VDesai wrote:Towns two turnovers and we leave Beasley in the corner twice.

It wasn’t just Beasley.

First we’d leave THJ wide open at top of key —- he would hesitate but still had Beasley wide open in corner.

I’m mean where are the rotations????

NYStateOfMind wrote:That was a clean pick, horrible call. If you run into KAT its an offensive foul, he gets hacked repeatedly on offense, not enough calls. This is BS at home, no GD respect for NY. Either way, we played terrible for most of the night and that is why you lose.

VDesai wrote:Towns ****ing idiot

Kat won’t get key calls until he stops whining and acting like a complete Diva.

Starting to make me worry - just too casual defensively despite the league high rebounds.

That said our D was atrocious —— game reminded me of Dantoni era where zero stops are gotten

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Sound familiar

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VDesai wrote:Cade also got away with the shove on both plays. They ran the exact same **** twice and we ran the same stupid Scramble drill twice

Yep and no fouls. Think Kat would be whistled on those push offs?

Don’t want to blame refs - WE SUCKED

GustavBahler wrote:Don’t see the same swagger from earlier in the season. Detroit’s 6th man put the game away, we had no answer.

That.... too casual .... when they put their head in it, they beat the team by 30.... other games they are just playing casually ......

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Perfect example of Thibs defense. So scared of the drive you give 2 wide open 3 in 2025. The year where teams are probably the best at shooting them in the history of the game. Sorry but this 90s defense will not work in this new NBA. Teams are too good at hitting open shots now.

That's one way to look at it. The other way is that someone had to rotate to Hardaway, can't leave him open either. In that case we shouldn't have doubled to begin the defensive possession. We gambled on them not being able to pass it out of the double for an easy score, but that's exactly what they did.

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Perfect example of Thibs defense. So scared of the drive you give 2 wide open 3 in 2025. The year where teams are probably the best at shooting them in the history of the game. Sorry but this 90s defense will not work in this new NBA. Teams are too good at hitting open shots now.

Not sure it was“scared of the drive”. Maybe more like scared of man to man.
On both plays the wings (JB) jammed the high elbows with double teams instead of staying back and playing good man to man defense. Which resulted in a swing pass and rotations on defense. Which I have said for a while that KAT and JB are not good at. Maybe Thibs call or guys knowing JB cannot stop Beasley or Cade man to man. Just don’t see why they needed to panic with 46 left and leave the weak side wide open. Especially when it was a hot shooter.

My take this game though was that we missed way too many wide open threes. Especially in key moments . They didn’t. Also, when Pistons went to a zone, we showed once again that we don’t have the passing or strategy to attack it. How do you not put a big man in the middle? KAT is a great passer but they kept him by the three point stripe? Everyone knows passing to the middle is a great way to attack the zone. Instead it was JB high dribble offense? JB -12. Highest on tram I believe and still wants to force drives into a zone. (Which he hit a lot of tough shots) Instead of running an offense to attack it. Smh

Still Pistons have a lot of good young players. CAP of 126 and lots of picks. They just wanted it more last night and hit big shots. We didn’t.
Knicks know that EVERY team is going to want it more when playing in the Mecca. Need to match that energy an effort every night.

Hart over commits on Hardaway. Brunson recovers back to Hardaway so there was no need for Hart to overcommit. Hart should have stunted at Hardaway which would have caused Tim to hesitate and give Brunson time to recover and would have allowed Hart to recover to Beasley to make a much better contest if not stop him from shooting at all. I would much rather live with a Hardaway mid range floater with Brunson on his right hip, rather than a wide open 3 from Beasley.

Knicks played defense in the 2nd quarter last night. McBride was on the floor. He barely saw the floor in the 2nd half. Maybe 2nd game of back to back with his hammy/knee was keeping him off the floor? They had good defensive intensity when the lineup was Payne-McBride-KAT-Hart and i believe Bridges.

Achiuwa has also been pretty bad...not making any impact. Playing too much drop instead of switching? He's a capable defender and we're not seeing it.