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Alpha1971
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11/26/2023  8:54 PM
ToddTT wrote:What a ****ty way to lose that one.
we lost the game in the first quarter
AUTOADVERT
Alpha1971
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11/26/2023  9:03 PM
Clean wrote:We need to get Brunson an actual star to play with or we will waste his prime.

I beg to differ. This desire of the front office to hold all our assets to trade for a hypothetical star who may become available is ridiculous.. team missed opportunities to get players like KP or Jrue to improve the team. And make other smaller other deals to supplement the team and not just sit back comfortably cause " We have our nine guys that Thibs will play "
Alpha1971
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11/26/2023  9:06 PM
franco12 wrote:I did not watch the entire game, and not trying to be a homer, but did the refs in general allow the Knicks to get manhandled and did call any fouls on Phoenix?

No the other team just has mobile, lengthy players who crashed the boards. Our usual big advantage was matched and beaten. What might happen in the playoffs when we face great teams with similar size and versatility.
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11/26/2023  9:16 PM
martin wrote:I haven’t been able to watch all of recent games… RJ not found his groove yet after migraines?

Seems like it. 3 for 11 tonight.

Oh good lord... https://www.youtube.com/shorts/XkmGrX7O0lQ
Alpha1971
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11/26/2023  9:26 PM
ToddTT wrote:This and the Timberwolves game... two bad losses.

This game should not have even been close with them down two super-friends.

I love Mitch, but iHart should not have come out in the 4th quarter.

The Boston losses ? Plus the close game against Miami minus Hiero. How do we look against good teams ??? Anyway we better win the next few games at home before our tough stretch in December
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11/26/2023  9:41 PM
Alpha1971 wrote:Bol Bol on the Suns bench, when he was released and available I hoped we would get em. Why not try to get lightening in a bottle ?? No risk ...While the Suns with a deeper rotation took a shot for the vet min but we take on Windler ..

I thought the same thing. Thought he would be good for defending the Porzinghis of the league and be an X factor.

Bring back dee-fense
Alpha1971
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11/26/2023  9:58 PM
JesseDark wrote:
Alpha1971 wrote:Bol Bol on the Suns bench, when he was released and available I hoped we would get em. Why not try to get lightening in a bottle ?? No risk ...While the Suns with a deeper rotation took a shot for the vet min but we take on Windler ..

I thought the same thing. Thought he would be good for defending the Porzinghis of the league and be an X factor.


There were other players too that could have been gotten for nothing like Garuba just take a flier, no risk but instead we needed to get Ryan A, Windler, or Jeffries.
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11/26/2023  10:06 PM
Free throws and rebounding cost us this game. The missed tech and Robinson's ineptitude at the line come to mind.
Bring back dee-fense
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11/26/2023  10:21 PM
JesseDark wrote:Free throws and rebounding cost us this game. The missed tech and Robinson's ineptitude at the line come to mind.

I don’t understand how some players just can’t put an arc on their shot.

Everyone knows it’s the biggest problem with his shot, including him… but he just keeps throwing it straight at the rim.

It makes zero sense to me.

Also, fire whoever is coaching him.

Oh good lord... https://www.youtube.com/shorts/XkmGrX7O0lQ
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11/26/2023  10:28 PM
Alpha1971 wrote:
ToddTT wrote:What a ****ty way to lose that one.
we lost the game in the first quarter

We cant keep putting out to start 3 scorers and having a shooting guard THAT CANT SHOOT!! Coaches creed "best 5 players start" simple concept.
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11/26/2023  10:35 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/26/2023  10:37 PM
ToddTT wrote:
JesseDark wrote:Free throws and rebounding cost us this game. The missed tech and Robinson's ineptitude at the line come to mind.

I don’t understand how some players just can’t put an arc on their shot.

Everyone knows it’s the biggest problem with his shot, including him… but he just keeps throwing it straight at the rim.

It makes zero sense to me.

Also, fire whoever is coaching him.

Mitch also needs a lighter touch with his FT attempts. Puts the same zip on his free throws as you would an inbound pass. Needs to finesse his shot more.
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11/26/2023  10:46 PM
cooch2584 wrote:
Alpha1971 wrote:
ToddTT wrote:What a ****ty way to lose that one.
we lost the game in the first quarter

We cant keep putting out to start 3 scorers and having a shooting guard THAT CANT SHOOT!! Coaches creed "best 5 players start" simple concept.
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I’m starting to think the best 2 of these 3 should determine mins (IQ, DDV, Grimes) And IQ / DDV both showed they can co-exist with the starting 5. Grimes seems to struggle and could refine his game with that second unit that’s actually fun and free flowing offense. There’s development and there’s winning games.

Grimes not hitting
Hart not shooting

DDV and IQ are splashing

RJ simply does not play well if Randle and JB goes off. Team is built around 3 volume shooters, so I’m not surprised RJ had an off night. They each take turns with that each game.

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11/26/2023  11:48 PM
Alpha1971 wrote:
ToddTT wrote:What a ****ty way to lose that one.
we lost the game in the first quarter

Can't keep expecting to win games falling behind by 15+ ann clawing your way back in. Eventually the odds are gonna even out and the other team is going to start stopping those runs.

~You can't run from who you are.~
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11/27/2023  12:08 AM
Alpha1971 wrote:
Clean wrote:We need to get Brunson an actual star to play with or we will waste his prime.

I beg to differ. This desire of the front office to hold all our assets to trade for a hypothetical star who may become available is ridiculous.. team missed opportunities to get players like KP or Jrue to improve the team. And make other smaller other deals to supplement the team and not just sit back comfortably cause " We have our nine guys that Thibs will play "

KP would have been the perfect Randle replacement.I think the Mavs would have taken Texas All NBA Randle on a KP dump trade if we gave them a pick like the Celtics. Our front office does not realize how much of an anchor he is. People will see his 3rd an forget his first half and lazy/poor defense is the reason why we lost. Booker got hot targetting him in PNR.
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11/27/2023  12:14 AM
martin wrote:

Damn - you pul me into anti-Julius mode with stats like that.

What struck at 1st glance of box was Julius despite having arguably his best offensive stretch of the season was still a -9 and of course the last 3-point dagger was right in his face.

IMO - we lost this game on the glass, on loose balls and just bad defensive decisions (ex J Hart running at Nurkic on 3 point line and leaving N Little wide open - make Nurkic beat you)

Once again we get I think 3 points out of our starting SG and of course the corpse of E Gorman left open and driving by guys 10 years younger goes for 25).

Brunson brilliant, IQ continues to pass up open 3’s, Mitch outplayed for maybe the 3rd or 4th straight game.
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11/27/2023  12:14 AM
Alpha1971 wrote:
martin wrote:

He should have been tested more at the onset of the season. He was recovering from ankle surgery. Not Randle's fault they didn't have a back up to take his place.

To hell with excuses just the facts. LOL
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11/27/2023  12:16 AM
ToddTT wrote:
Alpha1971 wrote:Todd your online stalking JenHill. 😂 Over the years who has been your favorite cheerleader ?

Easy…

Jesus why do all the Knick girls look so hard - compared to Miami, Suns & Charlotte?
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11/27/2023  12:18 AM
Clean wrote:
They runnng the same offense that we ran on the heat rookie. Just put Randle in any action and he is so lazy you will get an open shot.

In Julius’s mind he’s literally too important to defend except for maybe 3-4 possessions a night and meanwhile little Brunson is scrapping all over the joint but for most part game lost on boards, loose balls and rotations.
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11/27/2023  12:19 AM
BigDaddyG wrote:Oh sh!t! That Mitch fall was scary.

Outside of the fall and his FT;s he was mostly invisible— IHart came in and knocks down 4-4
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11/27/2023  12:20 AM
martin wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:Phuck! Donte shoots layups like a phuchin' d!*khead!

Lol

Yeah he’s always double and triple pumping/faking nobody
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