpy like Thibs. The same guys that wanted Thibs gone the same as not wanting happy Mike Brown?

I like that Jalen is publically holding the players accountable. They are a veteran group and talented. The Best teams are not usually over coached but are given the latitude to figure it out. Phil Jax not only had talent on Bulls and lakers but alpha's that were drilled and able to adapt to the game and conquer. Thibs was too much a control freak to do that perhaps? Brown I think is trying and this team is not ready to as a group to get that. THis is why another coach might just be a sugar rush short term? Why a MIke Malone wore his ass out in Denver. He is cut like Thibs.

Vs Dallas I was ok with KATs beat down of Powell who put himself in that position to get hit by his defensive posture.

As for KAT, he is an emotional player. He smiles too. He wears his heart on this sleeve. He also wears his whiney side also. If he can find a middle ground that would be best. Maybe he has and this is all we gonna get? I so wanted his homecomiing to be a mutually beneficial and victorious relationship!

MY hope is this teams evolves into a collective that enjoys playing with and for each other. Maybe Brown sees this as part of the process and its up to the players how they come out of it? All the yelling and coaching cannot do this. Jalen seems to suggest its a player thing. Trades unless you blow it up won't do it.

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Nalod wrote:

Panos wrote:You know, when I posted this thread the day the he got hired, I didn't expect people would be discussing it would be in earnest 3 months into the season.

Thats what makes it even better!

I wonder who might be our coach in a couple of weeks. Panos, get crackin’.

Mike Malone? Isaiah Thomas? Ben Stiller?

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Brunson left the court when subbed out at 2:43 mark. I believe I saw clarkson follow him.
What was that about? Frustration about the game? Coach? His teammates?

WTF is happening after a really nice start to the season? If not for that last nights game was the kind of **** that gets coaches fired.
MIke Brown is too nice? I get what Matt Barnes is saying, and I get he might be a great 2nd chair guy but is this all on him? A veteran team walking over its coach? They win the Cup an got fat and sassy? They said they have not done anything but have acted like they did. Not saying I have a clue to what it is. I get Hart was hurt, I get KAT is morphing into a lumbering Embiid (hope not).

Is this a firable offense? Season is now half over and something has to give. Tracy McGrady said "Someone has to go". Did not say who. Player or coach? Knicks were kicking ass mostly feasting on lower rung teams. Getting blown out but Cooper Flag and NBA journeyman at MSG was a really bad look.

This is on Brown, the players, and Leon. Appears its not just one element for blame.

You Bring up some good points.
I mentioned on several Thibs threads and warned those wanting a fast paced, quick shooting offense which puts up a high volume of threes. Many don’t realize that in order for that type of offense to work, you have to make lots of threes. If not, it puts a lot of pressure on your defense via long defensive rebounds and many more possessions per game. Which is what we have seen during this bad stint. We are just not making shots like we did during good run.
This was the reason I did not get those complaining about Thibs. Considering most complaints were about his offense. Ignoring how much better our defense became under Thibs. Something we all wanted for years prior to his arrival.
Think we will get the shooting going again. Hopefully

ramtour420 wrote:Is it too much to ask for out highest paid player to not make stupid fouls and not argue with refs ? That's all we need Towns to improve on. His d is a little better this year,so he is trending the right way there.

I think KAT seeing guys like Harden and LeBron going to the free throw line for defenders breathing on them the wrong way and is like “I’m getting hacked here driving to the basket where is the love?”